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Sapient Donkey

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Sat Aug 10, 2019, 02:44 PM

Aug 2019

I get the suspicious nature of this whole thing, but it's amazing how certain people can be about it before having any facts.

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Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials [View all] Julian Englis Aug 2019 OP

I cannot believe this. herding cats Aug 2019 #1

I would have thought so after his first attempt. If not, he should have been. Arkansas Granny Aug 2019 #27

It's very curious to say the least. mzmolly Aug 2019 #128

I find this very suspicious. zonkers Aug 2019 #119

Of course it suspicious herding cats Aug 2019 #133

Prisoners do it frequently... dawg day Aug 2019 #156

No way he offed himself on suicide watch. defacto7 Aug 2019 #172

You are absolutely spot-on.... AZ8theist Aug 2019 #189

I suspect that it was murder made to look like suicide. Doreen Aug 2019 #199

what I find very suspicious is the russian troll farms started blaming Clinton right away yaesu Aug 2019 #163

It doesn't take long to ramp up the troll response. yardwork Aug 2019 #188

That's no surprise. Mr.Bill Aug 2019 #193

So tell me again LoveMyCali Aug 2019 #212

Yes, they are saying its now safe for Hillary to run for president again, lol n/t Baclava Aug 2019 #232

the story says NJCher Aug 2019 #160

Exactly. Nt dflprincess Aug 2019 #202

Suicide or he knew too much? LisaL Aug 2019 #2

I totally agree. And we shall never know because our A.G. is a master of coverup groundloop Aug 2019 #4

My money is on he knew too much. FarPoint Aug 2019 #7

From what has been alleged, he was directing under aged girls to have sex with some very rich and LisaL Aug 2019 #14

+1. nt tblue37 Aug 2019 #122

+ 100 n/t MBS Aug 2019 #136

Agreed. Knew too much and people in high places were involved. democratisphere Aug 2019 #19

Most notable word in the docs released yesterday... SayItLoud Aug 2019 #100

Do you have a link for those docs? Thanks. 58Sunliner Aug 2019 #117

Been speculation that the pp could stand for pedophile. MrsCoffee Aug 2019 #176

He might not have said much more than he already said bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #158

Way to go NYC BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #3

The MCC is a Federal prison in NYC not a NY city run joint Julian Englis Aug 2019 #20

Filled with New Yorkers BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #31

Suicide watch means Historic NY Aug 2019 #61

If this was a murder mystery, the editor would send it back. irisblue Aug 2019 #77

Suicide watch means SCantiGOP Aug 2019 #165

This is the fact. They are stripped naked as well so their clothing can't be used. defacto7 Aug 2019 #177

No Ptah Aug 2019 #183

I don't know what the suicide watch policy and procedure is at MCC. yardwork Aug 2019 #186

In other startling news, the sun rose this morning. Girard442 Aug 2019 #5

I am anxiously waiting for it to set. democratisphere Aug 2019 #22

Not surprising. I thought he was supposed to be on "suicide watch". NurseJackie Aug 2019 #6

Just Heard on news Linda Ed Aug 2019 #83

Somebody "watched" him commit suicide..... lastlib Aug 2019 #219

I have this feeling that Hav Aug 2019 #8

How convenient for so many Scalded Nun Aug 2019 #9

+100 Duppers Aug 2019 #173

He was whacked Vinnie From Indy Aug 2019 #10

Of course he did Traildogbob Aug 2019 #23

2nd term? INdemo Aug 2019 #104

Beware Traildogbob Aug 2019 #157

NOT 24hrs after the big document drop by the courts. Zoonart Aug 2019 #24

That... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2019 #113

This should not be a surprise RandiFan1290 Aug 2019 #11

Yeah. Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #72

Keep pursuing all the evidence against others SurfinBetty Aug 2019 #12

Agree nt spooky3 Aug 2019 #17

'Zackly RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #40

And they are all just as vulnerable as he was. defacto7 Aug 2019 #181

Yes, exactly. They now are looking at a clear example of what happens if they even think of talking. gristy Aug 2019 #206

Absolutely!!!! Rebl2 Aug 2019 #49

Yes! The clients/ friends should be investigated. Delmette2.0 Aug 2019 #169

Release of new evidence and passenger manifest yesterday yellerpup Aug 2019 #13

MSNBC is (so far) saying "he was found dead" as opposed to "suicide." spooky3 Aug 2019 #15

