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66 percent of California residents are opposed to single-payer health care.

opposition increased to 75 percent when those polled were told the price tag for the system might be $179 billion annually — which is actually lower than what the new legislative analysis suggests.

And California is a very liberal state last i checked

EDITED to provide link:



The single-payer proposal under consideration in the state Capitol, Senate Bill 562, assumes at least $50 billion in new taxes to fund the healthcare system. Asked about taxes, support drops to 42% of the adults surveyed and 43% of likely voters. While a majority of Democrats in the PPIC poll continued to support the idea if it means more taxes, support drops substantially among unaffiliated "independent" voters.

The survey found:

Eighty-one percent of Californians are satisfied with the timeliness, cost, quality, availability and accessibility of their current health care coverage with 42 percent of respondents saying they are "very satisfied."
A supermajority (66 percent) opposes legislation establishing universal single payer universal health care with 44 percent strongly opposing the legislative proposal.
When learning about the facts about universal single payer health care, different age groups, demographics and ethnic backgrounds all share opposition to a government run system.

Of the minority who favor single payer universal healthcare:

Seventy-five percent become less likely to support it knowing the cost to Californians in new taxes.
Seventy-four percent of California voters are less likely to support knowing it eliminates employer paid health coverage.
Seventy-two percent of those polled become less likely to support knowing it will reduce health care quality and hinder medical advancement.
The Senate Health Committee has approved the measure without specifying where money to fund the program would come from. The state would pay for all residents, and cover doctor visits, hospitalization, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health and nursing home care. The bill would also take the all funding from Medicare and all Medicare Advantage plans.
Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 06:39 PM (46 replies)

Singel Payer a fantasy. Require State tax increases that cant be enforced.#Constitution we love

Ifs a funny world we live in were facts "trump's" rhetoric and purity bills.


Personal Income Tax
History shows that it was the states that introduced personal income tax into America. The first modern personal income tax system was originated in 1911 by the State of Wisconsin.

Today, most of the states require their residents to pay a personal income tax. These states generally use one of two methods to determine income tax. These two methods are the graduated income tax and the flat rate income tax, and both methods first require the taxpayer to figure his or her taxable income

Ever since the beginning of our history, the states have maintained the right to impose taxes. The Federal Government has always recognized this right. When our Constitution was adopted, the Federal Government was granted the authority to impose taxes. The states, however, retained the right to impose any type of tax except those taxes that are clearly forbidden by the United States Constitution and their own state constitution.

Today, the states acquire the necessary revenue to maintain their governments through tax collection, fees, and licenses. The Federal Government also grants money to the 50 states. With the revenue that the states receive from the Federal Government, taxes, licenses, and fees, they provide public services to their citizens. Examples of these public services are public schools, police protection, health and welfare benefits, and the operation of the state government.

Among the common types of taxes that many states impose are personal income tax, corporate income tax, sales tax, and real property tax. Throughout the 1930s and 1940s, personal income tax and sales tax were introduced in many states because additional revenue was needed to finance public services.

Real property tax has, however, a long history. In 1646, the Massachusetts Bay Colony began taxing settlers who owned property. After independence, many states started to tax property. As time passed, local communities took over the power to tax property. Today, property tax is usually paid to a local government, a school district, a county government, or a water district, but not to a state.

Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:55 PM (23 replies)

Disability backlog tops 1 million; thousands die on waitlist


Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:38 PM (2 replies)

Sanders Campaign Manager: THIS Is The Political Revolution. Sounds like purity test for 2020

At the end there, he's basically saying #Bernie2020

Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 05:21 PM (5 replies)

Bernie Sanders Campaign Faced A Fake News Tsunami - now urging Sanders to run in 2020


By late October, Mattes said he’d traced 40 percent of the domain registrations for the fake news sites he saw popping up on pro-Sanders pages back to Eastern Europe. Others appeared to be based in Panama and the U.S., or were untraceable. He wondered, “Am I the only person that sees all this crap floating through these Bernie pages?”

Since the election, the Bernie Sanders Lovers page has shifted to urging the senator to run for president again in 2020. It no longer shares Bients.com stories. Instead, they all come from ThePredicted.com. Both sites were registered by a person name Hysen Alimi in Albania. (Feel free to check out the sites yourself, but Chrome will warn you your connection is “not secure,” so don’t enter any information there.)

Asked what they themselves did, 12 percent of those who voted for Sanders said they went on to volunteer or raise money for Clinton. Only 16 percent of those who voted for Clinton in the primary said they also volunteered for her.

Of course, the propaganda didn’t create the chasm dividing left-wing voters. The belief that the DNC favored Clinton was widely held. Fifty-eight percent of all the survey respondents agreed on that. Among Democrats, the number was 55 percent. In the Midwest, which essentially elected Trump president, 67 percent agreed. Even 62 percent of those who voted for Clinton in the primary said that the DNC favored her.

