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George II

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Fri Nov 15, 2019, 09:21 PM Nov 2019

Elizabeth Warren Retreats From Medicare for All [View all]

“Why would anyone go through all the trouble of running for president just to get up on stage and talk about what’s not possible?” This is the question Elizabeth Warren posed to thumb-faced millionaire John Delaney at a Democratic debate in July, as paraphrased by her campaign in a tweet, in response to Delaney’s characterization of bold policies as “impossible promises.” And yet it is the logic of possible and impossible, of disarming yourself in an attempt to appease your opponent before you’ve met upon the battlefield, that undergirds Warren’s newly released plan to split up the passage of Medicare for All into two steps: First, the enactment of a public option and then, two years later, the passage of a separate bill to achieve single-payer. It signals that Warren believes that only a public option is possible, without requiring her to say so out loud.

Warren has struggled to voice unequivocal support for single-payer. In March, she said there were “different pathways” to universal coverage, including expanding Medicaid and a buy-in mechanism. She seemed to find her bravery in October, when she released her plan to pay for Medicare for All. Questionable as the proposal was—it relied on a regressive “head tax” of employers, instead of progressive payroll taxes—it did tie her definitively to a single-payer health care plan in a way that she had previously avoided. Few could say she didn’t own the policy once she had outlined the taxes that would pay for it, which is arguably the hardest part of the single-payer pitch. Only now, she’s blown all that up.

Warren’s latest plan ostensibly provides for the “transitioning to Medicare for All.” In reality, it is a clearer indication that she has settled for the public option, like most of the rest of the field. Within the first 100 days of her administration, she proposes to pass a bill allowing anyone to buy into Medicare—while providing it free of charge to children under 18 and anyone making less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level ($51,500 for a family of four). Her administration would use budget reconciliation to avoid the Senate filibuster and pass with only 51 votes—though this process would still require Democratic squishes like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to find something resembling conviction.

Warren’s proposal would cap premiums at 5 percent of income—which would be competitive with most, if not all, employer-sponsored insurance; competing plans among the Democratic field peg the cap at 8 percent. The covered benefits would match those enumerated in Bernie Sanders’s Medicare for All bill. Confusingly, she also claims the bill would “gradually decrease to zero” the cost-sharing, like premiums and co-pays, in “subsequent years.” This is essentially saying the public option would morph into free healthcare at some point—like Medicare for All, but without the abolition of private insurance. Who but the obscenely rich would keep paying for private insurance if there’s a free public option that covers everything? And why would such a plan be easier to pass than Medicare for All? Those questions remain unanswered.

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https://newrepublic.com/article/155756/elizabeth-warren-retreats-medicare
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Hmmm... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #2
Some of the irrational hatred toward Warren rings true Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #4
This critiique of Warren, which you should read in its entirety, was writtens by a woman, and highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7
I dont need to read any more "reviews" about Warren. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #12
There are more important factors than just IQ in picking a leader. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20
Agreed wiley Nov 2019 #85
She passes every test for me. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #108
Well squirecam Nov 2019 #111
she has a very narrow constituency Unclephil Nov 2019 #22
Most qualified? How? I understand liking her plans, personality, even ideology, but most emmaverybo Nov 2019 #29
Nope. A one on one debate would show the difference. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #30
Nope.. Biden is the most qualified to be POTUS. Cha Nov 2019 #37
She would "beat him like a drum" in a one on one debate. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #41
No she wouldn't .. Biden will beat the psycho in the WH. Cha Nov 2019 #46
That, if it were to transpire, would not give her greater qualifications for office. No matter how emmaverybo Nov 2019 #48
It would reveal their relative strengths & weaknesses. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #49
She is an academic, an economic scholar. Biden is not. He has a broad range of other strengths emmaverybo Nov 2019 #54
We're not electing a Debater-in-Chief. I've competed in debates, and I don't confuse highplainsdem Nov 2019 #50
Mental acuity, logical reasoning, comportment matter. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #53
They matter most for college debate judges. And Biden's calm, thoughtful, compassionate, and emmaverybo Nov 2019 #55
In the artificial world of debate competition, yes. In the real world, and especially the real highplainsdem Nov 2019 #57
Great response and absolutely true! emmaverybo Nov 2019 #59
Likeability matters most to voters - past elections demonstrate that. N/T Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #102
She wouldn't beat Biden because Biden knows more about governing... Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #66
Yes! This and this, his FP creds, are crucial in the qualifications America and the world need. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #77
Just like her financial bonafides & willingness to take on Wall Street. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #104
Domestic economic policy is important, but foreign policy and relations can make the difference emmaverybo Nov 2019 #110
Her attempt to tell how to pay for M4A would call into question.. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #120
"best and most qualified person running" left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #52
Whether she is the "best and most qualified person running" is your subjective view. That she won't still_one Nov 2019 #106
It HAS to be sexist if its critical! Thats the go-to. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #42
Just because someone doesn't agree with EW Cha Nov 2019 #13
x1000, Cha peggysue2 Nov 2019 #32
Miscalculating on the centerpiece of one's candidacy could be an important failure to consider emmaverybo Nov 2019 #43
Agreed, emmaverybo peggysue2 Nov 2019 #62
This has nothing to do with the fact that Warren is a woman.... George II Nov 2019 #40
Democrats squirecam Nov 2019 #112
I have recently become very critical of Warren after the last debate. bobGandolf Nov 2019 #56
It is not about sexism and I don't hate Warren helpisontheway Nov 2019 #63
Wow SterlingPound Nov 2019 #76
Voicing what millions of Americans, many Democrats, feel borders on Trumpism? Why do you emmaverybo Nov 2019 #78
Biden isnt working toward Universal healthcare and never will be SterlingPound Nov 2019 #79
Reality squirecam Nov 2019 #114
and as long as the dems keep repeating that it will be a self fulfilling prophecy. SterlingPound Nov 2019 #117
Truth squirecam Nov 2019 #121
the truth would be that people like biden profit from the insurance companies and have zero interest SterlingPound Nov 2019 #124
Um squirecam Nov 2019 #113
it is already blown up SterlingPound Nov 2019 #115
And squirecam Nov 2019 #122
It is personal for everyone SterlingPound Nov 2019 #123
This was anything but a "brilliant" move on Warren's part. Read the entire piece. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #6
Folks seem to forget DownriverDem Nov 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #11
How come she can't remember Unclephil Nov 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #25
I do think she is very smart Unclephil Nov 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #33
The electorate is different Unclephil Nov 2019 #34
The rankings on DU and the eventual nominee haven't always matched, to put it mildly. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #35
Actually "undecided" has a wide lead on DU. For a reason, obviously. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #44
Are you certain you know the reason? JudyM Nov 2019 #69
That poster is still here....can you answer the questions? AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #75
Guess not squirecam Nov 2019 #116
That's a question that I would like an answer to. Welcome to DU! Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #103
Like me it was her first presidential vote Unclephil Nov 2019 #107
No warren supporter forgets that SterlingPound Nov 2019 #80
Brilliant people.... boomer_wv Nov 2019 #61
The insurance companies are spending billions to frighten people, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #3
Harry and Louise. Democrats used to recognize it and fight back. blm Nov 2019 #10
Now, many repeat the insurance company nonsense. eom guillaumeb Nov 2019 #14
Insurance companies are the culprit in a number of our societal ills. JudyM Nov 2019 #70
But their propaganda works. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #95
Let's hope there's a real, substantive exploration of this by the media this election cycle! JudyM Nov 2019 #97
Wow. Hope people read the entire thing. The rest of it is even more critical of Warren's highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5
Yep, she's a horrible choice. How dare she even run? Good grief. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #17
I'm a woman who supported HRC and who wants our nominee to be the candidate with the highplainsdem Nov 2019 #36
Thank you. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #45
Settle? Lucky such a qualified, experienced, and knowledgeable candidate as Biden emmaverybo Nov 2019 #39
Then squirecam Nov 2019 #118
I think most people agree that it is unlikely that ANY candidate could pass MFA in year one. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #24
Yet, Bernie's M4A plan doesn't receive the same level scrutiny dlk Nov 2019 #8
Very odd, isn't it? Blaukraut Nov 2019 #19
Hmm... dlk Nov 2019 #26
Elizabeth went after Biden first. The others went after Warren because she was not truthful about helpisontheway Nov 2019 #65
I think Warren was avoiding creating a sound bite for Republicans to use against her in an ad dlk Nov 2019 #67
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #64
Bernie is handling PR and the media very smartly. Joe941 Nov 2019 #72
The difference is Bernie was honest about the middle class being taxed, so no scrutiny warranted. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #105
This was a very necessary pivot, IMO ecstatic Nov 2019 #15
other candidates health care proposals are paper thin and get no scrutiny. so it goes. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #16
Warren has been targeted by the elites. She scares them to death. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #18
Plans that include protecting and improving Obamacare, Medicaid, and Medicare are not thin. These emmaverybo Nov 2019 #86
re: "And why would such a plan be easier to pass than Medicare for All?" thesquanderer Nov 2019 #21
The ability to pass even a plan like this through budget reconcilliation is highly doubtful. tritsofme Nov 2019 #28
Probably helps in Primary, but in General she's still branded as "MFA, even if you don't want it." Hoyt Nov 2019 #31
Unfortunately true, but at least she's responding to reality. Plus OnDoutside Nov 2019 #101
Pramila Jayapal is on board BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #38
Warren is looking for a workable plan to provide affordable health care for all Americans. Nitram Nov 2019 #47
I don't see where she's "backing off", just explaining how to transition from one system Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #51
I am good with this and appreciate her listening to what was being said when standing so strongly Jewls2 Nov 2019 #58
Is this consider a walk back or flip flop? Thought she had strong convictions FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #60
Stand for something ForEverGlades Nov 2019 #71
Is this buying into the Medicare of today forthemiddle Nov 2019 #68
Our taxes already pay for OB/GYN care for poor people. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #73
Just a smal sampling of press coverage on this change Gothmog Nov 2019 #74
Hilarious to see the OP posting Libby Watson articles melman Nov 2019 #81
*I* am "the OP", thank you. One wonders why you don't address "the OP" directly.... George II Nov 2019 #83
lol melman Nov 2019 #84
Nothing to unpack. You bashed me for posting an article from The New Republic.... George II Nov 2019 #88
".. auto kill the messenger.." strikes again.. episode Cha Nov 2019 #98
The New Republic was the first publication to carry an article chronicling the web of Trump's emmaverybo Nov 2019 #89
They've been doing it for more than 100 years (1914), but I guess they're not pure enough for some. George II Nov 2019 #93
Did not know they go back that far. Nothing pure enough for some. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #94
But it's not The Nation. Didn't they scoff at Cha Nov 2019 #99
She saw that it was political suicide. n/t NYMinute Nov 2019 #82
Darn it! I wanted to hear all about it Baked Potato Nov 2019 #87
Ha ha. But any challenge on it brings out a prickly side. She was quite uncomfortable when the emmaverybo Nov 2019 #90
This next debate should be very interesting Baked Potato Nov 2019 #91
Yep squirecam Nov 2019 #119
She should have done that to start with. Blue_true Nov 2019 #92
I agree.. I would have Cha Nov 2019 #100
Physicians for a National Health Program BeckyDem Nov 2019 #96
Warren's plan did not past muster Gothmog Nov 2019 #109
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