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Showing Original Post only (View all)UPDATE: Very Bad Development In Hillary's Email Investigation: She Knew It Was A Security Risk [View all]
Last edited Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:24 AM - Edit history (2)
In 2009, Hillary was Denied a Secure Blackberry Because Of Security Risks
Based on this information, she can't claim ignorance of risk or comprehension of the circumstances. She knowingly put national secrets at risk for the sake of her own convenience and hubris. She used her private blackberry via her private server to communicate official and sometimes secret information.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/emails-clinton-sought-secure-smartphone-rebuffed-nsa-202524970--politics.html
Emails: Hillary Clinton asked for a BlackBerry in 2009, but the NSA said no
Newly released emails show a 2009 request to issue a secure government smartphone to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was denied by the National Security Agency.
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We began examining options for (Secretary Clinton) with respect to secure Blackberry-like communications, wrote Donald R. Reid, the departments assistant director for security infrastructure. The current state of the art is not too user friendly, has no infrastructure at State, and is very expensive.
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According to a summary of the meeting, the request was driven by Clintons reliance on her Blackberry for email and keeping track of her calendar. Clinton chose not to use a laptop or desktop computer that could have provided her access to email in her office, according to the summary.
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The departments designated NSA liaison, whose name was redacted from the documents, expressed concerns about security vulnerabilities inherent with using Blackberry devices for secure communications or in secure areas.
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Clinton campaign spokesman Jesse Ferguson did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment Wednesday.
The FBI is investigating whether sensitive information that flowed through Clintons email server was mishandled. The State Department has acknowledged that some emails included classified information, including at the top-secret level. The inspectors general at the State Department and for U.S. intelligence agencies are separately investigating whether rules or laws were broken.
Newly released emails show a 2009 request to issue a secure government smartphone to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was denied by the National Security Agency.
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We began examining options for (Secretary Clinton) with respect to secure Blackberry-like communications, wrote Donald R. Reid, the departments assistant director for security infrastructure. The current state of the art is not too user friendly, has no infrastructure at State, and is very expensive.
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According to a summary of the meeting, the request was driven by Clintons reliance on her Blackberry for email and keeping track of her calendar. Clinton chose not to use a laptop or desktop computer that could have provided her access to email in her office, according to the summary.
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The departments designated NSA liaison, whose name was redacted from the documents, expressed concerns about security vulnerabilities inherent with using Blackberry devices for secure communications or in secure areas.
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Clinton campaign spokesman Jesse Ferguson did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment Wednesday.
The FBI is investigating whether sensitive information that flowed through Clintons email server was mishandled. The State Department has acknowledged that some emails included classified information, including at the top-secret level. The inspectors general at the State Department and for U.S. intelligence agencies are separately investigating whether rules or laws were broken.
Update: This story is breaking across all news organizations. This is a significant development in the investigation and the discussion is changing from will she be charged to what kind of charges at this point.
CBS News:
Emails show NSA rejected Hillary Clinton's request for secure smartphone
Fortune:
Hillary Clinton Was Denied Secure Smartphone Before Setting Up Private Email Server
TIME:
Hillary Clinton's 2009 Request for Secure Smartphone Rejected by NSA
The Hill:
NSA dismissed Clinton request for 'secure' BlackBerry
NY Post:
NSA denied Hillary's 2009 request for secure smartphone
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UPDATE: Very Bad Development In Hillary's Email Investigation: She Knew It Was A Security Risk [View all]
berni_mccoy
Mar 2016
OP
Your desire for this to destroy her political career will not happen. She is
Jackie Wilson Said
Mar 2016
#1
Jackie you act like this is nothing. So what if...what if your loving relative let's say
bkkyosemite
Mar 2016
#9
Nobody is destroying Hillary's political career except Hillary...She demonstrates poor judgement
AzDar
Mar 2016
#52
Your desire to have her for POTUS is making you accept unethical or possibly criminal behavior.
thereismore
Mar 2016
#140
I know. It is like a hungry pack of animals circling. It is not becoming. Nt
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#213
Alternatively, give the Republicans most of what they really want, and they'll make decent partners
Babel_17
Mar 2016
#62
Like entitlement , embellishing and detracting from the Truth to win at any cost ?
orpupilofnature57
Mar 2016
#54
She wanted those emails on her private server so Billy boy could see them too...
bkkyosemite
Mar 2016
#4
The private takeover of a government apparatus. I'm sure there's a word for that...
arcane1
Mar 2016
#227
Ugly. The people reject your candidate, so now you're laying your hopes on a right-wing witch hunt.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#6
Why would you celebrate the fact that some folks were arbitrarily punished/silenced?
