Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumElizabeth Warren Retreats From Medicare for All
Warren has struggled to voice unequivocal support for single-payer. In March, she said there were different pathways to universal coverage, including expanding Medicaid and a buy-in mechanism. She seemed to find her bravery in October, when she released her plan to pay for Medicare for All. Questionable as the proposal wasit relied on a regressive head tax of employers, instead of progressive payroll taxesit did tie her definitively to a single-payer health care plan in a way that she had previously avoided. Few could say she didnt own the policy once she had outlined the taxes that would pay for it, which is arguably the hardest part of the single-payer pitch. Only now, shes blown all that up.
Warrens latest plan ostensibly provides for the transitioning to Medicare for All. In reality, it is a clearer indication that she has settled for the public option, like most of the rest of the field. Within the first 100 days of her administration, she proposes to pass a bill allowing anyone to buy into Medicarewhile providing it free of charge to children under 18 and anyone making less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level ($51,500 for a family of four). Her administration would use budget reconciliation to avoid the Senate filibuster and pass with only 51 votesthough this process would still require Democratic squishes like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to find something resembling conviction.
Warrens proposal would cap premiums at 5 percent of incomewhich would be competitive with most, if not all, employer-sponsored insurance; competing plans among the Democratic field peg the cap at 8 percent. The covered benefits would match those enumerated in Bernie Sanderss Medicare for All bill. Confusingly, she also claims the bill would gradually decrease to zero the cost-sharing, like premiums and co-pays, in subsequent years. This is essentially saying the public option would morph into free healthcare at some pointlike Medicare for All, but without the abolition of private insurance. Who but the obscenely rich would keep paying for private insurance if theres a free public option that covers everything? And why would such a plan be easier to pass than Medicare for All? Those questions remain unanswered.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/155756/elizabeth-warren-retreats-medicare
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,903 posts)... I was off, a bit. I predicted she would do this after winning the Nom. But, when I thought that, she looked like she was on a J-curve to the Nom. Now, she's stalled a little - time to readjust may be now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)Of sexism...just like Hillary...and it makes me sick.
She is such an intellectual talent that this country doesnt deserve and wouldnt appreciate.
Im starting to really dislike a lot of people in my party and Im the most yellow of the yellow dog Dems that you will ever know.
Its just ridiculous the way that she and most any brilliant woman is treated.
We still, as a society, dont value a womans mind and that sickens me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)there is nothing remotely "sexist" about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)She is by far the best and most qualified person running.
Which means she wont get the nomination.
Our country no longer values exceptional intellect.
More about the show and likability and having a beer with.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)And for that matter, if we were going on IQ alone, I'd guess Pete Buttigieg might have the highest IQ of any of our candidates.
Wisdom, leadership, experience and political skills are more important.
IMO Warren made a major miscalculation championing MFA in the first place, though she probably made the political calculation that it was necessary if she was going to get more progressives' votes than Sanders would.
IMO she made a second miscalculation in thinking that after she rolled out detailed plans in other policy areas, she could get away with dodging questions on how she'd pay for MFA.
IMO she made a third mistake with her funding plan, which even experts who support her otherwise pointed out was using some questionable numbers, downplaying costs and overestimating revenue.
But she made that mistake because she realized after last month's debate that she was in trouble.
The funding plan wasn't getting her out of trouble, though, so she came up with yet another plan.
And IMO this "transition" plan is a fourth mistake. It's kinda MFA but kinda isn't, and it may alienate those of her supporters who want her to go for MFA right away, but it still won't pick up voters who think MFA itself is a mistake.
It looks like an attempt to be all things to all people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wiley
(2,921 posts)Republicans will have a field day with her Russian nesting doll type plan within a plan within a plan within a plan.
It's called backing it up after your rhetoric gets so over the top voters look at you like you'll promise them a chicken in every pot and lots of pot to smoke with it.
She jumped the shark on this one. No question in my mind that she is going to lose to Pete in Iowa and she knows it.
And all the dark money commercials that are running in Iowa for her haven't been taken down yet.
I know she has pleaded for them to be taken down, and for her long time supporters not to keep spending millions of dollars in dark money on her, but they haven't. Kind of makes her look very, very weak.
The claim that she is being attacked because she is a woman is perhaps the tiredest meme ever created. If that were really a problem how could she have made it so far in her career?
M4A is a really bad idea. She was warned about it. She was confronted on it. Yet she persisted.
Some things have nothing to with a political race or competitive election. They demonstrate someone's personality.
I want a tough and smart leader. Sex is irrelevant.
Stuborn people are just too high maintenance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)She fails a lot for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Unclephil
(92 posts)well educated white people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)qualified? So heres an opening for the leader of the free world, of a superpower, to fill all the responsibilities and powers of the presidency and Warren is the most qualified, job-specific qualified for this position? You may find her particular qualifications most desirable for the presidency, but she is not the most qualified.
