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Amber Guyger found guilty of murder [View all]

Source: CNN

A jury has found former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger guilty of murder after less than 24 hours of deliberation.

Guyger was indicted last year after fatally shooting her unarmed neighbor, Botham Jean, in his apartment, which she said she mistook as hers.

Jurors were given the option of finding Guyger guilty of the lesser offense of manslaughter. With the murder conviction, Guyger, 31, now faces up to life in prison.

The verdict follows a case that has captured national attention and sparked outrage.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/amber-guyger-botham-jean-verdict/index.html?adkey=bn

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Amber Guyger found guilty of murder [View all] George II Oct 2019 OP

YES! no_hypocrisy Oct 2019 #1

+1. Jurors were probably thinking: "So anyone can go into my house and shoot me dead?" dalton99a Oct 2019 #13

no kidding. The defense probably offended everyone on the jury with that shit. TeamPooka Oct 2019 #74

I am very surprised. I thought they'd at least go for manslaughter, but this sends a MESSAGE! hlthe2b Oct 2019 #14

the victim's family's lawyer said the jury saw that she saw a black man and shot onetexan Oct 2019 #17

Well said, onetexan. :( Cha Oct 2019 #106

"This verdict is for Trayvon Martin," he said, "it's for Michael Brown, it's for Sandra Bland... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #85

Wow.. Good on Crump.. Cha Oct 2019 #107

There is some justice in the world. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #2

Just saw the WaPo breaking BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #3

Good irisblue Oct 2019 #4

100% agree. nt cstanleytech Oct 2019 #6

Yep (n/t) PJMcK Oct 2019 #31

+1 myohmy2 Oct 2019 #110

I am actually shocked that they convicted her of murder. cstanleytech Oct 2019 #5

Me too irisblue Oct 2019 #8

Indeed, I wasn't surprised liberalhistorian Oct 2019 #47

I was pleasantly surprised that she was convicted. pazzyanne Oct 2019 #70

agree, the castle doctrine does not apply in this case and should not have been allowed as a defense onetexan Oct 2019 #99

Me too. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #11

The Defense strategy was to take Manslaughter off the table exboyfil Oct 2019 #12

Calculated gamble that they lost. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #53

I wouldn't say shocked myself, because being a woman sometimes ends in harsher treatment by juries. Texin Oct 2019 #23

Agreed. Wonder what degree of murder if any and MarcA Oct 2019 #28

First degree murder cannabis_flower Oct 2019 #37

Thank you for the clarification. n/t MarcA Oct 2019 #42

Wow!!! I thought it would be second degree LeftInTX Oct 2019 #89

texas doesn't have murder one and two imavoter Oct 2019 #90

I had no idea!!! LeftInTX Oct 2019 #92

neither did I imavoter Oct 2019 #94

Texas law on Homicides... PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #69

I checked wiki and it says she could get as little as 5 years if I am reading it correctly which cstanleytech Oct 2019 #83

Thank you for posting this. n/t MarcA Oct 2019 #87

My thinking was that they'd convict her for manslaughter too, not murder. George II Oct 2019 #51

I just watched the prosecution closing argument Kittycow Oct 2019 #73

What more could they have charged her with? whopis01 Oct 2019 #111

I thought it would be manslaughter LeftInTX Oct 2019 #91

clearly they didn't believe her qazplm135 Oct 2019 #7

At least that magic liberalhistorian Oct 2019 #49

Only white MEN are still guaranteed that privilege, sad to observe. flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #68

Well, she did herself NO favors when she complained on the stand Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #105

Whoa, she actually said that liberalhistorian Oct 2019 #119

Yes, she did. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #125

Good. The Mouth Oct 2019 #9

It won't be cannabis_flower Oct 2019 #41

Personally, I think 'intent" is bullshit. The Mouth Oct 2019 #58

I believe French law has a long history of special circumstances bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #65

I know, right? forgotmylogin Oct 2019 #67

Absolutely LeftInTX Oct 2019 #93

next time vent something halfway intelligent stopdiggin Oct 2019 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #10

Her remarks about living with the situation stood out to me, too. Jedi Guy Oct 2019 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #22

I kinda think her attorneys didn't try for a plea deal LeftInTX Oct 2019 #95

She didn't want a plea bargain obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #116

At least she has an opportunity to live the rest of her life, unlike her victim. George II Oct 2019 #25

I could tell when she pretended to cry TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #81

Accountability.. imagine that. That's encouraging! (For once). deurbano Oct 2019 #15

Just verdict. Seedersandleechers Oct 2019 #16

this police lady wasn't drunk. She was busy sexting with a coworker. onetexan Oct 2019 #18

I think they were arguing, or there had been a quarrel earlier in evening. Texin Oct 2019 #24

We don't know that because she was never tested that night Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #33

According to the article i read, facts were that Guyger had just finished a 13.5-hour shift, so most onetexan Oct 2019 #46

I would consider that the reason she ultimately got convicted was what she did/didn't do after PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #52

i think what she did/didn't do after she shot contributed to, but wasn't the main reason onetexan Oct 2019 #56

She may have freaked out afterward LeftInTX Oct 2019 #102

This -- called her partner/booty call first, then 911 obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #117

That (and this case) is a reminder why it's a good idea to lock your door even if you are in PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #35

Unfortunately, with police everywhere now, and with pretty much free reign Scalded Nun Oct 2019 #38

I got the impression the door had issues LeftInTX Oct 2019 #103

Looking further into this I found... PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #112

That's the correct verdict. sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #19

surprising, but the right verdict. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #20

It's awful, but it's the right call. I'm watching local, live tv imavoter Oct 2019 #26

Some of those police departments pile overtime on officers instead of hiring for staff shortages yaesu Oct 2019 #27

Police love the OT to inflate their pensions too TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #60

I'm glad. Her story stunk big time from day one. You KNOW when you are in your home. flying_wahini Oct 2019 #29

She did park on his floor though imavoter Oct 2019 #45

Unlikely based on that she apparently did park on the wrong floor and after the shooting PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #55

A year ago a Dallas County jury convicted a Balch Springs cop of murder. argyl Oct 2019 #30

She heard something before opening the door. imavoter Oct 2019 #32

Deleting text messages for good is hard and doing so just makes you look guilty. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #43

Especially texting while he lay dying. N/t imavoter Oct 2019 #48

well, they can be retrieved, even after deleted... imavoter Oct 2019 #127

It's never been clear to me HOW she opened the door rocktivity Oct 2019 #62

There was either an issue with his lock or imavoter Oct 2019 #75

I'm talking about ANY kind of relationship or contact rocktivity Oct 2019 #84

if you want to go back and look at testimony, there's discussion about the latch etc. imavoter Oct 2019 #88

that's why she's in jail imavoter Oct 2019 #126

Apparently the door hadn't closed properly... PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #113

I also do not believe she heard "movements" obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #118

Justice was served. WestLosAngelesGal Oct 2019 #34

Some people just aren't cut out for this type of work... SKKY Oct 2019 #36

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! cyndensco Oct 2019 #39

Castle doctrine doesn't work when you go into someone else's castle IronLionZion Oct 2019 #40

Oh, thank God!! liberalhistorian Oct 2019 #44

His door had a RED doormat. zentrum Oct 2019 #50

Of course they do the right thing when the cop is female! Pisces Oct 2019 #54

Catch-me-up: Was she an "ex-cop" at the time of the shooting? NurseJackie Oct 2019 #57

I believe she was fired afterward rocktivity Oct 2019 #63

Thanks. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #64

She was a cop at the time. Amimnoch Oct 2019 #72

Thank you. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #79

She was in uniform, just off duty. literally drove across the street to come home imavoter Oct 2019 #76

Thank you. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #80

I live in Dallas... BluNoMatterHu Oct 2019 #59

Whatever bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #61

Guilty was the correct verdict. I watched the entire trial. Guyger had options when she heard iluvtennis Oct 2019 #66

+1 -- this n/t imavoter Oct 2019 #78

It was also telling that she provided no CPR or even attempted to revive him Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #114

Exactly. iluvtennis Oct 2019 #115

It was murder, saying oops I thought I was in my house ain't gonna beachbumbob Oct 2019 #77

Is there an automatic appeal? Croney Oct 2019 #82

i heard a on Dallas news channel there is. onetexan Oct 2019 #98

There are only automatic appeals for death penalty cases n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2019 #123

WOW Raine Oct 2019 #86

GOOD. She's a cop, she should have had enough situational awareness due to her training Neema Oct 2019 #96

That's a relief. It should have been a no-brainer, but it seldom is. Nitram Oct 2019 #97

anyone know what the ethnic makeup of the jury was? WFAA said it was 8 women 4 men onetexan Oct 2019 #100

I asked that on another thread and was avebury Oct 2019 #101

wow.. thanks, onetexan. Cha Oct 2019 #108

Amber Guyger found guilty of murder. LenaBaby61 Oct 2019 #104

I wonder if she were a male if she'd been found guilty. I'd like to believe "he" would have been ... marble falls Oct 2019 #109

The judge offered her a bible JonLP24 Oct 2019 #121

That struck me, too. marble falls Oct 2019 #122

Even during the victim impact statements, she was hugged by the victim's brother. n/t OnlinePoker Oct 2019 #124

she was fucking careless and deserves her sentence. imavoter Oct 2019 #128

I never been in a murder trial but I never seen a judge do that before JonLP24 Oct 2019 #129

the defence had left it up to the jury imavoter Oct 2019 #130

I know JonLP24 Oct 2019 #131

Followup: Amber Guyger sentenced to 10 years for murdering neighbor Botham Jean PoliticAverse Oct 2019 #120