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2016 Postmortem

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emulatorloo

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2. Pro-abortion rights groups give Kaine nod of approval
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jul 2016

Nice try, but nobody's gonna buy your half-truth hit piece.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288952-pro-abortion-rights-group-give-kaine-nod-of-approval


Major pro-abortion rights groups moved quickly to applaud Hillary Clinton's vice presidential pick Sen. Tim Kaine, looking past his more conservative opinions on the issue to downplay what is seen as a big weakness on the left.

NARAL Pro-Choice America sent out a statement immediately after Clinton announced Kaine as her running mate, acknowledging some of his past remarks about personal opposition to abortion and record before reaching the U.S. Senate.


"While Senator Kaine has been open about his personal reservations about abortion, he’s maintained a 100% pro-choice voting record in the U.S. Senate. He voted against dangerous abortion bans, he has fought against efforts to defund Planned Parenthood, and he voted to strengthen clinic security by establishing a federal fund for it," NARAL President Ilyse Hogue said in the statement.
She said that voting for abortion rights despite personal beliefs underlines the group's message.

"This is core part of what it means to be pro-choice – supporting everyone’s individual decision making," the statement read.

As buzz grew about Kaine as a potential VP pick, NARAL was silent on its stance on the Virginia senator, along with several other abortion rights groups. But the issue was seen as a potential hurdle for Kaine — especially in terms of the Clinton ticket locking in progressive voters that may have favored Bernie Sanders in the primary.

"When he was Governor, Tim Kaine took positions we disagreed with and actively campaigned against. We’re pleased that since then, his votes and public statements have been consistently in favor of trusting women to make our own decisions," Hogue said. "And as with all of our allies, we weren’t afraid to voice disagreement with him then and we will not be afraid to disagree, if needed, with him as Vice President."

The group said that it trusts Clinton's decision and lauded her "robust agenda when it comes to preserving and expanding reproductive freedom and justice."

Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards made a brief appearance on MSNBC Friday night to give Kaine her approval, echoing NARAL's statement.

Richards said Kaine holds a 100 percent rating on Planned Parenthood's scorecard for his Senate record and said "he’s been not only a solid vote but really an ally."

When host Rachel Maddow referenced his 2005 stance as governor of Virginia, which aimed to reduce abortion by enforcing existing laws, encouraging abstinence-focused sex education and adoption and opposing partial-birth abortion, Richards said she believes he has "evolved" on the issue.

She criticized GOP nominee Donald Trump's vice presidential pick, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, who has staunchly fought against Planned Parenthood and abortion in his state.

"It is very clear that Secretary Clinton and Tim Kaine are where the American people are," she said. "We have a ticket we can really be proud of and stand behind."

Last week, Kaine sought to reassure Democrats about his stance on the issue, telling CNN: "I have a traditional Catholic personal position, but I am very strongly supportive that women should make these decisions and government shouldn't intrude."

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Like all of them Old Codger Jul 2016 #1
Pro-abortion rights groups give Kaine nod of approval emulatorloo Jul 2016 #2
So, you agree with the policies? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #8
I'm pro-choice and not interested in disingenuous half-truth hit pieces emulatorloo Jul 2016 #14
Where's the 'half truth" in his own, unedited, statement? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #21
You conveniently 'forgot' his pro-choice voting record. That's what makes your post half true. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #29
Kane has a 100% rating score from PP and NARAL Cattledog Jul 2016 #3
That wasn't the question. Do you agree with those policies? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #9
I simply do not have a problem with trying to reduce abortions so long as the option to have one is glennward Jul 2016 #4
Kaine votes pro- choice. all I need to know. OKNancy Jul 2016 #5
I have a tree full of cherries that need picking MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #6
I do not fully agree with him, but IMO his position Trumps any Republican Doodley Jul 2016 #7
As a now VP candidate who does not determine policy on abortion in any state, MichiganVote Jul 2016 #10
Simple question. Do you agree with those policies? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #12
No thank you, show me the relevance as this is at best a hypothetical. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #16
It's a policy statement. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #20
Yeah, I get its a policy statement without a link. But what is its relevance? MichiganVote Jul 2016 #22
There is a link. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #24
There is a link to a web page re: abortion, not to a policy page. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #27
Why does the link page you do provide have a contact source for Kaine's senate page??? MichiganVote Jul 2016 #33
Tim Kaine rocked it today, didn't he. LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #11
Yes he did! greatlaurel Jul 2016 #36
You should add an option to agree with some of the points and disagree with others. Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #13
You just did. Do you agree with the policies? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #17
Except if I am not mistaken, the policy he is advocating with respect to Squinch Jul 2016 #38
Not a black and white agree or disagree for me prarie deem Jul 2016 #15
It seems pretty black & white to me. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #18
Which of the policies named limits a woman's right to abortion? Squinch Jul 2016 #39
Kaine was great today! Lisa D Jul 2016 #19
The only part of abortion rights that is black and white DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #23
There is an option for "I don't care about policy statements" Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2016 #25
That's the thing. I DO care about policy, but nothing you listed is relevant DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #26
"Source: 2005 Gubernatorial campaign website Kaine" annavictorious Jul 2016 #28
Pass, Push Polls are blatantly dishonest. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #30
OK, what am I missing? Squinch Jul 2016 #31
What's to disagree with? joshcryer Jul 2016 #32
More: demmiblue Jul 2016 #34
No links for readers. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #35
I could not disagree more, but then I believe a woman has a right to control CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #37
Which of the policies named in the OP limits a woman's right to control her own body? Squinch Jul 2016 #40
Are you kidding me? Partial birth abortion ban limits a woman's righ to control CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #41
I agree, but his proposal for an exemption for the life of the mother, represents Squinch Jul 2016 #43
"Enforcing the current Virginia restrictions on abortion" progree Jul 2016 #42
Well, but he's the governor. He takes an oath to uphold the laws. If I were to Squinch Jul 2016 #45
Fine, but I'd still want to see what Virginia's restrictions on abortions are, or were at that time progree Jul 2016 #46
In this statement, saying he will work to change the restrictions is exactly what he is doing. Squinch Jul 2016 #47
How do you know? How do you know what restrictions Virginia had on the books in 2005? progree Jul 2016 #48
He wants to get rid of the building restrictions. That is pretty much the thing that has Squinch Jul 2016 #49
Long waiting periods that make it harder for poor women. Requiring admitting privileges for doctors progree Jul 2016 #51
Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, I would agree with you on those. Squinch Jul 2016 #53
Fortunately the VP will never make that decision. wyldwolf Jul 2016 #44
Hell no ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #50
I don't understand the point of this. renie408 Jul 2016 #52
Enough of this crap! Kaine is the VP pick and damn good one. Like it or LUMP it. RBInMaine Jul 2016 #54
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