2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Supporters - Please read my post [View all]rpannier
(24,329 posts)1. People do need to move out of their comfort zone and talk with people with whom they disagree a little more.
2. I know it's difficult for some people to accept, but they just won't accept that HRC (and Bill) are popular in minority communities and not just African-American communities. I was watching The David Pakman show and he read a poll that showed something like 60% of all Democratic Hispanics didn't believe anyone should run against her in the primaries. As I recall the poll had similar numbers among African-Americans
*The poll was from late May or early June.
2. Maybe talking with members in minority communities might give people more insight into why they are supporting HRC, instead of coming here and saying 'When they learn more about Bernie they'll be voting for him.' or 'It's not true. His message has broad support.' etc
I am voting Bernie. But, should he lose to HRC, I have visions of his supporters here at DU looking like the rMoney people after Obama got re-elected. They looked so baffled. And it was because of the cellophane wrap they were encased in.
3. One argument that I haven't been able to counter, no matter how hard I try is, when my friends say they are voting for her (or O' Malley) because they think they are better prepared to sit in the White House and make those decisions and forge those coalitions to make stuff happen.
That's hard to counter because both Clinton and O' Malley have more experience with the executive branch.
*If you have a counter to their argument, I'd love to hear it.*
4. I was unfair to the HRC people (and will edit my above post), it's really a few that say he can't win, not a lot.
I do want to say, I appreciate your post. It brings up things people should be thinking about. It is true that economics and civil rights do not go hand in hand, like some would believe.
My father pointed out that the US experienced huge economic growth in the 40's and 50's. But that didn't equate to gains in equality for minorities, women and single parent households. Many areas of the country kept minorities from experiencing the joys of the boom period