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DrFunkenstein

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10. Here's The Trump Family History (Bookmark This For Next Time Pocahontas Comes Up)
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 09:07 PM
Oct 2019

Trump’s grandfather, born Friedrich Drumpf, left Bavaria as a poor, unemployed barber in steerage class to avoid military service in 1885. A resourceful immigrant with no English, he quickly made his fortune providing quarters for gold hunters in the Yukon Territory red light districts.

Now rich, he attempted to leave America to return to Bavaria after meeting his German wife there: “We are loyal Germans and stand behind the high kaiser and the mighty German Reich,” he wrote. He was refused for dodging the draft when he left the first time and was kicked out of Germany with his wife and unborn son, Fred Trump, who was later born in Queens.

Fred Trump, Trump's father, would go on to be arrested in 1927 at a KKK rally on Memorial Day as a "berobed marcher" who refused to disperse. He would go on to build a real estate empire notorious for two things A) profiteering off government-sponsored FHA loans with his mafia-linked partner (ultimately getting called out by the Eisenhower administration) and B) refusing to rent to African Americans. In fact, one-time tenant Woody Guthrie wrote two songs about him, including this nugget: "Beach Haven looks like heaven/ Where no black ones come to roam! / No, no, no! Old Man Trump! /Old Beach Haven ain’t my home!"

Rather than rent to Aftrican-Americans, Fred Trump targeted the rising middle class of Jews in Queens and Brooklyn. Many of them were Holocaust survivors and their families who, understandably, did not want to rent or buy their property from a German. And so Fred Trump lied to their faces and told them he was Swedish.

According to Trump's cousin, John Walter, the lie was directly intended by Fred Trump to enrich the family: "He had thought, ‘Gee whiz, I’m not going to be able to sell these homes if there are all these Jewish people.’”

When working on “The Art of the Deal” in the mid-1980s, Walter relates that Donald Trump asked his father about the decades-long family deception: “Do I have to do this Swedish thing?” The answer can be found in the book where it states that his grandfather “came here from Sweden as a child.”

A 1984 cover story in The New York Times Magazine, a blown-up cardboard copy of which Donald Trump kept in his NYC office, also asserted that “the family is of Swedish descent.” Although Donald Trump had been confronted about the deception, his father’s 1999 obituary in The Daily News called him the son of “a Swedish immigrant father.”

Meanwhile, on a related note, Donald Trump was made a landlord from the time he was 3-years-old and was a millionaire by age 8 from his salary and various other tax-evading gifts from his father. Ultimately, Trump - who collapsed virtually every business he ever touched - received $413 million (adjusted for inflation) from his father's real estate empire over his lifetime, largely while avoiding any inheritance taxes.

Through an astounding variety of schemes to avoid such taxes, Fred Trump cheated the government out of half a billion dollars in taxes.

The "Swedish" Fred Trump was so active in Jewish and Israeli causes that some even believed that he was himself Jewish. This including donating the land for the Beach Haven Jewish Center in Flatbush, New York, supporting Israel Bonds, and serving as the treasurer of an Israel benefit concert featuring American easy-listening performers. During the 1980s, Fred Trump became friends with future Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu, who at the time was the Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations in Manhattan.

One of Fred Trump's tenants was a Jewish doctor who agreed to diagnose Donald Trump with bone spurs "as a favor" to help him avoid service in Vietnam after he could no longer defer using his Ivy League schooling.
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In short, Donald Trump inherited $413 million from his father by knowingly lying to Holocaust survivors and their families. How much did Warren profit from believing her parents?