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#91
So the jury system is broke if Hillary fans get banned??? I get it. Skinner just happens.....
Logical
Mar 2016
#94
it's a hunt for the truth; our politicians should be truthful; should not matter who seeks the truth
amborin
Mar 2016
#13
Just the majority of us, hopefully you'll be able to hear and appreciate the silence
synergie
Mar 2016
#96
Are you claiming these organizations are right wing partisan "witch-hunters? 3 choices-yes-no-evade
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#34
I think he's claiming that the lies told about these investigations are very much being
synergie
Mar 2016
#102
No, I know I can because I don't read partisan sources (why do you and what are they saying?)
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#147
Everything is! Except if it comes from a David Brock Website, How often Must ve be told?
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#224
I see so many outdated talking points on this thread. Where have they been the last couple months?
leveymg
Mar 2016
#124
That's what makes me so angry. Apparently being a celebrity means the rules no longer apply to you.
Kentonio
Mar 2016
#191
LOL, the Indictment Fairy will save the day for Bernie, just clap louder! nt
geek tragedy
Mar 2016
#10
Maybe they should write out indictments and put them under their pillows when they go to sleep.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#36
FBI is not investigating Clinton. RW are. Meh.... oh. And Sanders supporters. Hoping.
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#20
Are you claiming these organizations are right wing partisan "witch-hunters? 3 choices-yes-no-evade
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#37
You "take it" wrong. The FBI is not investigating Clinton or the other four. The system.
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#39
Who is responsible for the choice of the system poorly chosen? I also believe you have no basis
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#44
FBI said they were not investigating Clinton or the other four SOS that practiced email the same way
seabeyond
Mar 2016
#45
She was involved with practices regarding her server than none of the others had.
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#60
I only have to read the news, you can be as well informed yourself without any special help.
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#50
Yes, but to be well informed, you need to have the ability to distinguish between
synergie
Mar 2016
#99
On the emails? The place that had to walk back its stories on the subject due to
synergie
Mar 2016
#145
She isn't going to be indicted and we the voters have found the Vermont independent wanting...
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#30
She will end the primary season with an overwhelming popular vote and pledged delegate lead.
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#138
I believe it's a violation of DU rules to suggest another poster is a troll...
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#75
Were you doing that for your own edification when you suggested I was a troll?
DemocratSinceBirth
Mar 2016
#86
And maybe competence was referred to, as well as trusting people to stick to regulations
Babel_17
Mar 2016
#70
I actually sort of remember Karl Rove being involved in keeping Blackberry around
Babel_17
Mar 2016
#110
Unfortunately he is completely wrong-headed on govt. policy for strong encryption.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#182
heck, I wouldn't object to them cutting a deal and allowing Martin O'Malley to..
grasswire
Mar 2016
#121
Very interesting. How many Hillary supporters have referred to her as a prophet, or Gandhi?
Amimnoch
Mar 2016
#220
Yes you have to believe in a fairy because Clinton is above the Law right?
silenttigersong
Mar 2016
#136
I think the Secretary of State and former SOSs shouldn't have had private email servers
Rosa Luxemburg
Mar 2016
#152
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.
George II
Mar 2016
#190
And a few more pro-Bernie OPs gets pushed a little deeper down the GDP stack.
JoePhilly
Mar 2016
#197
You should write an OP on this. Definitely dangerous handling of State Information
berni_mccoy
Mar 2016
#215
Actually the voters do. And if FBI recommends indictment and no charges come out of DoJ
berni_mccoy
Mar 2016
#214