But the legitimate skepticism opened the door to believing the more demented propaganda. And the more the fake news was passed around, the harder the divisions became. Clinton backers would charge Sanders supporters with being obnoxious, sexist “Bernie bros.” Many of those bros may have been trolls, not real Sanders supporters. Tell that to a Clinton backer, however, and you can be accused of dismissing the hostility they faced.
Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 02:48 PM (22 replies)

You lost with 3,5 Million votes. And now you say our party model is not working. Shame on you

Posted by factfinder_77 | Sun Sep 17, 2017, 02:25 PM (6 replies)

Our toolkit to pressure Senators is back. Target list, phone numbers, graphics. Let's go !

Trumpcare is back, and it’s just as bad—if not worse—than before. Republicans are calling it the “Cassidy-Graham-Heller bill” and trying to pass it by September 30th with only 51 votes. Call and tweet their offices right now to tell them not to repeal the ACA!

Posted by factfinder_77 | Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:37 PM (1 replies)

Is it insulting Bernie when we require him to fight for ACA instead of pushing progressive dreams ?

Posted by factfinder_77 | Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:54 PM (39 replies)

Hillary Clinton blames herself at least 35 times in What Happene


To clear up any doubt, we’ve listed each of those apologies below—perhaps reading them in sequence will quench the thirst for female contrition.

When they said they had no further questions and thanked me, I apologized to them all, saying that I was sorry they’d had to spend so much time on this matter.

I said how sorry I was and that I understood why people were angry.

I then called President Obama. “I’m sorry for letting you down,” I told him.

I regret handing Trump a political gift with my “deplorables” comments. […] I am sorry about that.

I’ve made mistakes, been defensive about them, stubbornly resisted apologizing.

I made a mistake with my emails. I apologized, I explained, I explained, and apologized some more.

I felt absolutely sick about the whole thing. I clarified and apologized and pointed to my detailed plan to invest in coal communities. But the damage was done.

A few weeks after my “gaffe” I went to Appalachia to apologize directly to people I had offended.

I blamed myself. My worst fears about my limitations as a candidate had come true. […] I had been unable to connect with the deep anger so many Americans felt.

It’s fair to say there was a fundamental mismatch between how I approach politics and what a lot of the country wanted to hear in 2016.

It seems as if many Trump voters were actually voting against me more than they were voting for him.

I go back over my shortcomings and the mistakes we made. I take responsibility for all of them. You can blame the data, blame the message, blame anything you want—but I was the candidate. It was my campaign. Those were my decisions.

“Could the campaign have been better?” Christiane Amanpour asked me. “Where was your message? Do you take any personal responsibility?” “I take absolute personal responsibility,” I replied.

I was the candidate, I was the person on the ballot.

Many in the political media don’t want to hear about how these things tipped the election in the final days. They say their beef is that I am not taking responsibility for my mistakes—but I have, and I do again throughout this book.

None of the factors I discussed here lessen the responsibility I feel or the aching sense that I let everyone down.

I have tried to learn from my own mistakes. There are plenty, as you’ll see in this book, and they are mine and mine alone.

Every day that I was candidate for President, I knew that millions of people were counting on me, and I couldn’t bear the idea of letting them down. But I did. I couldn’t get the job done, and I’ll have to live with that for the rest of my life.

At every step, I felt that I had let everyone down.

I felt like I had been fighting for her and millions like her my entire career. And I had let them down.

I run through the tape over and over, identifying every mistake—especially those made by me.

That was a mistake […] I shouldn’t have assumed it would be OK for me to do it. Especially after the financial crisis of 2008-2009 I should have realized it would be bad “optics” and stayed away from it. I didn’t. That’s on me.

This is one of the mistakes I made you’ll read about in this book. I have tried to give an honest accounting of when I got it wrong, where I fell short, and what I wish I could go back and do differently. […] My mistakes burn me up inside.

It was a mistake to have a personal account. I would certainly not do it again. I make no excuse for it.

Another example where I remained polite, albeit exasperated, and played the political game as it used to be, not as it had become. That was a mistake.

During the campaign, I tried endlessly to explain that I’d acted in good faith. I tried to apologize […] No matter what, I never found the right words. So let me try again: It was a dumb mistake.

Given my inability to explain this mess, I decided to let other voices tell the story this time.

I listened carefully, determined that if I did jump in the race, I would have to avoid the mistakes that had dogged me the last time.

In the end, we decided it would be better to just let it go and try to move on. Looking back, that was a mistake.

Sometimes it just comes out wrong. It wasn’t the first time that happened during the 2016 election, and it wouldn’t be the last. But it is the one I regret the most.

Or maybe I was the wrong messenger.
“Well, Dad, what if I lose an election I should have won and let an unqualified bully become President of the United States?”

I should have seen that coming.

He told me he had followed his doctor’s orders and stayed home for a week. Looking back, I should have done the same.
Now I wish I had pushed back hard.

Right there and then, I should have known there would never be some magical words to prove how silly it was and make it go away.
Slowly working through why I lost, what could I have done better.

I wish more than anything that I could have done a better job speaking to their fears and frustration. […] I wish I could have found the words or emotional connection.
Posted by factfinder_77 | Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:02 PM (14 replies)
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