China Cases Top 20,000; U.S. Braces for Pandemic: Virus Update

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45. I know, but there is plenty of reason to think China is fudging numbers

because they mismanaged the initial numbers infected and the virus exploded. What does it say when you just send bodies to be cremated for free-unusual, with no samples taken for testing, who died from pneumonia after a new virus is discovered. Those doctors, I think, had to be told not to take samples. In other words, they didn't want to know. And that comes down to hospital policy. It's simple enough to save blood/tissue for diagnostic testing. Even after the number exploding, the Chinese were reluctant to acknowledge that it was spreading human to human. There is just no way you get those numbers blowing up like that in animal to human cases. The ironic part is that in Wuhan, there is a research facility which should have been able to identify rather rapidly, that this was a coronovirus. The numbers for SARS-(which this virus is similar to)


1. Timeline

November 16, 2002

The initial cases of SARS appear in the Guangdong Province, South China.

February 14, 2003

A small notice in the Weekly Epidemiological Record reports 305 cases and 5 deaths from an unknown acute respiratory syndrome which occurred between 16 November and 9 February 2003 in the Guangdong Province, China. (WHO WER 7/2003) The illness is spread to household members and healthcare workers. The Chinese Ministry of Health informs the WHO that the outbreak in Guangdong is clinically consistent with atypical pneumonia. Further investigations rule out anthrax, pulmonary plague, leptospirosis, and hemorrhagic fever.

Two weeks later, at the end of February, the Chinese Ministry of Health reports that the infective agent causing the outbreak of the atypical pneumonia was probably Chlamydia pneumoniae. (WHO WER 9/2003)http://sarsreference.com/sarsref/timeline.htm

The reality was that China tried to cover it up-https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/stopping-the-coronavirus-have-we-learned-the-lessons-from-sars/

The first SARS cases were identified in southern China in November 2002, but the world knew almost nothing until a retired Chinese army doctor blew the whistle in early 2003. The virus was already coursing worldwide by then. Other nations slammed China for covering up information, which it later admitted it had done, supposedly to keep people calm. Ultimately, the national government apologized, and politicians and officials at various levels were fired or resigned.
This time around, officials in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the new coronavirus was first detected, downplayed the risks. They did not institute screening measures until a month after the first case was found, according to CNN. During that time, citizens were reportedly arrested for spreading “rumors” about the start of a new disease like SARS, and journalists who were trying to report on the outbreak later said they were detained or threatened. Finally, President Xi Jinping ordered that the virus be “resolutely contained.” Although health authorities had already shut down the animal market, and the genome sequences had already been shared, much greater preventive actions suddenly began.

I don't believe a word the Chinese govt says.


3 months, 305 cases, supposedly, vs the new strain, which in one month, infected hundreds, if not thousands. Does that move like a virus that needs to mutate from animal to human, to human to human? Doesn't look like it. But I am no virologist.