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thesquanderer

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7. Two differences in the polls...

Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:05 AM

Sep 2017

The polls are nine months apart, but also it look like your older one (for this question) polled Dems and Independents, whereas the newer one polled Dems and "Democratic leaning" independents, which would lessen Sanders support, by taking out all the independents who do not self-identify as Dem-leaning. I don't think there has ever been any question that, outside of the Dem base, Sanders does better than Clinton, so the more your survey also includes people who do not identify as Dem, the better you would expect Sanders to do relative to Clinton.

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Only 30 % of democrats want Sanders to run again [View all] factfinder_77 Sep 2017 OP

With the 46%ers. democratisphere Sep 2017 #1

I would question the source of this post-sounds RW Stargazer99 Sep 2017 #2

Ok, check up on the source (the poll, the HuffPo writer) and... JHB Sep 2017 #11

He has said much about the Democratic Party...I saw quite a few on twitter who were pretty angry. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18

ROFL snooper2 Sep 2017 #45

If it was really right wing or Russian LiberalFighter Sep 2017 #107

And here is 44% saying that they do CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #3

OP cites dem voters lillypaddle Sep 2017 #5

Possibly and also we need to keep in mind CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #6

The poll you cited was based on a choice from among 4 people. brer cat Sep 2017 #12

The polls are never good for some are they? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #59

OR people are wise to the propaganda and hero worship. nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #93

The data in one of the polls is not current. lapucelle Sep 2017 #92

Two differences in the polls... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #7

Check this out CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #9

He needs Dem voters...and I just don't think that happens. Also, we can not run a candidate who Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #20

Agreed. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #112

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #119

He didn't generate "the most," because in that poll, Joe Biden's 43% pnwmom Sep 2017 #55

There are several polls saying that Bernie is the most popular CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #60

No, we don't know this. None of the cited polls included Joe Biden. pnwmom Sep 2017 #61

You do know this CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #64

LOL. You can't point me to a single poll that compares Bernie to every politician in America. pnwmom Sep 2017 #94

That data is old. lapucelle Sep 2017 #91

Note that the HuffPo article PDittie Sep 2017 #4

Right, only 20% want Clinton to run again. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #8

People want to see somebody new run I think. nt. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #50

Bingo. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #75

Great post, Cherrypicker_77! TCJ70 Sep 2017 #10

Bad polling. LexVegas Sep 2017 #13

You're right, it's higher :) CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #15

hahahahahaha JHan Sep 2017 #109

Prove me wrong CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #115

I'm not interested, which is why I enjoyed that laugh. JHan Sep 2017 #117

Of course you aren't CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #118

Correct! JHan Sep 2017 #122

He is done regardless of polls. bluepen Sep 2017 #14

Done? How so? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #16

He is not going to be elected President. bluepen Sep 2017 #29

Says who? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #33

Never happen. cwydro Sep 2017 #36

Says who? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #39

Bernie Sanders is no Barack Obama. cwydro Sep 2017 #40

Funny isn't it? BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #49

Spot on. cwydro Sep 2017 #51

Go back and read my response CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #58

I read it just fine. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #72

Okay CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #73

It's ridiculous lunamagica Sep 2017 #67

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #80

Did I say he was? No CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #57

To me the question is not whether he can become president but rather what he could expect to StevieM Sep 2017 #84

You asked me and I answered, so: says me. bluepen Sep 2017 #42

I don't think so...I would vote for whoever, the Democratic candidate is. But I don't Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #43

Say the majority of Dems. He will never be president lunamagica Sep 2017 #66

I supported Sanders in the primary Bettie Sep 2017 #17

You can definitely include me in one of those groups. I won't say which one... for obvious reasons. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #19

hee hee... lunamagica Sep 2017 #68

I think we need a new face next time Va Lefty Sep 2017 #21

He is my current favorite politician but I was "anybody but Hillary" so I would have supported m-lekktor Sep 2017 #22

