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10. Harry and Louise. Democrats used to recognize it and fight back.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:38 PM

Nov 2019

Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:22 AM - Edit history (2)

Now some of them will just cower.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Elizabeth Warren Retreats From Medicare for All [View all] George II Nov 2019 OP

Hmmm... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #2

Some of the irrational hatred toward Warren rings true Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #4

This critiique of Warren, which you should read in its entirety, was writtens by a woman, and highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7

I dont need to read any more "reviews" about Warren. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #12

There are more important factors than just IQ in picking a leader. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20

Agreed wiley Nov 2019 #85

She passes every test for me. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #108

Well squirecam Nov 2019 #111

she has a very narrow constituency Unclephil Nov 2019 #22

Most qualified? How? I understand liking her plans, personality, even ideology, but most emmaverybo Nov 2019 #29

Nope. A one on one debate would show the difference. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #30

Nope.. Biden is the most qualified to be POTUS. Cha Nov 2019 #37

She would "beat him like a drum" in a one on one debate. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #41

No she wouldn't .. Biden will beat the psycho in the WH. Cha Nov 2019 #46

That, if it were to transpire, would not give her greater qualifications for office. No matter how emmaverybo Nov 2019 #48

It would reveal their relative strengths & weaknesses. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #49

She is an academic, an economic scholar. Biden is not. He has a broad range of other strengths emmaverybo Nov 2019 #54

We're not electing a Debater-in-Chief. I've competed in debates, and I don't confuse highplainsdem Nov 2019 #50

Mental acuity, logical reasoning, comportment matter. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #53

They matter most for college debate judges. And Biden's calm, thoughtful, compassionate, and emmaverybo Nov 2019 #55

In the artificial world of debate competition, yes. In the real world, and especially the real highplainsdem Nov 2019 #57

Great response and absolutely true! emmaverybo Nov 2019 #59

Likeability matters most to voters - past elections demonstrate that. N/T Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #102

She wouldn't beat Biden because Biden knows more about governing... Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #66

Yes! This and this, his FP creds, are crucial in the qualifications America and the world need. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #77

Just like her financial bonafides & willingness to take on Wall Street. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #104

Domestic economic policy is important, but foreign policy and relations can make the difference emmaverybo Nov 2019 #110

Her attempt to tell how to pay for M4A would call into question.. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #120

"best and most qualified person running" left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #52

Whether she is the "best and most qualified person running" is your subjective view. That she won't still_one Nov 2019 #106

It HAS to be sexist if its critical! Thats the go-to. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #42

Just because someone doesn't agree with EW Cha Nov 2019 #13

x1000, Cha peggysue2 Nov 2019 #32

Miscalculating on the centerpiece of one's candidacy could be an important failure to consider emmaverybo Nov 2019 #43

Agreed, emmaverybo peggysue2 Nov 2019 #62

This has nothing to do with the fact that Warren is a woman.... George II Nov 2019 #40

Democrats squirecam Nov 2019 #112

I have recently become very critical of Warren after the last debate. bobGandolf Nov 2019 #56

It is not about sexism and I don't hate Warren helpisontheway Nov 2019 #63

Wow SterlingPound Nov 2019 #76

Voicing what millions of Americans, many Democrats, feel borders on Trumpism? Why do you emmaverybo Nov 2019 #78

Biden isnt working toward Universal healthcare and never will be SterlingPound Nov 2019 #79

Reality squirecam Nov 2019 #114

and as long as the dems keep repeating that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. SterlingPound Nov 2019 #117

Truth squirecam Nov 2019 #121

the truth would be that people like biden profit from the insurance companies and have zero interest SterlingPound Nov 2019 #124

Um squirecam Nov 2019 #113

it is already blown up SterlingPound Nov 2019 #115

And squirecam Nov 2019 #122

It is personal for everyone SterlingPound Nov 2019 #123

This was anything but a "brilliant" move on Warren's part. Read the entire piece. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #6

Folks seem to forget DownriverDem Nov 2019 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #11

How come she can't remember Unclephil Nov 2019 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #25

I do think she is very smart Unclephil Nov 2019 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #33

The electorate is different Unclephil Nov 2019 #34

The rankings on DU and the eventual nominee haven't always matched, to put it mildly. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #35

Actually "undecided" has a wide lead on DU. For a reason, obviously. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #44

Are you certain you know the reason? JudyM Nov 2019 #69

That poster is still here....can you answer the questions? AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #75

Guess not squirecam Nov 2019 #116

That's a question that I would like an answer to. Welcome to DU! Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #103

