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In reply to the discussion: POC aren't buying the "Bernie's been fighting for you all his life so you should vote for him" claim [View all]The great Hillary can only get 8% of the few Dem voters in SC to vote for her. Something is seriously wrong with the party. Could be they do not want people voting?
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POC aren't buying the "Bernie's been fighting for you all his life so you should vote for him" claim [View all]
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
OP
Nope. We had half the turnout for the 08 primary that we ended up with in the GE
Lucinda
Feb 2016
#224
If fighting for them and us white working people isn't enough, what do they want?
brewens
Feb 2016
#13
No, you're not. We in the AA forum are very receptive to honest and respectful dialogue
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#59
I'm familiar with the won't take yes for an answer tactic. How about yourself? Where are you
brewens
Feb 2016
#123
Fighting means, among other things, doing something above and beyond just voting or giving
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#137
He could do those things and they would be good, but that would not be fighting for civil rights
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#179
Casting a vote in Congress is not "fighting" no matter how much you try to so characterize it
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#65
Maybe not so meaningless. We'll see on Tuesday. The lady I paraphrased lives in AL.
ucrdem
Feb 2016
#165
Casting a vote is much better than running a race baiting primary campaign against the
Chakab
Feb 2016
#97
I agree, that is why I wrote an OP about those that would divide us in the service of the wealthy as
Dragonfli
Feb 2016
#129
It's campaign politics. Extreme anger does not a result from anything that Bernie has
GoneFishin
Feb 2016
#132
Apart from being one of the very few whites to campaign to try and get Jesse Jackson to be president
Kentonio
Feb 2016
#230
No, that's not what I mean. Voting no on the Iraq War wasn't going out on a limb
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#162
It's not very difficult when the majority of your constituency agrees with you.
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#182
The majority would be if we followed policies advocated by one of the candidates.
Vincardog
Feb 2016
#35
No, their candidate would further "reform" welfare so they wouldn't even get that - EOM
dreamnightwind
Feb 2016
#42
Whether it's 'working' or not, it's still true. People will do with it what they want.
99th_Monkey
Feb 2016
#8
I'd like to hear some of the stories where HILLARY fought for ANY of us.....like EVER.
virtualobserver
Feb 2016
#12
She pretends to care about black people when it matters. Apparently, that's much more important
Chakab
Feb 2016
#102
No, it's not true. And you saying it over and over again won't make it true.
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#20
I didn't say you are doing that. My point is that that is the attitude of many of your fellow
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#125
Its just that much harder with the full media blackout. It means we have to work 4 times harder to
litlbilly
Feb 2016
#66
I think Black folks already have their minds made up and it doesn't matter what is said or done.
Bread and Circus
Feb 2016
#21
Or you could try considering the possibility that your "truth" isn't true at all
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#29
Look, you folks linked a bunch of articles which had a lot of quotes that basically indicated people
Bread and Circus
Feb 2016
#147
So...just because people are Black I can't disagree with their political choices and think they...
Bread and Circus
Feb 2016
#169
Too bad they refuse to let YOU determine for them what's in their best interest
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#37
You're not "aching for answers" - you're pissed off because black voters have decided to vote
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#247
How do you think he could address the black community without ignoring the whites?
passiveporcupine
Feb 2016
#192
Maybe I'm being tonedeaf, but I'm not hearing many answers to my questions
passiveporcupine
Feb 2016
#215
His record is clear and consistent, they are simply buying a falsely labeled product insteed
Dragonfli
Feb 2016
#36
Funny how just about the only people who seem to think this are white Bernie supporters-most of whom
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#58
Yes, because noticing that someone is appealing almost exclusively to white people is "bringing race
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#81
If a black candidate only appealed to black voters, they would not be taken seriously
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#117
not just misunderstanding, many here flat out said people were lying that they were offended.
bettyellen
Feb 2016
#225
Much love to you and Effie, too! You guys are true fighters. Don't give up standing for what you
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#116
You shouldn't owe an explanation. And that's the point many of us POC's have been trying to make.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#105
Actually, that's not the point. The issue is that plenty of people like the OP are actually angry
Chakab
Feb 2016
#140
Who says I'm not angry at HRC? I don't support either candidate. I've said this many times.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#153
My post was an attack on the OP's logic not you directly. Sorry, if it didn't come
Chakab
Feb 2016
#158
Ah, no worries. I understand that this primary season brings on much passion. I wish some of it
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#160
I'm not enthusiastic about this election at all. I just really don't like the Clintons, and I
Chakab
Feb 2016
#177
Unfortunately the Party decided who should be the next President, but not everyone ...
slipslidingaway
Feb 2016
#148
No one disagrees that votes should be earned. Both candidates have to earn those votes as well.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#151
The structure, like it or not, is about earning delegates and Money to run ads and buy ...
slipslidingaway
Feb 2016
#161
"Isn't it time to try a different tactic for attracting the black vote?"
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#121
I actually agree with all of this, except for your last statement, which is a matter of opinion...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#159
Not all older folks are for Clinton, on the contrary many are tired of for voting for ...
slipslidingaway
Feb 2016
#164
Thats great. But the NAACP only scores whether he voted the way they wanted on particular bills
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#185
I'm neither bitter nor angry and I've said nothing that should make you think I am
EffieBlack
Feb 2016
#183
Why? Because it isn't reaching those in the reddest state in the union? Gimme a break.
Bubzer
Feb 2016
#184
Effie specifically mentioned the black vote. Why in the world do you think she's "speaking" for you?
Number23
Feb 2016
#229
It's clear that she's specifically talking about black people. No one has applied the "fighting
Number23
Feb 2016
#255
I like Bernie, but his criticism of Hillary's "clinging" to Obama's record was a mistake
CreekDog
Feb 2016
#233
It was a slap in the face for a person's life work. Wish someone would share the real reason.
Vinca
Feb 2016
#244
Whether anyone "buys" it or not, Bernie Sanders has indeed been "fighting for you" all his life ...
Martin Eden
Feb 2016
#249