Democratic Primaries

ancianita

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48. He, in fact, influenced the party platform last time. That's "this movie" we've seen before.

Reply to Maru Kitteh (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:36 PM

Apr 2020

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You see the movie you want to see. That's not the movie now.

So we disagree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Sanders just said he'll stay on the ballot, continue gaining delegates to give him as much leverage [View all] highplainsdem Apr 2020 OP

Jesus. dhol82 Apr 2020 #1

Oh, FFS. What leverage? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2

"Establishment Democrats" must surrender or else. oasis Apr 2020 #14

The DNC needs to kick his butt off these ballots. I'm so tired of their ineptitude when it comes to onetexan Apr 2020 #24

The States control their ballots. MineralMan Apr 2020 #29

Thanks, i figured ballots are already printed so it cant be undone now onetexan Apr 2020 #38

I wish wryter2000 Apr 2020 #142

BS has already done harm either way. We can't control factions from starting up parties. They can do onetexan Apr 2020 #157

True, but the DNC can revoke his priveldge of being the nominee LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #76

That will happen as a matter of course on the first ballot MineralMan Apr 2020 #81

I truly believe that it will be far too late by then, after four more months of "Biden is a rapist" LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #92

We will have none of that here, though. MineralMan Apr 2020 #105

If he is staying on the ballot to gain delegates, the primary isn't over :( LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #107

But it is over. Senator Sanders' delegate count will not grow MineralMan Apr 2020 #111

I appreciate what you are saying. I will refrain from dragging the conversation down further LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #124

Yep! LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #83

So did Oklahoma. Beartracks Apr 2020 #113

Mineral Man is right. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #78

Leverage to apply in order to build a more progressive platform, of course. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #58

He has no leverage any more, and Biden's positions are, in fact, prgressive. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #62

Joe is a gracious statesman; he is not a progressive. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #69

Please define "progressive." The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #71

Liz, Tammy, Bernie, Pocan, Grijalva... Magoo48 Apr 2020 #115

That's not a definition, it's a list. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #118

They support universal healthcare, ending theforever wars, Magoo48 Apr 2020 #125

So does Biden. All Democrats support universal healthcare, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #127

Right Magoo48 Apr 2020 #133

Interesting discussion. K&R to bump this up! onetexan Apr 2020 #128

He wouldn't throw women and minorities Aquaria Apr 2020 #80

Yet, the un and under insured left in the lurch, Magoo48 Apr 2020 #98

They would have been left further Aquaria Apr 2020 #112

Speculation and horseshit Magoo48 Apr 2020 #122

Reality that has been demonstrated, already. Aquaria Apr 2020 #139

Joe is a progressive so just top with the hits please...he is now our nominee. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #87

Yup, he's blue and I'm voting for him. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #120

Sanders nor his supporters gets to decided who is progressive. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #166

No, they do not. Correct. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #170

The platform is as or more liberal Aquaria Apr 2020 #77

Exactly.. he's only Cha Apr 2020 #160

Well, don't most candidates stay on ballots anyways? Claustrum Apr 2020 #3

He's talking about the convention ballot. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #20

Exactly FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #27

Let Sanders withhold his delegates. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #89

Exactly. Bernie is just grandstanding. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #91

Withhold away. Aquaria Apr 2020 #101

Elizabeth Warren was still on the Washington ballot on March 10th. LisaM Apr 2020 #61

Same for me with Kamala Harris in CA n/t wryter2000 Apr 2020 #147

The states decide that. Aquaria Apr 2020 #86

He truly is a selfish man violasays Apr 2020 #4

Knock it off. Support Democrats. ancianita Apr 2020 #21

Bernie's not a Democrat StarfishSaver Apr 2020 #39

i think in the context of this discussion, he is jorgevlorgan Apr 2020 #42

There is no context in which Bernie Sanders is a Democrat StarfishSaver Apr 2020 #51

Tell that to your party. It's a stale, played out argument around here. Get with the unity. ancianita Apr 2020 #44

