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MaggieD

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Wed May 13, 2015, 07:35 PM

May 2015

Democrats.org is not "the rest of the Democratic Party." It's a political machine that will use every advantage it has, but only as long as it remains an advantage to the front runner. Sorry to break it to you.

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Sanders might do to Hillary what Nader did to Gore in 2000 [View all] Backwoodsrider May 2015 OP

Has Hillary won the primary yet? I must have missed that. Edited Autumn May 2015 #1

+1 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #5

+1000 G_j May 2015 #6

+10000000000 peacebird May 2015 #184

Today I found out I have something to be thankful for... cui bono May 2015 #266

Damn. Am I the only lucky one? Autumn May 2015 #267

Gore won. Bush stole it. morningfog May 2015 #2

+1 million deutsey May 2015 #11

Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris stole more votes in Florida John Poet May 2015 #104

^^^THIS^^^ is what happened to Gore, FYI MrMickeysMom May 2015 #185

Sanders has stated time and again JustAnotherGen May 2015 #3

interesting take on the 3rd party Backwoodsrider May 2015 #19

I too live in reality Robbins May 2015 #25

I completely agree Backwoodsrider May 2015 #90

Exactly.. sendero May 2015 #265

there's no "might back.. who wins" involved, kiddo cali May 2015 #42

Yep Robbins May 2015 #52

interesting Backwoodsrider May 2015 #97

"Just a politician" karynnj May 2015 #108

do the research. there are plenty of threads cali May 2015 #113

he has the politician wordiness down Backwoodsrider May 2015 #120

Gee, you're awful fond of words yourself..... daleanime May 2015 #136

Truth be told safeinOhio May 2015 #73

thank you Backwoodsrider May 2015 #264

No Labels JustAnotherGen May 2015 #83

thank you just another gen thats a brilliant post Backwoodsrider May 2015 #141

I get frustrated at DU sometimes JustAnotherGen May 2015 #169

Sanders will back whoever wins the primary mythology May 2015 #101

So your friends and family are more interested in 'labels', John Poet May 2015 #107

That level of condescension John Poet May 2015 #109

I'm not sure winning support for Hillary Clinton... Zenlitened May 2015 #116

I was thinking the same myself, John Poet May 2015 #117

Funny, but the majority of voters in races already HAVE voted for a Socialist Democrat... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #190

Your Democratic family and friends LWolf May 2015 #260

Zero chance Bernie will risk doing a Nader, he knows how much harm the right randys1 May 2015 #57

Right marions ghost May 2015 #168

And grabbing Manchin wouldn't be a far reach. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #106

I have popcorn, anyone want extra butter? leftofcool May 2015 #4

How dare more than one person ever run... in a primary! villager May 2015 #7

What a concept...2 candidates in a Primary...Wow. And Bernie has stated he will not be a Spoiler. libdem4life May 2015 #13

El dedazo y el destape nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #20

PRI, indeed. villager May 2015 #21

Oh Noes!11!1!!11 hootinholler May 2015 #8

We needed a new sock to play with LondonReign2 May 2015 #111

Bernie Sanders is a decent person, there's absolutly no sufrommich May 2015 #9

its about power Backwoodsrider May 2015 #23

"I would LOVE to see Hillary in a free debate with Sanders" Zenlitened May 2015 #38

No. It's about ideas and issues. It has nothing to do with "smash mouth politics" cali May 2015 #67

their ideas are just foder for the masses Backwoodsrider May 2015 #78

what are you babbling about? and just who do you think you are,speaking for "all"? cali May 2015 #94

It's spelled "Fodor" Zenlitened May 2015 #118

Sanders has pledged not to run on a third party ticket in the general tritsofme May 2015 #10

+100 nt okaawhatever May 2015 #33

He's not running as an Indy - try again. TBF May 2015 #12

Yes, and being a come-lately, I do not believe he carries the negative baggage of said Party. Just libdem4life May 2015 #18

That's the best part. TBF May 2015 #82

Amen to that. n/t libdem4life May 2015 #88

"I will not be a spoiler." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #14

and i did not have sex with that woman and there are WMDs in Irag and.... Backwoodsrider May 2015 #26

Of course they do tkmorris May 2015 #50

I am wary of people who become national folk heros Backwoodsrider May 2015 #100

This is irony. kenfrequed May 2015 #251

I am sorry you feel that way Backwoodsrider May 2015 #255

Double "feh" kenfrequed May 2015 #257

well my apology is true Backwoodsrider May 2015 #263

Sanders is competing in the primaries Gothmog May 2015 #15

Sanders will lose in the primary he will not upaloopa May 2015 #16

in 2016 enough left voters might 'sit this one out' because their guy didnt win primary Backwoodsrider May 2015 #36