Now they are calling it "suicide" but raising questions. spooky3 Aug 2019 #43

He was found hanging around..... Historic NY Aug 2019 #67

and you are on camera 24/7 Seedersandleechers Aug 2019 #141

Exactly, I believe regulations would call for 15 min. intervals... Historic NY Aug 2019 #200

God riddance to total scum! TruckFump Aug 2019 #16

if there were crimes committed by others i would assume the investigation goes on? samnsara Aug 2019 #37

Oh, yeah, no doubt in my mind that it continues. TruckFump Aug 2019 #48

Thus saving everybody's pet fact-free theory jberryhill Aug 2019 #18

It does nothing of the sort. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #25

Sure it does jberryhill Aug 2019 #33

They are speculating. Is the speculation unreasonable? Since he was supposedly on still_one Aug 2019 #47

People seem to attribute magical power to "suicide watch" jberryhill Aug 2019 #62

Still, it will be interesting to see how he did it still_one Aug 2019 #71

Yup jberryhill Aug 2019 #76

Common sense dictates he wasnt built for jail, It was his only out Old Vet Aug 2019 #180

Who cares what we say here. Would you agree that the investigation should continue? yardwork Aug 2019 #60

Welcome to Non-sequitur Sweepstakes jberryhill Aug 2019 #64

Argh. I'm not accusing you of anything. Asking what you think. yardwork Aug 2019 #175

No kidding PSPS Aug 2019 #86

"The fact is that this is the usual end to a child molester's life" jberryhill Aug 2019 #90

The only pet theory I see here is yours-which also relies upon a dearth of facts. 58Sunliner Aug 2019 #129

Lol jberryhill Aug 2019 #134

Check your post upthread Devil Child Aug 2019 #237

Hmm! Floyd R. Turbo Aug 2019 #21

True according to NYTimes. sinkingfeeling Aug 2019 #26

The investigation must continue. yardwork Aug 2019 #28

Suicide, MY ASS. They got to him and killed him so he couldn't tell on all Nay Aug 2019 #29

My guess is Barr knows someone who owns a crematorium Captain Zero Aug 2019 #127

I understand the suspicion, but how can you say it with such certainty? Sapient Donkey Aug 2019 #229

In my case, the simple fact that people like Trump, Barr, Russians and the rest of the enablers Nay Aug 2019 #234

I long for the day the same news applies to a certain wannabe fascist dictator of America. Doodley Aug 2019 #30

Oh, he LOVES Scarsdale Aug 2019 #78

LET THE CONSPIRACY BEGIN!!!!!!! mitch96 Aug 2019 #32

As will most people on DU jberryhill Aug 2019 #34

so ? stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #56

Yeah, why not. We had fake hospital workers here this week jberryhill Aug 2019 #70

What you had was multiple execs and presidents with that group. 58Sunliner Aug 2019 #126

Seems more fun to pretend cleverness as the expense of benign speculation. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #244

The difference is justgamma Aug 2019 #68

Yes, RobinA Aug 2019 #197

As none of us were there and thus have no way of knowing what happened, your contemptous call-outs hlthe2b Aug 2019 #106

he hanged himself.?.. they should rule out auto-erotic asphyxiation... samnsara Aug 2019 #35

And cue the conspiracy theories in 3, 2, 1... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #36

Nothing suspicious about this at all. LisaL Aug 2019 #38

Suicide watch is 100% effective in preventing suicide where? jberryhill Aug 2019 #51

They don't assign a person to sit there and watch you. Igel Aug 2019 #88

Well, right now it's simple. On or off, zero or 1, yes or no. Mc Mike Aug 2019 #63

And of course Gary Webb sandensea Aug 2019 #238

EXACTLY. oldsoftie Aug 2019 #92

IMHO: His suicide should be taken to mean "I Confess! Guilty as Charged" NurseJackie Aug 2019 #39

I don't think he needed suicide for that. LisaL Aug 2019 #44

True. He could have actually confessed. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #55

+1 EOM TruckFump Aug 2019 #50

Gee, on the same day that it has come out that Trump had been on his planes .... Botany Aug 2019 #41

maybe someone didn't realize that "Suicide Watch" meant they were supposed to INTERVENE and PREVENT NurseJackie Aug 2019 #42

He took the easy way out rawhideal Aug 2019 #45

I'm no conspiracy nut, but this sure smells fishy DrToast Aug 2019 #46

Baxtered? DemoTex Aug 2019 #52

I remember that. Ilsa Aug 2019 #69

Suicide my ass! liberal N proud Aug 2019 #53

I'm actually very glad he spent his final days suffering in a state prison mucifer Aug 2019 #54

It was a federal prison. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #214

"Definitely Not Putin" Roy Rolling Aug 2019 #57

Strangled . . . Richard D Aug 2019 #58

OMG thought they were protecting him Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #59

Trump will send 'thoughts and prayers' left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #65

... Leghorn21 Aug 2019 #66

Nothing is too hard when you have the means. bluedigger Aug 2019 #73

That's what I'm thinking... LeftInTX Aug 2019 #174

Bribed with what, though? His prison commissary account? Jedi Guy Aug 2019 #241

Not For A Second Do I Believe That This Was Suicide...... global1 Aug 2019 #74

He "bought his way out" the 1st time -- The 2nd time didn't look so good. whathehell Aug 2019 #144

Still Too Early In This Case For Him To Off Himself..... global1 Aug 2019 #162

Not sure...People in far less dire circumstances commit suicide. whathehell Aug 2019 #184

That's the thing that makes me a bit suspicious. Ligyron Aug 2019 #208

Seems convenient timing, as the flight logs that were just released Snarkoleptic Aug 2019 #75

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #105

I can't believe this. Very fishy. Catherine Vincent Aug 2019 #79

How convenient sandensea Aug 2019 #80

Simple...They Got Him. ashredux Aug 2019 #81

Dang, shades of the DC Madam. Hugin Aug 2019 #82

Can hear trump now, "so sad, he was a great guy!" Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2019 #84

But, he hardly knew him and was not a fan. Hugin Aug 2019 #94

Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by zentrum Aug 2019 #85

Let the conspiracies begin! oldsoftie Aug 2019 #87

Maybe they're both right Polybius Aug 2019 #243

It will be interesting to see who takes possession of his properties and the contents. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #89

Should be split up among his victims NT oldsoftie Aug 2019 #95

All is not lost. Apparently a ton of incriminating information has been seized. empedocles Aug 2019 #98

This pisses me off LittleGirl Aug 2019 #91

We can't catch a break! nt. SayItLoud Aug 2019 #93

This is odd The Liberal Lion Aug 2019 #96

Absent full 24/7 restraint, you can't really completely prevent suicide jberryhill Aug 2019 #99

Quite. Even those on the loose who feel their capture is imminent will usually kill themselves. PSPS Aug 2019 #124

Is it odd that while on suicide watch he had something in his cell Flaleftist Aug 2019 #140

He escaped too easily Bayard Aug 2019 #97

Suicide Watch Fall - they allowed him to do this. jpak Aug 2019 #101

Incompetent supervision or worse? SHRED Aug 2019 #102

MSNBC reporting he was taken off suicide watch. DrToast Aug 2019 #111

Well there you go BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #139

OMG stay off twitter.. even on my all liberal follow list OKNancy Aug 2019 #103

The predictable response. yardwork Aug 2019 #190

The internet. Such a wonderful place. Sapient Donkey Aug 2019 #223

Edit to: "EPSTEIN IS DEAD, DIES BY SUICIDE" - Official explanation empedocles Aug 2019 #107

CNN edits to 'apparent suicide' empedocles Aug 2019 #171

Watch what happens next. My guess nothing tymorial Aug 2019 #108

This is a travesty and a miscarriage of justice UpInArms Aug 2019 #109

our whole justice system is a travesty, if he didn't bribe his way out 10 years ago yaesu Aug 2019 #123

Ah yes, "we all know" the entire justice system is a "travesty" jberryhill Aug 2019 #131

Captain Renault Mendocino Aug 2019 #110

It's a start. (nt) Paladin Aug 2019 #112

And the hits just keep on comin' GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #114

Really odd reporting. Everyone is saying he "died by suicide", which isn't the normal way... George II Aug 2019 #115

No, "died by suicide" is the way it's said now. DrToast Aug 2019 #116

Thanks. I actually never heard that before. George II Aug 2019 #120

I want Epstein tried "in absentia" so the important info is aired. CCExile Aug 2019 #118

i want a dna test rampartc Aug 2019 #121

church lady says Captain Zero Aug 2019 #138

Trumpsters already claiming the Clintons had him whacked IronLionZion Aug 2019 #125

Sure he did. Just a way for his clientele list to not be leaked. EllieBC Aug 2019 #130

Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide people Aug 2019 #132

The focus should shift to Ghislaine Maxwell who was his partner in crime. nt chowder66 Aug 2019 #135

She should be put in protective custody if justice is to be served. Same for the pilot(s). JudyM Aug 2019 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author chowder66 Aug 2019 #211

Which case? I missed that and can't find it online... JudyM Aug 2019 #216

My bad. I thought that's what I read but I'm seeing things apparently. chowder66 Aug 2019 #220

Heh, NP. I think that must be going around, everything's multi-level crazy and moving fast. JudyM Aug 2019 #235

Continue the investigation rokar Aug 2019 #137

The criminal investigation against him is dead. No way to revive it. But, SharonAnn Aug 2019 #155

Dead men don't talk bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #142

This going to laugh 2,000,000 conspiracy theories. nycbos Aug 2019 #143

Just now on msnbc someone said he was recently taken off of suicide watch. Only one official chowder66 Aug 2019 #145

Suicide or suicided? keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #146

Dead men tell no tales. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2019 #161

"If it's really Epstein" - see the movie: Swordfish keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #164

Remember when Ken Lay "died" too? Recursion Aug 2019 #147

'Oh Kenny Boy crazytown Aug 2019 #204

There may be a dead body in Epstein's cell, but is it really Epstein? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2019 #148

Bingo. Glad I'm not the only one who went there Recursion Aug 2019 #154

All cowardly sociopaths should take this route The Blue Flower Aug 2019 #149

Ghislaine. Maxwell is quite alive and facing civil action grantcart Aug 2019 #150

I doubt it ArcticFox Aug 2019 #151

There's a very special legal term for being unable to defend yourself without incriminating yourself rocktivity Aug 2019 #152

"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. It's Chinatown." Yavin4 Aug 2019 #153

Well that's convenient for a lot of rich powerful people. Hotler Aug 2019 #159

The suicide watch team certainly needs to be gone through rocktivity Aug 2019 #201

More than likely: Either you kill yourself or someone will help you and the ones you care about. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #166

I'd be curious to know which ultra wealthy sick fuck made this order... EarthFirst Aug 2019 #167

Holy Shit. Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #168

A friend just commented that maybe this n/t explains why tRump Enoki33 Aug 2019 #170

Someone paid to have him die, almost certainly. Kablooie Aug 2019 #179

Where the hell is Ghislaine Maxwell? lanlady Aug 2019 #182

Ghislane's daddy was supposedly gldstwmn Aug 2019 #240

... nmgaucho Aug 2019 #185

Winner! True Dough Aug 2019 #227

He was supposed to be under 24h observation after the 1st attempt in July Tarc Aug 2019 #187

Epstein had said that "1st attempt" was actually an assault. SunSeeker Aug 2019 #215

There are 1,000s of goons to choose from RVN VET71 Aug 2019 #245

Lessons learned from Putin. Polly Hennessey Aug 2019 #191

This isn't shocking to hear duforsure Aug 2019 #192

Dead men tell no lies,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2019 #194

Guess it's a good day to be a wealthy, powerful christx30 Aug 2019 #195

Hopefully his victims can sue the estate. Throck Aug 2019 #196

You can bet Manifort and others duforsure Aug 2019 #198

Conspiracy rich circumstances. Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #203

This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2019 #205

And let me guess... jmowreader Aug 2019 #207

not good dustyscamp Aug 2019 #209

Expected? BUT.... Brainfodder Aug 2019 #210

Not sure conspiracy speculation is helpful DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #213

Assisted suicide? cstanleytech Aug 2019 #217

su·per·cil·i·ous flotsam Aug 2019 #218

Wingnuts will blame Bill Clinton. yellowcanine Aug 2019 #221

I don't usually go down into crazy conspiracy land, but this strikes me as very suspicious Sapient Donkey Aug 2019 #222

Bull SHIT!! Ferrets are Cool Aug 2019 #224

This thread, in a nutshell: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #225

I am sure I am not alone in the same feeling of anger and furor about this Pachamama Aug 2019 #226

Key word there being ": Officials" sandensea Aug 2019 #228

Popehat speaks. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #230

Wait; it gets worse. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #231

5 ... 4 ... 3 .... Hillary did it. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #233

I wonder if Epstein was as surprised by his suicide as I was Devil Child Aug 2019 #236

This stinks to high heaven. nt Hekate Aug 2019 #239

Paulie bumped into the Psychologist or Warden ... GeorgeGist Aug 2019 #242

Thomas Bowers - apparent suicide FeatherFox Nov 2019 #246