MY party? StarfishSaver Apr 2020 #49

Fine. OUR party. Okay now? ancianita Apr 2020 #53

A little late for that StarfishSaver Apr 2020 #100

I don't wear a slip, but hey, believe what you want. ancianita Apr 2020 #134

YOUR party? It's OUR party. lapucelle Apr 2020 #52

And The Illusion Lives On Me. Apr 2020 #54

Not on my part. "OUR" is meant in different ways. The reality is now that OUR party includes ancianita Apr 2020 #59

If The Primaries Are Over Doesn't He Become An Independent Again? Me. Apr 2020 #64

Do I have to post his video where he states that he will not become independent or form a 3rd party? ancianita Apr 2020 #70

Given HIs History Why Would I Believe Him? Me. Apr 2020 #99

That there may be many Democrats we ask why we should believe, doesn't mean we don't ancianita Apr 2020 #110

Will Support Dems Me. Apr 2020 #158

He's already an Independent. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #103

"your party" TwilightZone Apr 2020 #93

Whoops StarfishSaver Apr 2020 #102

Not sure why you feel it's necessary to order people around? And Cha Apr 2020 #167

THIS Aquaria Apr 2020 #88

Who do you think you're speaking to? violasays Apr 2020 #65

Call him what you want.The fact that Bernie has withdrawn shows that you're being extremely critical ancianita Apr 2020 #79

It's not calling him what we want Aquaria Apr 2020 #119

You presume to speak for "we" now? Okay, then. ancianita Apr 2020 #123

And you're presuming to speak for us. Aquaria Apr 2020 #132

Believe what you want. Presume what you want. ancianita Apr 2020 #136

I leave presumption to your ilk Aquaria Apr 2020 #140

My ilk support Democrats. Take it or leave it. ancianita Apr 2020 #149

You speak for me, Aquaria.. Mahalo! Cha Apr 2020 #165

Still take the time to vote. Safely. LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #116

Welcome to DU wryter2000 Apr 2020 #148

Support the nominee...as for Sanders...sad to see him go out this way...the worst speech I ever Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #94

I hear you. ancianita Apr 2020 #96

It is over. We can't care about what he does or doesn't do or his supporters. We should attempt to Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #104

He whammed us, now he is bamming us and we won't get a thank you ma'am after. GemDigger Apr 2020 #5

Aww. Fuck. ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #6

Thanks for nothing, Bernie. n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #7

Not me but us.. Peacetrain Apr 2020 #8

If Sanders has his way sure....but he won't this time. He can't help us this time in the states Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #19

How exactly does he plan to exert this "leverage"?? honest.abe Apr 2020 #9

If you listened, you'd know. He plans to exert his delegate leverage toward party platform writing. ancianita Apr 2020 #25

The fault that we have SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE. Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #36

He, in fact, influenced the party platform last time. That's "this movie" we've seen before. ancianita Apr 2020 #48

Bullshit. Aquaria Apr 2020 #143

Not so. ancianita Apr 2020 #154

Yeah, I get that part.. honest.abe Apr 2020 #60

"I fear." That cannot be the basis of your promoting party unity. We can't afford disunity, either. ancianita Apr 2020 #68

If Bernie really cared about defeating Trump in Nov.. honest.abe Apr 2020 #75

Joe will make it clear that he supports Bernie and vice versa. ancianita Apr 2020 #138

Joe will do his best to unify the party. honest.abe Apr 2020 #144

Focus On The Platform Is Absurd, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #63

You, Sir, indulge in strawman arguments against members of your own party. Pity. ancianita Apr 2020 #74

Please Continue To Chant The Names Of Logical Fallacies At Me, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #85

I leave the chanting of fantasy labels to you, Sir. The amusement is all mine. ancianita Apr 2020 #95

If You Say So, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #108

It is to laugh for a BSer to accuse others Aquaria Apr 2020 #145

What delegate leverage? LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #90

Then he and anyone who thinks this Aquaria Apr 2020 #130

I don't think he'll get nearly what he gathered in 2016. RandySF Apr 2020 #10

I don't either. He didn't before he was suspended. octoberlib Apr 2020 #16

There is really no reason to give him and his supporters anything of the extras Blue_true Apr 2020 #33

Oh you mean when he brought cornel west on The Platform and Cha Apr 2020 #169

So he isn't really suspending. ucrdem Apr 2020 #11

Stop seeing what is not there. No. He's not suspending. He's WITHDRAWING. ancianita Apr 2020 #26

