2016 Postmortem

LAS14

(13,791 posts) Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:11 AM Oct 2016

Maybe we should back off of the self-righteous, black and white... [View all]

... indignation about Trump's prediction of rigging.

Before you knee jerk respond, I DON'T think there's rigging going for Hillary in this particular election.

But it troubles me to jump on the accusation as un-American. During the civil rights movement there were lots of cries about rigging. And they were TRUE. And we did something about it.

I think Trump is wrong, but not particularly dangerous in regard to this specific issue. Let him point to concrete verifiable instances. We'll fix them. Let him refuse to give a concession speech. After Nov 8th who cares what the hell he does?

But the mere whining of a potential loser isn't going to undermine our democracy any more than the calls for justice in our electoral processes did in the 60's or than they do today.

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Maybe we should back off of the self-righteous, black and white... [View all] LAS14 Oct 2016 OP

if we could take him at his word, i might agree with you. however, unblock Oct 2016 #1

Yeah, but who cares? It's just one more Trump lie. And the critics... LAS14 Oct 2016 #3

if there weren't people on the ground motivated by his hate and selfish crap, yeah. unblock Oct 2016 #4

I agree that we shouldn't be silent about that. It's the right thing to focus on. nt LAS14 Oct 2016 #5

I for one am proud of you for backing off A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #2

There was too much chatter about vote rigging during the Democratic Primary, too. randome Oct 2016 #6

He is just making it up with no evidence treestar Oct 2016 #7

So far Trump hasn't presented any evidence True_Blue Oct 2016 #8

"Let him point to concrete verifiable instances." For RIGGING? Hortensis Oct 2016 #9

You don't call literacy tests rigging? You don't call the voters' rights act fixing? LAS14 Oct 2016 #10

Oh, is THAT what you're suggesting? Fooled me. Hortensis Oct 2016 #11

Don't forget about Bullhorn Bill! alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #12

Rubbish. Bill Clinton did not break the law and Hortensis Oct 2016 #17

I know that, and you know that... alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #18

Ah,... Hortensis Oct 2016 #34

Linking Trump's jerkoff horseshit with civil rights ought to work real well here. A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #14

Maybe we should back off from apologizing for Trump and Breitbart's propaganda operation emulatorloo Oct 2016 #13

Like I said, please don't give me a knee jerk reaction. LAS14 Oct 2016 #15

I'm giving you the reaction your OP deserves. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #16

Please don't compare Trump's candidacy to the Civil Rights Movement. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #19

I wasn't. I was asking for Dems to model rational, consistent behavior. LAS14 Oct 2016 #21

Practice what you preach, maybe. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #32

Yep. Epitome of apples and oranges and A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #23

Voter suppression, in terms of restricting who can lovemydog Oct 2016 #20

Thanks! LAS14 Oct 2016 #22

You're welcome. Here's an article by Steny Hoyer lovemydog Oct 2016 #27

I don't think there is rigging going on with respect to arthritisR_US Oct 2016 #24

No need to back off. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #25

Maybe it'll be rigged so Trump wins. I put nothing past the R's and their voting machines. apcalc Oct 2016 #26

You're right, Trump and Dr. Martin Luther King Democat Oct 2016 #28

Ding! A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #29

Trump has not made an accusation, but an excuse. Orsino Oct 2016 #30

I do reject HIS thesis. I worry about the MSM (and DU) thesis... LAS14 Oct 2016 #31

Stop. NurseJackie Oct 2016 #33

Yes, lets join republicans in preemptively delegitimizing Cosmocat Oct 2016 #35