So you weren't able to vote for Hillary in the general? Control-Z Sep 2017 #32

Wow, seriously? cwydro Sep 2017 #38

Jim Webb too? Starry Messenger Sep 2017 #46

Did you vote for her in the GE? lunamagica Sep 2017 #69

*Crickets* lunamagica Sep 2017 #100

yes i did vote for her. I always vote for the DEM m-lekktor Sep 2017 #113

Thank you. That wasn't so hard, was it? lunamagica Sep 2017 #114

I don't care if he runs just don't run as a Democrat leftofcool Sep 2017 #23

I love Bernie, but I don't want him to run again. Vinca Sep 2017 #24

I'm with you. Younger candidates with younger contacts Warpy Sep 2017 #101

Republicans are the enemy ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #25

......... disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #26

That number is high. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #27

He will be too old. Thirties Child Sep 2017 #28

Nawww CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #37

I was pretty solid in Clintons corner. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #41

... Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #30

Another of the daily attacks on Bernie? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #31

Daily attack? How do you figure? I'm not seeing it as an attack. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #53

TIL: Unfavorable polls are now an attack. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #63

Read the whole article. It's more of an attack on Hillary than Bernie. Autumn Sep 2017 #56

Hillary has no plans to run again, so this is irrelevant lunamagica Sep 2017 #71

No, it's actually not irrelevant melman Sep 2017 #78

Thoughtful reply lunamagica Sep 2017 #86

### NurseJackie Sep 2017 #90

I'm very sure it is. Autumn Sep 2017 #82

What is so funny? lunamagica Sep 2017 #87

Lots of things are funny, it all depends on one's sense of humor. I have no idea what you find funny Autumn Sep 2017 #88

Of course you don't, but I'm curious. What did you find funny about my post? lunamagica Sep 2017 #97

I find poll question six funny. lapucelle Sep 2017 #98

Now, that's funny! lunamagica Sep 2017 #99

Gawd, him again... pangaia Sep 2017 #76

Him and that damn popularity of his. Autumn Sep 2017 #83

From the same article. Only 20 % want to see Clinton run again Autumn Sep 2017 #34

Yah, someone kinda buried the lede there.... KTM Sep 2017 #48

In their zeal to post a hit piece on Bernie they post a hit piece on Hillary, one Autumn Sep 2017 #54

No, that's not it. It;s because she's not running again lunamagica Sep 2017 #70

Suuuuuure... KTM Sep 2017 #81

You are wrong. There was no point to post a headline like that, because she's nor running again lunamagica Sep 2017 #95

Tell yourself whatever you need to. KTM Sep 2017 #104

I see that works for you. R B Garr Sep 2017 #108

Exactly. And I'll take the actual quantifiable popularity R B Garr Sep 2017 #89

Well said. After all, that's the only reall poll, the one that counts. lunamagica Sep 2017 #96

Ouch. Iggo Sep 2017 #77

I'm surprised it's as high as 30% NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #35

Lets keep Ds and D party friends ELECTED in the midterms coming up-hey?hello? Sunlei Sep 2017 #44

And 66% of Californians are against single payer, right factfiner? Iggo Sep 2017 #47

The devil is always in the details. Autumn Sep 2017 #65

It's a long time until 2020 hamsterjill Sep 2017 #52

Eh, there's still time for that number to go down before 2020. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #62

I'm a Sanders fan. If he does run, maybe I'll vote for him. But I'd rather we get a different JCanete Sep 2017 #74

Copy that! redstatebluegirl Sep 2017 #79

No more old white men Lebam in LA Sep 2017 #85

FOCUS People, 2018 kacekwl Sep 2017 #102

This is ridiculous. Focus people. We need to win everything between now and 2018 riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #103

What's silly and divisive is attacking good elected Democrats R B Garr Sep 2017 #106

Funny, last year Sanders and Biden were the top choices for Dems Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #105

by 2018 we'll see surefire contenders. JHan Sep 2017 #110

Most likely, HE doesn't want to run again Ken Burch Sep 2017 #111

Agreed... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #121

I guess I can understand why you didn't mention Hillary Clinton's poll numbers from that piece m-lekktor Sep 2017 #116

I think if he was 10-15 years younger, he'd be a frontrunner oberliner Sep 2017 #120