2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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70. Not the same thing.

Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:03 AM

Aug 2015

And it's not as if it was obvious from the start that McGovern would lose...or that there was any better possible candidae in '72 once Muskie was smeared and Teddy destroyed himself at Chappaquiddick. Humphrey and Scoop Jackson were unacceptable.

Besides, that was just Pauline Kael who said that line...not McGovern's campaign staff.

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Poll: Bernie's lack of Congressional endosements... [View all] MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 OP

PAY ATTENTION TO ME JI7 Aug 2015 #1

I've barely got internet access lately and am missing a great deal Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #3

Long list of endorsements for another candidate AllyCat Aug 2015 #16

Certainly he's not as well-feared. senz Aug 2015 #47

Ok, you've got my attention MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #4

There should be a name for the tactic of getting the first response to an OP rhett o rick Aug 2015 #74

!!! MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #75

There is Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #83

I am glad you brought that up. For some the goal here is to have honest, decent rhett o rick Aug 2015 #95

Wrong Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #96

The point of the OP was certainly about Sen Sanders, it even states his name in rhett o rick Aug 2015 #97

Why? merrily Aug 2015 #23

Sorry, was paying attention to Manny. Have you posted an interesting OP I should look at? Autumn Aug 2015 #28

I would if you really had something to say. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #73

Reflects Corporate money is too afraid of him... cascadiance Aug 2015 #2

Funny they weren't afraid to "pay the price" in '08. They had no problem lunamagica Aug 2015 #14

I know, and look at all the banksters and CEOs he locked up. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #15

They endorsed Obama Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #38

But the meme is that "They want Bernie, but are afraid of the Clinton Machine". Obviously lunamagica Aug 2015 #40

I don't read it that way. Maedhros Aug 2015 #77

Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #84

Dealing with the enormous power of Big Money is not being a shill, any more than Hortensis Aug 2015 #53

Obama had far fewer endorsements than Clinton in 2008 until he started winning. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #43

But Sanders has NOT even ONE congressional endorsment lunamagica Aug 2015 #54

You mean fear of the Clinton machine that came from those 2008 Obama endorsements? jeff47 Aug 2015 #57

It certainly is odd. KMOD Aug 2015 #5

Why haven't members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus endorsed him? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #6

... MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #7

Every year the CPC releases their budget, DU collectively swoons Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #10

LMAO! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #11

Okay. I'm starting to like you almost as much as I like Bernie. senz Aug 2015 #48

Especially since he was one of the founding members of the CPC. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #8

They are scared. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #20

Mark Takano and Mike Honda are not cowards. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #25

Yes they are. short circuit Aug 2015 #31

You obviously have not the slightest clue. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #32

Vote at your own peril. short circuit Aug 2015 #33

Thanks, I take my right to vote seriously. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #35

Leader - whoops, I mean the FOUNDER... short circuit Aug 2015 #36

It's not like the CPC prefers HRC. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #65

What? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #67

I wasn't saying they were sellouts Ken Burch Aug 2015 #68

I am guessing they disagree about the merits. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #69

No idea why the Congressional Progressive Caucus has not wendylaroux Aug 2015 #9

It's because they are Democrats, and Bernie isn't. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #12

For the purpose of the Presidential ballot, Bernie *IS* a Democrat short circuit Aug 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #63

Bernie has never, ever won and then declined a Democratic nomination. Not once. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #72

I'd like to see a link, please... ms liberty Aug 2015 #37

Okay LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #61

Bullshit. Bernie has already made it clear he won't run third-party in the fall. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #71

i don't think he has asked or tried to get their endorsements JI7 Aug 2015 #13

Maybe he's waiting until after the first debate jfern Aug 2015 #18

why would he wait for the debates ? HIllary beat Obama at the debates but Obama got almost all JI7 Aug 2015 #19

Hillary beat Obama at the debates? tularetom Aug 2015 #21

+1 But now, she has a new weapon, JFK's signature hand gesture. merrily Aug 2015 #26

Hillary really got called out for being a warmonger jfern Aug 2015 #22

In 2008, many super delegates who had endorsed Hillary switched to Obama. merrily Aug 2015 #24

Obama is a life long Democrat. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #64

No. it tells me Congress would rather be in status quo mode short circuit Aug 2015 #30

every single person I talk to is voting for Bernie. Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #17

I still can't believe Nixon won redstateblues Aug 2015 #29

And we don't want Nixon to win again. senz Aug 2015 #52

boo Voice for Peace Aug 2015 #60

Not the same thing. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #70

Bernie does not play well with others Gothmog Aug 2015 #27

Bernie does not play well because it's not a fucking game. frylock Aug 2015 #46

If you want to pass legislation, you need to work with other members of congress Gothmog Aug 2015 #55

Clinton and Sanders voted alike 93% of the time.. frylock Aug 2015 #56

Do you want to compare the number of her fellow members of congress who are endorsing her? Gothmog Aug 2015 #90

zero fucks given. frylock Aug 2015 #92

To reiterate.. frylock Aug 2015 #87

And yet Clinton got bills through Congress Gothmog Aug 2015 #89

And so did Sanders frylock Aug 2015 #93

No, it is the real world where the people who know Sanders best do not trust him or endorse him Gothmog Aug 2015 #82

Yeah, everyone in Congress knows what a great idea it is to cross the Clintons. frylock Aug 2015 #86

What is more important? Maedhros Aug 2015 #79

Your judgement of me is meaningless Gothmog Aug 2015 #81

It's meaningful. Maedhros Aug 2015 #85

You sound like you are supporting a candidate who does not get along with his co-workers Gothmog Aug 2015 #88

I'm supporting Sanders because his policies across the board Maedhros Aug 2015 #94

Given the approval rating of Congress.. it may be the best thing for Bernie. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #39

The approval rating for Congress is so low Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #42

As an institution; their poll ratings are dismal, but the people can't elect Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #66

A group of people whose approval rating is in the teens at best? Who gives a FUCK who they endorse? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #41

Needs an option for Kurska Aug 2015 #44

Release the Greenwald! frylock Aug 2015 #45

*HillCo tout their endorsements from the den of thieves aka Congress* whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #49

It's the NEW rightwing meme! Woo hoo! senz Aug 2015 #50

Well, we can trust congress to do what's best for the country....oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #51

Irrelevant to me gollygee Aug 2015 #58

other: doesn't reflect poorly on Sanders who IS more progressive than Congress and does NOT reflect Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #59

It proves that our system is broken and corrupted. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #62

It let's me know he isn't an insider and have made the right choice. mmonk Aug 2015 #76

Reflects poorly on Congress. in_cog_ni_to Aug 2015 #78

Should break down to the same as who supports who here. SouthernProgressive Aug 2015 #80

Not surprising from this "do nothing" congress. With Bernie as President they might actually have to Hiraeth Aug 2015 #91