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ehrnst

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71. You mean hours afterwards? Perhaps you aren't looking at a clock...

Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:35 PM

Mar 2020

It's not difficult...

I think you may have heard what you wanted to... because of this:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — As a congressman in the 1990s, Bernie Sanders expressed an openness to making “adjustments” to the tax and benefit structure of Social Security. He also praised an overhaul of the social safety net program signed into law by President Ronald Reagan that reduced benefits and increased taxes on working families.

Sanders’ presidential campaign and allies have highlighted similar remarks by Joe Biden to attack the former vice president and make the explosive charge that Biden was an outspoken proponent of slashing the program.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Great new Biden ad on sanders' lies about Social Security [View all] Gothmog Mar 2020 OP

This Does Biden No Favors McKim Mar 2020 #1

It's a 30 second ad addressing BS' lies Hav Mar 2020 #3

He has to address it. Ignoring Sanders lies about Biden would be a mistake still_one Mar 2020 #7

Agreed BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #20

Joe is correct because sanders isn't going to stop putting this kind of false stuff out there Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #27

No he won't, and Joe needs to call the lie out for what it is still_one Mar 2020 #45

These lies must be addressed. Only wish he had said "Bernie is lying about me because he's losing." emmaverybo Mar 2020 #50

It IS addressing issues. Orangeanus just said that he will cut SS and medicare benefits. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2020 #11

Sanders and Iraq... ehrnst Mar 2020 #17

That's false, Biden was never open to "dialing back Social Security". Sanders' ONLY "issue"... George II Mar 2020 #19

Bernie voted for the AUMF as well.... ehrnst Mar 2020 #24

False statement about Biden and Social Security and Medicare... ehrnst Mar 2020 #23

How did you miss this? lapucelle Mar 2020 #37

Thank you! Cha Mar 2020 #91

Isn't that "If your time is short..." stuff from a BS attack ad? lapucelle Mar 2020 #40

BS voted with Republicans against the Brady Bill five times and in favor of the PLCAA. lapucelle Mar 2020 #41

Attack? You and I must have viewed different ads. Politicub Mar 2020 #34

Do you think Sanders should stop bullshit attacks? NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #43

They won't answer that question. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #58

He has to take on lies and distortions. Hardly an attack, just setting the record straight. As with emmaverybo Mar 2020 #48

Exactly!! And the ad ignores what Joe actually SAID... so it's a weak attack against Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #55

But it shows xactly what Bernie said... ehrnst Mar 2020 #85

Sanders is trying to distort Biden's RECORD on Social Security. Blue_true Mar 2020 #57

This is an Excellent Ad Getting the Truth Out There! Cha Mar 2020 #89

Joe did that Gothmog Mar 2020 #90

Does this work for you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #96

Let's hope this inspires Bernie to avoid going scorched earth at their debate Submariner Mar 2020 #2

Does "scorched earth" include quoting Joe Biden?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #9

Well if what you mean by quoting SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #10

Yes, quoting him deceptively with doctored videos and taking words out of context NYMinute Mar 2020 #16

"Scorched earth" includes MIS-quoting Joe Biden. George II Mar 2020 #26

You mean misquote? ehrnst Mar 2020 #29

No just beating Bernie from coast to coast. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #35

Yes. When Bernie takes quotes out of context and uses them Politicub Mar 2020 #36

Then you won't mind when we quote Sanders.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #44

Crickets.... ehrnst Mar 2020 #47

sanders is on record calling for cuts to Social Security Gothmog Mar 2020 #59

NO IT DOESN', but it does mean "misquoting" to mislead. BS knows better! n/t napi21 Mar 2020 #80

sanders ad was found to be misleading and false but it still being used Gothmog Mar 2020 #83

Apparently that's the way he WANTS to run his campaign this time. You're right. It's sad! n/t napi21 Mar 2020 #84

Exactly! 👍 Duppers Mar 2020 #52

This is a valid issue for Biden to respond to. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #4

Eliminating Social Security for 30 years Bayard Mar 2020 #12

Just heard it on MSNBC. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #13

I heard it on the TV True Blue American Mar 2020 #32

The cousin of "I saw it on the Internet, so it must be true". Blue_true Mar 2020 #61

From some Bernie admirer. Maybe you should seek out facts and go from there. Blue_true Mar 2020 #60

:) True Blue American Mar 2020 #63

Facts are a stubborn thing, and I provided them. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #67

A search on MSNBC of Biden 30 years Social Security returns nothing ehrnst Mar 2020 #65

That's just crazy. You think there's a transcript minutes after there's a conversation Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #68

You mean hours afterwards? Perhaps you aren't looking at a clock... ehrnst Mar 2020 #71

lapucelle on post 54 heard it and the host agreed with the statement. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #72

You're talking about this post #54? ehrnst Mar 2020 #73

I assumed she heard it, because that's how it happened. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #74

So you don't agree with post #54? ehrnst Mar 2020 #75

I took her post at face value. Since that is the way it happened, I assumed she had seen Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #76

So, maybe you should consider that you heard what you wanted to hear ehrnst Mar 2020 #77

Explain to me how you're not gaslighting me? Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #79

.... ehrnst Mar 2020 #81

Here's a reference from the Interceptor: Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #14

The Interceptor, that Russian backed muck-raking piece of shit journal. Blue_true Mar 2020 #62

Biden's political positions are easily researched. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #69

On MSNBC, a BS surrogate noted a few random quotes from different decades, all taken out of context. lapucelle Mar 2020 #54

I'll accept that. I even noticed that the host didn't disagree with him. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #70

Biden's current stance on Social Security: (posted elsewhere earier today) pazzyanne Mar 2020 #15

"He's more of a centrist, and his views have changed considerably over time." Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #21

The context makes it clear. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #39

#7 would be an absolute nightmare no matter who supports it. MarcA Mar 2020 #42

I have no idea what it is. Thanks for the head's up. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #46

Thank you. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #49

Perhaps you got that mistaken idea about Biden from .... ehrnst Mar 2020 #31

OF COURSE IT IS... WILL WAIT PATIENTLY FOR JOE'S RESPONSE. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #56

What response...pointing out the lie...... AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #82

Whadaya mean? Joe already dropped the mic!!!! ehrnst Mar 2020 #86

Another excellent ad from Biden PatSeg Mar 2020 #5

That is an excellent ad!!!! nevergiveup Mar 2020 #6

Great ad! NYMinute Mar 2020 #18

And that's exactly what they are ...lies put out by the sanders campaign Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #30

Now that was good. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #22

Great! I hope they keep this ad agency! nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #25

Great ad! Thank you for posting n/t Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #28

Joe should say: LakeArenal Mar 2020 #33

And how does he negate the charge when Trump does it? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #38

Will Bloomberg have to spend money to fight Bernie off? mchill Mar 2020 #51

It is sad. Duppers Mar 2020 #53

Biden 31% True Blue American Mar 2020 #64

More hypocrisy from the Sanders side!! blue-wave Mar 2020 #66

Good. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #78

I am glad that Joe is running this ad in Florida Gothmog Mar 2020 #87

Great ad. ucrdem Mar 2020 #88

Sanders is great in one respect BidenBacker Mar 2020 #92

Sanders' ads are false and misleading Gothmog Mar 2020 #93

When the general election season starts BidenBacker Mar 2020 #94

Joe was great this week Gothmog Mar 2020 #95

Biden did support chained cpi method of COLA iwannaknow Mar 2020 #97

It's a more accurate measure. I support Hortensis Mar 2020 #98