Name one. ieoeja May 2015 #46

I cant believe I read that either. Wow...with friends like that, how are we ever going to get the randys1 May 2015 #65

calling for a political revolution is pretty far out Backwoodsrider May 2015 #126

Oh brother.... LeftOfWest May 2015 #135

yes he sort of scares me a little Backwoodsrider May 2015 #137

The Reagan Revolution must really scare you. Since it already actually happened. n/t ieoeja May 2015 #151

The words mean nothing... RichVRichV May 2015 #227

make sense to me Backwoodsrider May 2015 #237

Don't play into their hands. RichVRichV May 2015 #240

and Hillary called for "toppling the 1%" cali May 2015 #144

Extremists on the Fringe...Extreme, how? Fringe, Just announced? And the base message would be???? libdem4life May 2015 #47

Sanders does not have "far out points." upaloopa May 2015 #54

Far out? BlindTiresias May 2015 #59

i too would like to pile on to point out how fucking ridiculous your statement looks frylock May 2015 #70

You are correct. Except the extremists on the edge are the Third Wayers LondonReign2 May 2015 #123

Holy crap dude, go back to modding your Harley tkmorris May 2015 #124

Odd given that Sanders is running for the democratic primary. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #17

I still remember "There's not a dimes worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush" greenman3610 May 2015 #22

After twenty years of DNC triangulation jeepers May 2015 #61

Sanders is not "attacking Hillary" WDIM May 2015 #24

More flogging of the discredited meme that Nader cost Gore the election...... marmar May 2015 #27

You should reconsider your thoughts about Sanders. NCTraveler May 2015 #28

nader was diferent party splitting pres vote. sanders is running a primary with clinton. what is seabeyond May 2015 #29

You are so woefully uninformed, it's embarrassing to read on this website. AtomicKitten May 2015 #30

Big difference, Nader was third party, Bernie isn't. Second if Hillary wins the nomination still_one May 2015 #31

Stealing what "fire" from Hillary? Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #32

Complete Balderdash. MohRokTah May 2015 #34

Cool story, bro! RandiFan1290 May 2015 #35

His decades of transparency and consistency are what will undermine Hillary, if nothing else. libdem4life May 2015 #37

Thar be panic In Hillaryland. 99Forever May 2015 #39

Yep, and DU seems to be doing its best MaggieD May 2015 #40

duh-herrrrrrrr frylock May 2015 #76

I hope your candidate doesn't embarrass herself making broad brush statements like that. bluesbassman May 2015 #112

It's a fact, not a "scare tactic" MaggieD May 2015 #125

Let me see if I have this straight... bluesbassman May 2015 #132

Yes, you have that right MaggieD May 2015 #138

Well why don't you just ask Bernie then... bluesbassman May 2015 #155

So why does he keep using (I) after his name? MaggieD May 2015 #156

Well it costs a lot of money to have all your shits re-monogrammed. bluesbassman May 2015 #158

Uh huh MaggieD May 2015 #159

Quite simple really if you though about it. TM99 May 2015 #205

But he doesn't want to be known as one? MaggieD May 2015 #208

Irrelevant bullshit. TM99 May 2015 #210

Huh? I have to prove to you he has an (I) after his name? MaggieD May 2015 #213

I just explained to you why. TM99 May 2015 #228

Your explanation was BS... MaggieD May 2015 #229

Go away. TM99 May 2015 #231

Hmm, I am getting a craving for vanilla icecream nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #232

LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #233

You are wasting your time nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #214

Big difference - Bernie is not running 3rd Party. n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #41

just putting this idea out there Backwoodsrider May 2015 #43

Oh, and who cares who the people you know are voting for. HERVEPA May 2015 #48

You do realize, more Dems in Florida voted for Bush Oilwellian May 2015 #167

'Stole'? TransitJohn May 2015 #242

Nader knew exactly how Florida was going to play Backwoodsrider May 2015 #245

Yes, you saying Nader stole votes from Gore is untrue. TransitJohn May 2015 #248

Google Nader stole Florida i dont think its just me Backwoodsrider May 2015 #249

No, you're right, lots of other people are wrong, too TransitJohn May 2015 #250

Really foul to compare Bernie to Nader. Trash thread. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #44

Stupid, stupid post. Poster should educate himself. HERVEPA May 2015 #45

Gore wins Florida by 12,000 votes if you take Nader out of the race bluestateguy May 2015 #49

Over 300,000 Democrats voted for Bush. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #244

There is an element of truth to that bluestateguy May 2015 #246

YAwn L0oniX May 2015 #51

How many times is this stupid fucking meme about Sanders going to surface? NuclearDem May 2015 #53

