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2016 Postmortem

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:10 AM Feb 2016

On Huerta [View all]



Yes videos have emerged. I will give her the benefit of the doubt. She did hear English Only, or words to that effect, from a Clinton supporter. She s on the other side of the room. It is loud, it is chaotic (I suspect by design)

Here is who I blame...the state party. They knew this was likely going to have a lot of Spanish speakers. Having a neutral translator as the rules state was the right thing to do. By the way, they did not allow the other partisan, a Sansders supporter, to translate either. So that was handled in a non partisan way. And yes, choice of words in a translation can indeed change meaning.

Huerta has walked her tweet back by the way.

But this storm in a tea cup tells me something else. One side is willing to exploit any and all racism to it's advantage. I am not surprised, but if Clinton wins, people will stay home. In my state it does not matter...in swing states it might. And I will blame the racist politics of personal destruction for that. Nope, not Sanders, the Clintons. In fact, the rancor I see here is deep enough, that I expect Clinton to lose the general due to 1990s politics.

Sanders has a better chance, but this is still the Rs to lose. Statistically it is their turn. Yes, Americans tend to elect the other party every 8 years, with a few exceptions.

On the bright side, DC is such a mess that I expect the next president to not be able to do anything with congress...so there you have it. So unless you elect a congress to go with the presidency, I will just laugh at whoever wins. That includes Trump.

Oh and I went and said it in August at RSD that I expected Trump to be the nominee...you know what? I can see him winning the presidency. Part of it is this lovely idiocy. There are smart politics, there are dumb politics...this is really dumb politics in the grander scheme of things.

So all I can say is please proceed. Shoot the party you all love in the foot. I personally need to order some barrels of ink at this point. Should be entertaining.
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On Huerta [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 OP
I agree. After this latest batch of divisive race politics, PatrickforO Feb 2016 #1
+1,000,000 n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #4
Some of this is bluster nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #5
If Clinton gets the nomination, I suspect that there will be a record number of Democrats who Zorra Feb 2016 #18
I feel the same nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #22
Doesn't matter in my state either. There's no chance of Clinton winning here. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #23
Yes. More each day. 840high Feb 2016 #55
For me that line never 840high Feb 2016 #54
How do you know that it was a Clinton supporter yelling "English Only"? eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #2
You can go look at the video posted elsewhere on this site nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #3
My ... That's impressive. You can ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #6
I can indeed nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #7
How would I know that HRC supporters were issued ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #37
Photos are all over the Twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #43
Perhaps you can/will post a link? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #61
The rules specifically call for a neutral person nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #65
What shitty game would that be ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #68
She did not quite scream that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #69
there is a longer clearer video than this woman's that shows the sequence... bettyellen Feb 2016 #46
And the moderator also said no to a sanders supporter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #49
the moderator would have been fine with Huerta with or without another translator.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #51
Neutral. Neither was neutral nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #53
Do you have a link to the state rules for a neutral translator? tammywammy Feb 2016 #73
They have been posted elsewhere nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #74
So you don't have a link? tammywammy Feb 2016 #75
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #78
I don't know what spurned such a response tammywammy Feb 2016 #83
If I told you the sky is blue and provided evidence it would not suffice nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #84
Well if she had a red shirt on... She could have been a nurse. Agschmid Feb 2016 #8
Or they were issued to supporters in the morning nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #9
... Agschmid Feb 2016 #11
Hey it is not my fault there are photos of this all over the twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #13
You see to have missed my point... Agschmid Feb 2016 #14
I hope you enjoy the Trump presidency nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #16
What a foolish post. Agschmid Feb 2016 #17
Trump will be the nominee nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #19
Ummm... Agschmid Feb 2016 #20
If you support these antics you are nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #21
And where did I say I support them? Agschmid Feb 2016 #30
I made the assumption given your posting history nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #38
I have been denouncing them. Agschmid Feb 2016 #59
It is not about anonymous posters nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #62
'Bernie supporters are dumb kids who support a racist candidate!'....But hey guys.. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #34
It is gobsmacking at times, isn't it? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #40
I can only assume that these folks think it's only the primary that matters. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #41
That's what I said. JRLeft Feb 2016 #48
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #52
Yah except that is no where close to what I said. Agschmid Feb 2016 #56
What she said was "Bernie is English only, Bernie is English only". eomer Feb 2016 #63
exploitation is the brock/clinton thing to do tk2kewl Feb 2016 #10
This I don't understand at all. WHY would anyone, running for office or not, willingly polly7 Feb 2016 #12
It is the 1990s all over again nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
Yes. Kind of like voting for a war that kills, maims, and sickens hundreds of thousands.. RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #24
As I Stated In My Post Below... Something Will Blow! n/t ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #36
Have you watched this video nadin ? It's long but very clear Autumn Feb 2016 #25
Yes nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #27
This is just like Sanders' staff stealing Clinton's data. Somehow, it's turned around to her fault. Hoyt Feb 2016 #26
State rules require a neutral person nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #28
She and the Clintons are even now. eilen Feb 2016 #29
That I care little for nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #33
I agree totally Tom Rinaldo Feb 2016 #31
I'm Afraid, Or Maybe It May Be A Good Thing But I Predict... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #32
You are not alone nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #35
I DO NOT Doubt At All That There Is REAL ANGER In This Country... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #39
Yup. This anger is what is driving trump supporters nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #42
You put that so well and I want to thank you ChiciB1. Thank-you! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #66
You Are Quite Welcome... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #76
I blame HRC supporters who are so eager to smear their opposition... Marr Feb 2016 #44
What you are describing is the politics of personal destruction nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #45
The party establishment would prefer to lose with HRC than win with Sanders. Marr Feb 2016 #47
There is something to that nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #50
I Must Interject! There IS NOTHING "Same Old" This Time Around... ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #79
They did this in the 1990s, so this is not new nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #82
We saw 2 posters yesterday 840high Feb 2016 #58
She has yet to retract her initial claim. An honorable person would've done that. frylock Feb 2016 #57
She did walk it back last night nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #60
That tweet is still up at the top of her feed with nearly 4000 retweets. frylock Feb 2016 #64
She did retract it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #67
The reaction over this follows the SAME PATTERN. joshcryer Feb 2016 #70
Try to once again keep up nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #71
Yeah, nice excuse. joshcryer Feb 2016 #72
Really? How low can you go? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #77
You are the one saying Clinton loses in November. joshcryer Feb 2016 #80
I am saying this as a poltical observer` nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #81
I really don't care what you think of me. joshcryer Feb 2016 #85
You right, you first accuse me of being pro trump nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #87
I didn't call you pro Trump. joshcryer Feb 2016 #89
good post thx Vattel Feb 2016 #86
You welcome nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #88
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