He used the term suspension and in the middle of a pandemic, he urged his voters to continue Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #97

I tend to agree, but saw his urging his voters to use their right to stick with their primary goals. ancianita Apr 2020 #106

I agree but is is right to do this with a pandemic in full force where people risk their lives doing Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #151

Fine. He may suspend. He wants his supporters to engage. It won't hurt us or Biden. ancianita Apr 2020 #121

I am glad he is out at least he did that but I am not upset about his accrual of delegates which I Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #150

My question is whether it's the party, Bernie or states that determine whether primaries continue or ancianita Apr 2020 #159

He's suspending, not withdrawing. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #109

Fine. If you don't draw a distinction; if he said that word, then I won't bother ancianita Apr 2020 #114

Look, I've given up on the guy completely. ucrdem Apr 2020 #164

What was the point of suspending the campaign then? Walleye Apr 2020 #12

Seriously? Here it is: to say that Joe Biden won the primary and is the Party's presumptive nominee ancianita Apr 2020 #28

That's good, but it was a pretty weak statement Walleye Apr 2020 #35

No one's perfect. ancianita Apr 2020 #152

Ok, so true. I'll go along with that. Walleye Apr 2020 #153

That's been my theme throughout this thread. ancianita Apr 2020 #155

If a candidate "suspends" their campaign they get to keep the money they raised The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #41

That's utterly irrelevant and will have the reverse effect DarthDem Apr 2020 #13

No endorsement...continue the fight ...accrue delegates- asking kids to risk their lives for him so Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #15

A true Democrat would work to unite the party aeromanKC Apr 2020 #17

What leverage? He lost. He wants to shape the party platform for people who don't vote, octoberlib Apr 2020 #18

The party platform has always been aspirational. That's to draw people to GOTV. Not a bad thing. ancianita Apr 2020 #30

"I will work with Biden, but I still want my supporters to vote for me and against Biden" dalton99a Apr 2020 #22

I'm okay with that.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #23

Surrender Establishment Democrats Dorothy. betsuni Apr 2020 #31

I think Marcus jumped the gun - DURHAM D Apr 2020 #32

Primary is indeed over...he suspended said he had no path...time to begin the general...when does Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #131

The Man Lives Down To The Lowest Expectations Yet Again, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #34

Voters know what to do. Really they do. MineralMan Apr 2020 #37

Dammit! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #40

great news!! jorgevlorgan Apr 2020 #43

This Kind of Behavior Is Why Bernie Will Never Expand His Support Among Dems Indykatie Apr 2020 #45

Leverage Is Another Word For Blackmail Me. Apr 2020 #55

Exactly.. ain't gonna work. Cha Apr 2020 #161

You Are, As Always, Correct Me. Apr 2020 #162

lol... not always.. Cha Apr 2020 #163

THIS !!! Sanders numbers among the party base was abysmal uponit7771 Apr 2020 #168

That's nothing new. If your name is already on the ballot, it's stay there even if u drop out. Kaleva Apr 2020 #46

The man's ego knows no bounds. MoonRiver Apr 2020 #47

This maneuver will not work for Bernie mcar Apr 2020 #50

50 replies/comments so far - ZERO from the Bernie supporters?? NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #56

So he can do what he did in 2016, great causing more division. redstatebluegirl Apr 2020 #57

Offer him HHS Coleman Apr 2020 #66

Biden would have to be crazy to put that man in his administration, anywhere. tritsofme Apr 2020 #146

Not no Aquaria Apr 2020 #156

Of course. Kahuna Apr 2020 #67

Well, the party platform and a buck seventy-five frazzled Apr 2020 #72

Good n/t Devil Child Apr 2020 #73

What an absolutely shitty thing to do. Lars39 Apr 2020 #82

And the bros will carry on... The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #84

He is not a Democrat and has zero say in the platform of a party Piratedog Apr 2020 #117

What an ass. So his "suspension of the campaign" was an attention mongering lie. Squinch Apr 2020 #126

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Apr 2020 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author njhoneybadger Apr 2020 #129

If he wants leverage all he needs is a 2 x 4. MrsCoffee Apr 2020 #137

He is despicable. I will be disappointed if he gets a prime time speaking slot at the convention. tritsofme Apr 2020 #141