That would be Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)Hope we get that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)conversant she is on her own polices, and domestic economic policy in general, she lacks broader vision, any FP credibility, and Bidens acute emotional IQ and appeal. Presidential debates are not,
as holistically perceived by the public, predominantly an intellectual contest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)however, that more than compensate. These strengths include those in the realm of knowledge and experience, especially as they pertain to the presidency. Further, Biden connects emotionally with
a wider swath of Americans. This can change. It may change. But right now, unless DU were to be
judging the debates, I would wager Bidens strengths are most likely to prove wining.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)debate skills with leadership and governing ability.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)down to earth (+occasionally humorous) demeanor will probably ace the comportment category in the American publics rubric. These debates will be held neither at Miss Porters finishing school nor a college. Biden, as so many have noted, has great optics as a tv or movie president. Debates will be
filtered through the medium of tv.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)world of actual politics, they're important but not all-important.
Yes, we want our candidates to be bright and logical. ALL of them are.
And we want them to comport themselves well. ALL of them do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)about government policy and agendas. Biden is infinitely more qualified to lead on foreign policy and diplomacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)You go, Joe
America and the world need you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)between life and death for billions. Not only America, but the world needs Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)the "financial" part of post.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(91,948 posts)get the nomination because of that or any other characteristic is a false assumption.
At this point in time we have four leading candidates leading for the Democratic nomination. Senator Warren is right up there in the top tier, and she absolutely can become the nominee, but so can the others.
There is still a ways to go before we start to see where this is going, and what a good number of the polls do not reflect is that there are still a significant number of undecided voters regarding the Democratic primaries, along with a good number who have indicated that their current candidate preference may change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)That and/or racist.
Because then you can no longer continue the debate; you've been branded.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)doesn't mean they "hate" her.. or they're "sexist".
I still support Hillary.. especially being able to speak out.. she did win 66 Million Votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)I supported Hillary Clinton and I still support her public comments and whatever activism she chooses to engage. That doesn't mean I agreed/agree with every policy proposal or utterance.
Not agreeing with Elizabeth Warren's tortured approach to healthcare reform is not sexist, nor does it mean I 'hate' her. She was/is number 3 on my list of candidates. I simply think she miscalculated the whole healthcare issue. Actually I agree with a comment made by a poster earlier today--Warren was hoping to present herself as a less scary, less extreme version of Bernie Sanders, wrapping her progressive program in a way to appeal to those on the left and those (like myself), the liberal to moderate voter.
It hasn't worked and just left her campaign twisting in the wind, appealing to neither Democratic lane, at least not in the huge numbers I think she may have envisioned.
Warren had an opportunity to pivot but failed to do so. Instead, it appears she still wants to be all things to all people.
That rarely works and it's simply not working now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)overall in the many leadership tests all Dem candidates will face. For Warren supporters this misstep for being corrected will not be significant and might appear a sign of flexibility. I, however, do not feel reassured by it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Not a good look.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)I thought by 2019 we'd be WAY beyond that. Don't you remember who our nominee was in 2016?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)We do this stuff every time. We are never beyond it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bobGandolf
(871 posts)And there is nothing sexist about it.
I was starting to lean toward her because I was impressed with all the policies she had developed, but had some reservations about her being a bit rigid with her policies. The last debate confirmed it for me. She became visibly infuriated when anyone disagreed with her in the slightest way, and acted much like Bernie Sanders (minus the yelling), who I also disfavor. Anything resembling zealotry is a big red flag for me.
It's disingenuous to cry sexism whenever there is criticism of a female candidate. There is very real sexism in this primary (via lack of news coverage for women candidates and media minimizing their potential), and there was insidious and destructive sexist treatment toward Hilary Clinton in 2016.
But I refuse to say something is sexist unless it clearly is so and there is not another equally logical explanation for it. The power of our women's rights efforts is diminished when we are too quick and casual with such accusations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)I just dont want her to screw up the healthcare that my husband earned after 20 years in the military. He is planning to retire in about two years and she is talking about taking his insurance? Good luck with that Elizabeth. Even if she says she wont do that now Im not sure I believe her. She has been like a dog with a bone about Medicare for all. Im supposed to believe that she would just drop it. Dont get me wrong. I love pretty much everything else about Elizabeth. She is the only one that makes me feel something when I listen to bits of her rally. I have like her since Hillary was running and she would take it to Trump. I actually wanted her to run back then. However, I will not vote for a candidate in the primary that has told me that she would not give us an option to keep our insurance. Which is exactly why I changed from undecided to Biden. No longer wavering between the two.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)"I just dont want her to screw up the healthcare that my husband earned after 20 years in the military."