Probably until.... MaggieD May 2015 #58

he has said he will NOT be a spoiler!!!!!!!!!! nt G_j May 2015 #63

Ralph said that too... MaggieD May 2015 #66

Nader was third party from the start, G_j May 2015 #74

No he actually said... MaggieD May 2015 #79

I get what you are saying G_j May 2015 #84

I don't trust any politician MaggieD May 2015 #142

gooble-gobble frylock May 2015 #77

I don't think Sanders will go rogue once he loses the primary. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #55

Nader ran as third party AgingAmerican May 2015 #56

Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, SCOTUS, Republican Congressional aids who rioted Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #60

Bernie is running as a Dem BlindTiresias May 2015 #62

He is? Why no (D) after his name then? MaggieD May 2015 #68

Give this tired diversionary crap a rest. n/t Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #91

You mad, bro? MaggieD May 2015 #140

I have seen THIS game before. Orsino May 2015 #64

Meh. If Gore had broken definitively w. corporate-state ideology Nader would have received no votes at all Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #69

this is embarrassing to read. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #71

Nader ran in the Dem primary? KamaAina May 2015 #72

Gore was his own worst enemy tularetom May 2015 #75

Gore distanced himself from Clinton Art_from_Ark May 2015 #268

No, he won't ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #80

No, I am going to trust him too. leftofcool May 2015 #110

True ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #114

So ... We should crown a Victor and gear up for the General Election before the Primary season ? Trajan May 2015 #81

If Bernie wins the primary, will Hillary run as an independent? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #85

shit stirring and shit flinging may be the cali May 2015 #86

I do not mean to be a shit stirrer Backwoodsrider May 2015 #92

An opinion based on iron-clad truthiness, apparently n/t deutsey May 2015 #115

so it matters not a whit to you that dozens of people in this thread cali May 2015 #119

well that is some DU members opinion Backwoodsrider May 2015 #121

How the hell would anyone at DU know if he was wrong? MaggieD May 2015 #146

Won't happen. Sanders is vying for the Democratic nomination. MADem May 2015 #87

Bernie has said he won't run Nite Owl May 2015 #89

The "Nader Gave Bush the Election" is hogwash. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #93

There is no maybe about it MaggieD May 2015 #145

+1 MrMickeysMom May 2015 #192

You really don't have any idea what you're talking about Scootaloo May 2015 #95

Their just slow. lol. nt Snotcicles May 2015 #105

I don't think MIRT can act on a poster here since 2008... Zenlitened May 2015 #128

The strategy was outlined in some of the material leaked by Snowden. Maedhros May 2015 #200

Was it really? I guess that'd explain... Zenlitened May 2015 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #170

Crap. Sanders is running for the Dem nomination. riqster May 2015 #96

Not the same at all - Nader ran in the general election against Gore, Sanders is running against her karynnj May 2015 #98

This thread already has one hundred responses... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #99

Thank you for your "concern." Maedhros May 2015 #102

This OP means Bernie's populist record and message must really be spooking HRC's supporters, eh? peacebird May 2015 #188

This week has seen a deluge of low-post-count users posting ridiculously uninformed nonsense Maedhros May 2015 #195

Sanders said he would support the Democratic Nominee if he is not the winner. hrmjustin May 2015 #103

You may find this information useful... JHB May 2015 #122

Can we at least have ONE primary before we crown Hillary queen? Goblinmonger May 2015 #127

Bernie has been attacking the right for 40 years. He has not changed, But continue with your delusion. Vincardog May 2015 #129

When they actually counted the ballots, GORE WON. It was stolen in fla that time, ohio in 04 TheNutcracker May 2015 #130

Oh, bullshit. Give it a rest. truebluegreen May 2015 #131

Bernie has already said he will not run as a spoiler. I beleive him. To help an R beat the jwirr May 2015 #133

Did you believe Ralph when he said it? MaggieD May 2015 #148

yes it is odd he hasnt changed partys yet Backwoodsrider May 2015 #153

In Vermont no one indicates a party preference when they register to vote? We did not question jwirr May 2015 #172

Howard Dean called himself a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #186

Wake up Maggie the DNR sent all of us a letter telling about our new candidate. What makes you jwirr May 2015 #171

If you mean the DNC, he is useful to them MaggieD May 2015 #179

Hmm. So I am not a Democrat? What is it we are supposed to do to prove it to you? In my state jwirr May 2015 #193

You're a voter - he's a candidate MaggieD May 2015 #207

The stupid is strong in this one. backscatter712 May 2015 #134

If he is running "as a Democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #150