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Thank you, Hekate. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #1
Thanks back atcha, She Hekate Oct 2019 #36
💕 sheshe2 Oct 2019 #55
for me your final point is the most important. not just trump, i see democrats using republicans Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #2
This is a good post. My great-great grandmother Cassandra was supposed to be PatrickforO Oct 2019 #3
Good post. As for the Pocahontas thing - DURHAM D Oct 2019 #8
My uncle told me that he was 1/4 Cherokee and I was 1/8th. demigoddess Oct 2019 #20
How many generations ago did her ancestors even come here? AdamGG Oct 2019 #28
Nah, cause if you look at a generation as being around 20 years, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #38
It's definitely possible, it's just that a few generations back puts me at Ellis Island AdamGG Oct 2019 #61
Not sure how you figure. I can trace my family back to the 1600s in Europe. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #64
If you even go back 4 generations... MoonchildCA Oct 2019 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #66
There sure are a lot of Irish, too. Every March 17th. blm Oct 2019 #4
You must mean Olaf Drumpf. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #11
Her parents told her that her great great great grandmother Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #5
Uh huh Hekate Oct 2019 #7
So? nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #9
yup, very stupid Skittles Oct 2019 #15
For the sake of being self-righteous, I'd pretend it's relevant as well. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #69
Is that a line from a movie? NT Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #73
Happy 57,000th post. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #6
Thank you Hekate Oct 2019 #40
Here's The Trump Family History (Bookmark This For Next Time Pocahontas Comes Up) DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #10
Grandson Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #18
I want his entire clan of grifters broken down so far they have to go back to the ancestral Yukon... Hekate Oct 2019 #41
I lived in Oklahoma for 20+ years catrose Oct 2019 #12
Interesting. I've heard similar views from other Oklahoma residents. blm Oct 2019 #14
Absolutely agree, Hekate! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #13
Love it about the Neanderthal strain! My mom the genealogist & the entire rest of the family... Hekate Oct 2019 #32
Still makes me laugh peggysue2 Oct 2019 #34
Hey, watch it. I'm one of those Neanderthals too. nolabear Oct 2019 #53
It's just an excuse for racism... Steven Maurer Oct 2019 #16
Bien dit, ma belle! Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #17
Thank you, too Hekate Oct 2019 #42
Congrats on 57,000! And a hearty agreement with your post! KnR. Beartracks Oct 2019 #19
Thanks! Hekate Oct 2019 #43
When DNA tests are mentioned in relation to Native American ancestory it makes me cringe a bit Major Nikon Oct 2019 #21
It's a complicated relationship Boomer Oct 2019 #23
I was born during WWII. iows - I am old. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #24
My maternal grandmother would never admit to being Native American Major Nikon Oct 2019 #44
You make many good points here. And another is that even siblings, other than identical twins, pnwmom Oct 2019 #22
There's a lot going on here. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #25
We share a home state BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #26
Not as simple as people think catchnrelease Oct 2019 #27
My daughter's significant other has a Hispanic name, dark eyes, and black hair. Deeply tanned.... Hekate Oct 2019 #39
both a son and a daughter of mine did 23, as did i. mopinko Oct 2019 #50
All my life I was told I had a Chickasaw great grandmother. rickyhall Oct 2019 #29
Obama's mother is white but Trump knows he was born in Kenya IronLionZion Oct 2019 #30
We always thought my grandfather was part Native American. Snarkoleptic Oct 2019 #31
My ancestor, Susie Redman, was said to be Cherokee. Lunabell Oct 2019 #33
Same here. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #45
Except her family history wasn't legend Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #35
Yep -- and did you see the thread in this forum today with poster after poster going after her... Hekate Oct 2019 #37
Trump's "Swedish" Heritage Wasn't Legend - It Was A LIE DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #49
Indigenous Peoples is better term HockeyMom Oct 2019 #46
Native American Heritage--Im an anthrpolpgist UncleNoel Oct 2019 #47
Is someone doing that here? cwydro Oct 2019 #48
Several someones, ranging from "concerned" to "shocked," & it persists. Irks me every time... Hekate Oct 2019 #57
Thanks! I'll pay more attention. cwydro Oct 2019 #58
The same thing happened to my DIL was shocked at the results. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #51
Thank you, Hekate! BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #52
Nothing "turned out to be legend" jcgoldie Oct 2019 #54
There are dancers in the dance nitpicker Oct 2019 #56
Hekate, even halfway principled people never bought into this Hortensis Oct 2019 #59
I recall the DNA proved Warren correct treestar Oct 2019 #62
Yes. But Trump's slurs & lies entered the public sphere, & now we've got people ... Hekate Oct 2019 #63
And it's aggravating that the Dotard treestar Oct 2019 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #65
I'll admit that I was among those who were annoyed ecstatic Oct 2019 #67
Yes, it's one thing to say that you have a certain heritage, hughee99 Oct 2019 #68
"stop letting goddammed Trump set the goddam narrative about our candidates. Just stop it." TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #70
Who exactly is "pounding" brooklynite Oct 2019 #71
Several threads featuring Warren, given enough time several posters show up with everything from Hekate Oct 2019 #74
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