Really? that is about the most ridiculous response I have ever heard next to a trumper responses.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)
think Warren is stepping away from her original plan? Liking ones healthcare, which one has worked for, is not tantamount to denying health care for others. Finally, Warren is listening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)Time to really face reality centerists
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)The reality is M4A wont pass if it eliminates private insurance.
The public option is the only passable option.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Truth hurts sometimes.
It wont get through the senate, even at 50 votes.
Are you going to work within reality, or forge ahead with healthcare brexit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)in M4a because of his donors more than any support it has now
or ever will have .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Blowing up the system is crazy. Not the response to it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)what is being talked about is what will replace it for the nation as a whole, not just the vets
which i am also one of and rely on the VA so also have a personal interest in as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)I have multiple pre existing conditions which make the specifics of health care policy important to me too. Its not just the military. Though I respect you for your service.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)and it isn't about one-upsmanship, but just because it is working for a few ( and the VA works Ok for me)
doesn't mean the rest should suffer and they are.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,206 posts)that a President can't do things all by him or herself. They have to work with the House and Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Unclephil
(92 posts)her first presidential vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Unclephil
(92 posts)I think she has to be realistic. No one wants something shoved down their throat. I am all for single payer. I have been buying insurance for 20 years on the open market. It is terrible. That being said it is a long haul to get it passed. The first thing is having business buy in.
Take away the tax deduction and tax the benefit as income which it should be. Why should people who buy their own get penalized? It took Canada a long time to get it through.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Unclephil
(92 posts)than DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,122 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Unclephil
(92 posts)I was the last of the people who had to be 21 to vote. You don't forget your forget presidential vote. Mine was McGovern It was a big deal. Nixon? etc. Supply side became big post Nixon. It is the basis of income inequality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)if we cant get supermajorities in the house and senate than it really doesnt matter who is in charge as long as it is a dem,
but I would still rather have warren pushing for more progressive programs than having Biden reliving his glory years legislation of the mid-1990s when the Dems helped pass the Republican bills that got us where we are right now!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
boomer_wv
(673 posts)Don't marry the wrong policy and then double down on it until they drop in the polls and then try to reverse it. They don't, very publicly, attack the people whos policy positions they are now adopting as "republicans."
Warren isn't forming coherent policy, she's putting her finger in the wind and trying to find which way the wind is blowing. Biden and Pete are doing well running against M4A, so now Warren is going to try to run against the plan she has be running on for the past year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)all so they can continue to make money by denying care to their customers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(112,920 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:22 AM - Edit history (2)
Now some of them will just cower.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,122 posts)They are all marketing and money-making. Theyre one of the main reasons health care costs are so high, as they charge exorbitant amounts to insure doctors, who then have to pass on the costs. They try to shift blame to the plaintiffs lawyers and demonize them, but thats a cynical farce.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Many are afraid of single payer even though it has proven to work better, and for less per person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,122 posts)A girl can dream...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)new plan.
Especially this paragraph:
And the author concludes that either Warren's naive, or she believes voters are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)Im so sick of it.
We DONT DESERVE HER.
Lets settle for Biden who will want the GOP to like him and get along and make no big changes.
I love Joe but he had his chance in 2016 and didnt take it.
We need a woman.
Im a man who says we need a strong 💪 brilliant woman at this point in our history.
I dont care about her health care policy and the minutiae of it.
She needs to be our President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,727 posts)best chance of beating Trump, getting helpful legislation passed, and uniting the country.
I see Biden as that candidate, with no one else even close at this point.