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #154

He was elected as an independent in Vermont. He has changed parties but that election does not jwirr May 2015 #173

Then why is he still adverstising himself as an Independent? MaggieD May 2015 #174

How is he advertising himself as an independent? jwirr May 2015 #176

Inform yourself - I can help MaggieD May 2015 #182

He IS the Independent senator from Vermont. That is his designation from the last election. It will jwirr May 2015 #197

He hasn't changed that MaggieD May 2015 #199

There's no quotes around that. He will be participating in the Democratic primary process, and if he Warren DeMontague May 2015 #247

hillary isnt the best we have bowens43 May 2015 #139

He'll be neutralized SoCalNative May 2015 #143

Legalize Lonnie Anderson's Hair!!!!!!! H2O Man May 2015 #147

He's promised to run as a Democrat, to run a clean campaign, ucrdem May 2015 #149

So, he'll have no effect then. PeteSelman May 2015 #152

As far as I can ascertain, Nader was never elected to public office. Sanders, on the other hand... KansDem May 2015 #157

In Vermont MaggieD May 2015 #160

In 2011, he was ranked third in popularity among US senators KansDem May 2015 #161

In Vermont MaggieD May 2015 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author MaggieD May 2015 #163

Sanders not running a third party campaign in GE. HooptieWagon May 2015 #164

So help me out here...As I remember it, Party Unity My ASS was a HRC supporter thing... HereSince1628 May 2015 #165

I am telling you. Bernie is running as a Democrat Autumn May 2015 #166

Then why is he still adverstising himself as an Independent? MaggieD May 2015 #175

You should ask him that. I know why I don't consider myself a democrat but Autumn May 2015 #178

I don't need to ask him - I can see he isn't a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #181

The TOS does not say one must be a Democrat to post here. I do support a Democrat. Autumn May 2015 #189

Sure it does MaggieD May 2015 #204

You and my dearest friend have that same problem. You change some words Autumn May 2015 #219

I didn't change any words of yours MaggieD May 2015 #220

Do you deny that you said "If you are not a Democrat you should not be posting here"? Autumn May 2015 #224

You said "I know why I don't consider myself a democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #225

It's not required that I be a Democrat. It is required I support Democrats Autumn May 2015 #230

Your time here is limited, apparently MaggieD May 2015 #215

Even more silliness nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #217

So why is he still advertising as an Independent (I) MaggieD May 2015 #218

Thanks for the time correction, My watch nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #222

I am going to vote for the Democrat, I donate money to his campaign monthly and will Autumn May 2015 #223

silly H2O Man May 2015 #211

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #216

Maggie, this is what it says on the first page at Democrats.org the actual Party's actual website: Bluenorthwest May 2015 #183

So what? MaggieD May 2015 #187

So you think the Democratic Party is promoting as a Democratic candidate a person who is not in fact Bluenorthwest May 2015 #194

I do. He is useful MaggieD May 2015 #201

take my word nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #191

I mean, Democrats.org for crying out loud, first page. Hillary and Bernie. Obtuse is too kind a word Bluenorthwest May 2015 #196

I had the exact same discussion nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #198

Ever More Fear Mongering cantbeserious May 2015 #177

OY !!!!!!! olddots May 2015 #180

Well at least you post this in good faith, in order to unify DU further. nt Rex May 2015 #202

Or Hillary might do to Sanders... JEB May 2015 #203

I guess I should make this clarification. John Poet May 2015 #252

Thank you. So far I've resisted changing my handle. JEB May 2015 #253

I doubt he could get as many votes as Nader treestar May 2015 #206

as he's not running in the general election cali May 2015 #209

I doubt that Hillary will get as many votes as Gore did. JEB May 2015 #254

Not unless he runs as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination! Spider Jerusalem May 2015 #212

That's fine if you take him at his word. ucrdem May 2015 #226

well, "some of us" seems to be but a handful.. G_j May 2015 #243

Oddly enough the members who berate us for trusting a twice-elected Dem pres ucrdem May 2015 #221

no no and no DonCoquixote May 2015 #234

One word... Blue_In_AK May 2015 #236

Nader wasn't running as a Democrat. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #238

When Hillary is nominated and defeated, because she's a tainted candidate, guess who gets blamed? leveymg May 2015 #239

It's bush league TransitJohn May 2015 #241

Replace "Gore" with "Obama" and "2000" with "2008" magical thyme May 2015 #256

No he won't. He's running as a Democratic candidate. Vinca May 2015 #258

I am telling you that LWolf May 2015 #259

Gore won, but you do not live in a democracy. roody May 2015 #261

Backwood, many Hillary supporters have you on ignore. I know this to be fact because... WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #262