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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Tell me again why Biden has to reach out to Sanders voters? [View all]Gothmog
(145,291 posts)90. If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage
sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/
Sanderss remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. Its not clear why the Biden camp should give Sanders anything.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Exactly..it seems everyone else's supporters followed their candidates lead -
asiliveandbreathe
Mar 2020
#25
Anyone who right now is considering voting for Trump or staying at home if they can't have Bernie
StarfishSaver
Mar 2020
#85
Shaming and blaming others for our losses just shows weakness. If Biden is our candidate then
jalan48
Mar 2020
#56
u said quote: do you like losing? well that's what bernie is doing these days nt
msongs
Mar 2020
#59
You need to compare the date of the OP and the post dates with the debate schedule.
jalan48
Apr 2020
#116
Hey-Biden needs Bernie's supporters to vote for him. What do you think would be an effective
jalan48
Mar 2020
#73
It is what it is. Either we pull together or we don't. Blaming Sanders and his supporters is
jalan48
Mar 2020
#79
Joe would be horrified by that. He would NOT want us to shut out Bernie supporters!
hedda_foil
Mar 2020
#89
Nothing will endear these people to vote for Biden, if Trump doesn't already do it. Nothing.
LizBeth
Mar 2020
#81
Sanders clearly feels no need to reach out to anyone who doesn't just agree with him on everything.
ehrnst
Apr 2020
#117
The exact numbers are in dispute given the difficulty in determining something such as this...
W_HAMILTON
Mar 2020
#28
Just as 40% of Hillary voters in June 2008 said they would not support Obama.
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#38
The percentage was much higher than 12%. The 12% number is for BS to Trump voters specifically.
lapucelle
Mar 2020
#50
Even if that 19% figure is representative, 81% of his supporters will vote for Biden.
pampango
Mar 2020
#15
It is the role of the 1st place finisher to reach out to supporters of the 2nd place finisher,
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#39
Like Carville said last night.."the Democratic voters during the primary
asiliveandbreathe
Mar 2020
#16
Even after giving sanders everything he wanted in platform look at what happened last time
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#22
Exit poll showed 16% of Hillary supporters who voted in November 2008 voted for McCain
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#68
And Cornell West, one of the people Bernie appointed to shape that platform
Docreed2003
Mar 2020
#80
So I read "81% of Sanders voters say the WILL (or probably WILL) vote for the Dem nominee".
CincyDem
Mar 2020
#29
The tweet you quote in the op IS the answer to the question you posed. n/t
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#36
Because Biden is a mature, responsible, compassionate leader who understands...
TygrBright
Mar 2020
#53
I'm a Biden supporter, but he had the great fortune to be running against a very weak field
Midwestern Democrat
Mar 2020
#94
We don't need to alienate them. But we don't need to pander to them, either.
Vivienne235729
Mar 2020
#92
The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 were racists non-democrats who hated Obama
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#97
Then He Or She Might As Well Be Up On A Soap-Box In Bughouse Square, Sir
The Magistrate
Apr 2020
#121
Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#135