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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: There is a much biggger picture than just Bernie vs HRC supporters [View all]senz
(11,945 posts)21. Good point, nadin.
I had to look up the term dedazos.
From 1929 to 1982, the PRI won every presidential election by well over 70 percent of the votemargins that were usually obtained by massive electoral fraud. Toward the end of his term, the incumbent president in consultation with party leaders, selected the PRI's candidate in the next election in a procedure known as "the tap of the finger" (Spanish: el dedazo). In essence, given the PRI's overwhelming dominance, the president chose his successor. The PRI's dominance was near-absolute at all other levels as well. It held an overwhelming majority in the Chamber of Deputies, as well as every seat in the Senate and every state governorship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Revolutionary_Party
I do believe the Party establishment chose Hillary years ago. I still don't think Obama particularly likes her. I think he's wary of her, stemming partly from her 2008 ugliness and partly from her clumsy, disastrous rebellions during his presidency (email server, foreign policy blunders).
I also believe the larger establishment (because "party" is most certainly NOT what this is all about) wants Hillary as well, which should be evident to anyone who has viewed her donor list and observed the MSM during this election year.
The establishment absolutely does not want Bernie, because he is here to take on the establishment. There are so many pieces to this, but for one tiny sample, consider Bill Clinton's 1996 Telecom Bill which allowed for even greater concentration and control of the media in the hands of a few humongous corporate monopolies. The heads of those corporations are unimaginably rich and powerful -- and grateful to the Clintons. Bernie, of course, wants to break up the media monopoly so the American people can once again have exposure to a variety of information and opinion. Of course they want to smash him.
So, yes, what Nevada experienced last night was the establishment -- the oligarchy -- exerting control over a political process that threatened to get out of hand, that is, to elect someone the establishment does not want. All the Party minions tore off the mask, and Nevadans got to see the state Democratic Party chair and a U.S. Senator scolding the part of the electorate that did not automatically accept their chosen candidate.
Dedazos.
I smell revolution in the air. I hope it's the peaceful political revolution that the people's candidate has been advocating for the past year. My little old lady self is just a tad intimidated to see it happening, but thank God we have some young, strong, genuine heroes -- smart ones, too -- on our side.
God speed.
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There is a much biggger picture than just Bernie vs HRC supporters [View all]
nadinbrzezinski
May 2016
OP
This is Du, if you are trashing Hillary you are allowed to say anything you want.
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#1
I got it before you were a gleam if you know what I mean...The irony of this
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#6
This is how liberals should greet or point out Bernie or Busters or the handful of Hillary or buster
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#11
My tactic is solely to stop drumpf from power. If you arent doing that, you are very very wrong
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#16
Anyone who thinks Hillary and Drumpf are remotely similar, is a very confused
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#122
If kissing their behinds and adopting a platform that is Bernie's and not hers is earning their vote
politicaljunkie41910
May 2016
#77
bah, where were you when I wanted to make a Shadowrun comment yesterday. No fair. =(
Shandris
May 2016
#3
I have been thinking that if someone were conspiring to divide the Democratic Party,
bemildred
May 2016
#4
Oh I do too, but I wonder at their enthusiasm, they must be fools and ideologues,
bemildred
May 2016
#17
Attacking a popular CA dem is a BRILLIANT strategy right before the CA primary.
JoePhilly
May 2016
#29
Actually it is not insulting to hope that someday you will get the much bigger picture
nadinbrzezinski
May 2016
#68
The police were there because Sanders supporters were throwing chairs and behaving horribly.
Metric System
May 2016
#52
We get it today. Our candidate won. Your candidate registered as a Democrat to piggy back on
Trust Buster
May 2016
#59
You delude yourself into thinking that Hillary supporters give a tinkers damn about what you
Trust Buster
May 2016
#66
One big mistake of Hillary supporters is thinking Bernie supporters as unemployed lazy bums.
B Calm
May 2016
#85
Too far to the east and north of my beat... but I do report on this shit
nadinbrzezinski
May 2016
#86
90% of black voters voting D in every election doesn't equal the party base?
YoungDemCA
May 2016
#130