Like me it was her first presidential vote Unclephil Nov 2019 #107

No warren supporter forgets that SterlingPound Nov 2019 #80

Brilliant people.... boomer_wv Nov 2019 #61

The insurance companies are spending billions to frighten people, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #3

Harry and Louise. Democrats used to recognize it and fight back. blm Nov 2019 #10

Now, many repeat the insurance company nonsense. eom guillaumeb Nov 2019 #14

Insurance companies are the culprit in a number of our societal ills. JudyM Nov 2019 #70

But their propaganda works. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #95

Let's hope there's a real, substantive exploration of this by the media this election cycle! JudyM Nov 2019 #97

Wow. Hope people read the entire thing. The rest of it is even more critical of Warren's highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5

Yep, she's a horrible choice. How dare she even run? Good grief. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #17

I'm a woman who supported HRC and who wants our nominee to be the candidate with the highplainsdem Nov 2019 #36

Thank you. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #45

Settle? Lucky such a qualified, experienced, and knowledgeable candidate as Biden emmaverybo Nov 2019 #39

Then squirecam Nov 2019 #118

I think most people agree that it is unlikely that ANY candidate could pass MFA in year one. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #24

Yet, Bernie's M4A plan doesn't receive the same level scrutiny dlk Nov 2019 #8

Very odd, isn't it? Blaukraut Nov 2019 #19

Hmm... dlk Nov 2019 #26

Elizabeth went after Biden first. The others went after Warren because she was not truthful about helpisontheway Nov 2019 #65

I think Warren was avoiding creating a sound bite for Republicans to use against her in an ad dlk Nov 2019 #67

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #64

Bernie is handling PR and the media very smartly. Joe941 Nov 2019 #72

The difference is Bernie was honest about the middle class being taxed, so no scrutiny warranted. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #105

This was a very necessary pivot, IMO ecstatic Nov 2019 #15

other candidates health care proposals are paper thin and get no scrutiny. so it goes. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #16

Warren has been targeted by the elites. She scares them to death. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #18

Plans that include protecting and improving Obamacare, Medicaid, and Medicare are not thin. These emmaverybo Nov 2019 #86

re: "And why would such a plan be easier to pass than Medicare for All?" thesquanderer Nov 2019 #21

The ability to pass even a plan like this through budget reconcilliation is highly doubtful. tritsofme Nov 2019 #28

Probably helps in Primary, but in General she's still branded as "MFA, even if you don't want it." Hoyt Nov 2019 #31

Unfortunately true, but at least she's responding to reality. Plus OnDoutside Nov 2019 #101

Pramila Jayapal is on board BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #38

Warren is looking for a workable plan to provide affordable health care for all Americans. Nitram Nov 2019 #47

I don't see where she's "backing off", just explaining how to transition from one system Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #51

I am good with this and appreciate her listening to what was being said when standing so strongly Jewls2 Nov 2019 #58

Is this consider a walk back or flip flop? Thought she had strong convictions FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #60

Stand for something ForEverGlades Nov 2019 #71

Is this buying into the Medicare of today forthemiddle Nov 2019 #68

Our taxes already pay for OB/GYN care for poor people. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #73

Just a smal sampling of press coverage on this change Gothmog Nov 2019 #74

Hilarious to see the OP posting Libby Watson articles melman Nov 2019 #81

*I* am "the OP", thank you. One wonders why you don't address "the OP" directly.... George II Nov 2019 #83

lol melman Nov 2019 #84

Nothing to unpack. You bashed me for posting an article from The New Republic.... George II Nov 2019 #88

".. auto kill the messenger.." strikes again.. episode Cha Nov 2019 #98

The New Republic was the first publication to carry an article chronicling the web of Trump's emmaverybo Nov 2019 #89

They've been doing it for more than 100 years (1914), but I guess they're not pure enough for some. George II Nov 2019 #93

Did not know they go back that far. Nothing pure enough for some. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #94

But it's not The Nation. Didn't they scoff at Cha Nov 2019 #99

She saw that it was political suicide. n/t NYMinute Nov 2019 #82

Darn it! I wanted to hear all about it Baked Potato Nov 2019 #87

Ha ha. But any challenge on it brings out a prickly side. She was quite uncomfortable when the emmaverybo Nov 2019 #90

This next debate should be very interesting Baked Potato Nov 2019 #91

Yep squirecam Nov 2019 #119

She should have done that to start with. Blue_true Nov 2019 #92

I agree.. I would have Cha Nov 2019 #100

Physicians for a National Health Program BeckyDem Nov 2019 #96

Warren's plan did not past muster Gothmog Nov 2019 #109