As much as I'd like to see a woman president in my lifetime, I make my decisions based on qualifications other than gender.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)is running. That he has greater support among the black electorate speaks to more than electability. More important it speaks to his potential to represent and to unify the widest swath
of American voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Im with Amy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,954 posts)Even the MFA plans that are out there talk about phasing it in. You could look at this as just Warren being a bit more specific about the phase-in process. In year one, pass what can be passed with reconciliation, and begin getting more people comfortable with "Medicare for more". If things go well with the plan AND with the midterms, they can look to take the next step in 2023. It might not happen, but it's not entirely inconceivable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,433 posts)Isn't he a viable candidate, too?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blaukraut
(5,689 posts)Somehow, Bernie skates right on through without any of the criticism that has been leveled at Warren for advocating the same damn thing. Biden hasn't aimed his fire at Sanders, either, but has had plenty of ridicule for Warren's plan. Now that Sanders has overtaken Warren in the polls, can we expect some of that same scrutiny being redirected toward him? I mean, that was the reason everyone went after Elizabeth, wasn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)
how she would pay for her plan. We know what Bernie believes. He also admitted that taxes would increase for middle class. That is all the candidates wanted her to admit at the debate. However, she would not do that and her poll numbers (outside of DU) started to drop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,433 posts)Lawrence ODonnell brought up this idea on his show. Also, the papers and pundits have been much more demanding for details of Warrens plan than Bernie. Its a glaring and disheartening double standard. That was my point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Joe941
(2,848 posts)Often times it's about handling things in a smart way. Bernie is brilliant!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,566 posts)I got really nervous when she appeared to double and triple down on MFA after the last debate. I wasn't sure I'd be able to get to the finish line with her after that (and I believe she lost a lot of support as a result). Now I feel a lot more comfortable but I still need her to lose the timeline. One thing I've learned after observing this trump debacle is to never say never. Anything is possible at this point, and I want my candidate's platform to consist of things that I'd be comfortable with were they to become a reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Funtatlaguy
(10,856 posts)Part of why I support her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)healthcare programs are viable, proven to give good quality care, and people like them. We dont know, if by a miracle M4All passes, how long it will take, and what it will look like.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,954 posts)That seems to be answered in the previous paragraph of the same piece:
"Her administration would use budget reconciliation to avoid the Senate filibuster and pass with only 51 votes"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(17,322 posts)The filibuster is going to be the major issue of 2021.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)But, a Public Option -- with significantly increased subsidies -- will get us to "MFA" faster.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,906 posts)having said she would get rid of private healthcare will be played as nauseum by republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,281 posts)But what does she know compared with a scribbler from The New Republic?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nitram
(22,671 posts)She is willing to do the work to crunch numbers and work with the powers that be to get it done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,367 posts)To the other. I don't see any change from M4A as the final destination, only a more detailed plan on how to get there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jewls2
(218 posts)with M4A. I was hoping she would re-evaluate, and re-evaluated she did. I can respect this. I was going to have to move away from her, but was confident in the way she runs her campaign that she would shift.
Works for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FloridaBlues
(3,993 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ForEverGlades
(64 posts)Undecided seems to be strong in most state polls.
Agree Florida is no different, Blues?
Biden would win easily here in South Florida right now due to name recognition alone from what I've seen and heard.
It's gonna be tough for lesser-known candidates who state strong positions then walk them back.
No one will have a substantive reason to support them.
Hard to see flip-flopping as a strength in this crowded field.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
forthemiddle
(1,373 posts)Or the mythical Medicare that Medicare for All would become?
As of today, Medicare doesnt cover most routine pediatric care, because it doesnt need to. It also doesnt cover any obstetrics care, again because it doesnt need too. Yet this marketing seems to be for all newborns, throughout their lives, and low income families, who presumably will need OB/GYN care.
So for her new plan to work, she would need to totally revamp Medicares coverage, and also increase the taxes to do so, all within her first 100 days? No way that will work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,272 posts)We just do it in the most inefficient way possible and receive worse outcomes than almost every other OECD state - ranked 33 out of 36.
So we pay two to three times more than need and let more kids die needlessly while doing it. Aint America great!
Medicare exists because the free market insurance industry that everyone suddenly loves left old people to fend for themselves.
Medicare is weak because you cant run an insurance industry while segregating the old sick people risk pool from the young healthy people risk pool. Thats now how insurance is supposed to work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)But any port in a storm I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...but in third person. That's insulting.
Still, do you know ANYTHING about The New Republic? In case not, here is a little bit of explanation from their website:
https://newrepublic.com/pages/about
Today, The New Republic is the voice of creative thinkers, united by a collective desire to challenge the status quo.
So someone who presumably supports AOC and Sanders, what's your problem with a publication that "champions progressive ideas"? Are you in favor of "the status quo". Or is it just because *I* posted it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A lot to unpack there so I'll leave it at that. Many many lols.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...which has been a progressive publication for more than 100 years. Surely a self-proclaimed progressive would know about The New Republic and their political political positions. Hint:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-republic/
?w=600&ssl=1
As for your "many many lols"....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)too numerous to count.
It never works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Russian affiliations (mob, Oligarchs) written by Craig Unger. An eye-opener read, its facts have only been cemented in the years since.
The New Republic has been both progressive and liberal for as far back as it goes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)Russian interference in the election?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)at the debates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)target was on her back. So perhaps she will be less defensive this time. Thus supporters will not have to accuse Biden of displaying toxic masculinity and go on and on about Warren being unfairly
attacked. We might finally learn her plans advantages as she sees them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)With everything that has transpired since the last one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Looking forward to it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I feel that her full-square embrace of Bernie's "take it or else" plan was a huge tactical mistake. She could have embraced the goal of MFA, but pointed out that she would glide path the ACA to get there in x years of her first term.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,903 posts)been impressed with that scenario.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)By Don McCanne, M.D.
As promised, Elizabeth Warren is proposing dramatic transitional steps in improving our health care financing system, ending in the third year with a full transformation into a bona fide single-payer improved Medicare for All program. The sketchy details of the transformation are spelled out in her article, but much more important is that the end goal of a single payer model of Medicare for All is not compromised. It really can be achieved.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden