2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Supporters - Please read my post [View all]Prism
(5,815 posts)I know that's not in your OP, but rather in a reply to someone else with this thread, but it's just a non-starter.
LGBTers were told this in regards to President Obama for years. We were called bigots and racists and horrible people and we were just ruining everything for everyone and couldn't we just let people feel the Joy of Barack for ten seconds and why are we helping the right-wing?
And many other horrid things.
I'm glad we didn't hush. I think it would have been morally irresponsible if we had. I think my community's success to date is down to the fact we just haven't ever been a hushed type of folk.
There's a lot I agree with in your OP. I was very troubled by the Sanders' supporter responses to BLM. I pulled back from the entire debate because it left such a sour taste in my mouth. It was the definition of clueless liberals of privilege talking down to an oppressed community. So awfully cringeworthy. However, Clinton supporters have been happily throwing racial bombs and using race as cynically as possible to keep the conflict going. It's in the Clinton campaign's interest to keep racial conflict up and making Sanders defend against it. It also flips the 2008 narrative, where she had the race problem. Now she's the champion. Interesting.
The other day, there was some story about a Bernie gathering, and I realized I had scrolled down to the photos and had started counting non-white faces. Seriously. That is the level and quality of our debate this primary. We're playing Count The Brown People!
Just . . . no. If that's what people want to do, I can't stop them from being horrible people. But, I'm out. I don't want to play these games. I don't want that thinking infecting my own. I'm totally withdrawn from the primary process at this point.
I don't take anyone seriously anymore. At least not here. I don't think 90% of what gets posted here is sincere anymore. I think most of this shit is just plain trolling.
Good OP, but it doesn't tackle the problem. And until there's honesty, nothing will move. And this isn't an environment conducive to honesty.