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Tommy_Carcetti

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Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:28 PM Apr 2015

If there's one thing I simply cannot stand, it's poverty shaming. [View all]

Recently a person on my Facebook page indignantly posted her dismay that when driving by the local food bank, she saw a woman pick up food and put it in her late model car. The obvious insinuation there was that this individual had the money to spend on a new/newer car but couldn't be bothered to pay for her own groceries, and perhaps even that she was somehow gaming the system.

Of course, such a knee-jerk reaction (with emphasis on jerk) immediately discounts other logical possibilities:

1. The woman was picking up food not for herself, but for someone else who didn't have access to a car.
2. The woman didn't own the car herself but was borrowing it from a friend for need of transportation
3. The woman had recently been able to afford to buy a new car but due to a sudden change in circumstances (job loss, illness, etc.) was in need of financial assistance.

And there are other possibilities as well. People in poverty can still drive cars, even newer model ones. That doesn't make them poor, nor should it disqualify them from financial help.

The bottom line here is simple: If you don't know the circumstances behind what you are seeing, kindly shut up. It's none of your business and it's inappropriate to pass judgment on someone who very likely is struggling immensely and whose life may be a living hell. I'll freely admit that I sometimes give a dollar to the person on the street corner with a "Hungry, Please Help" sign. Yes, I know there's the possibility that person may use that dollar for alcohol or drugs instead of for food. Yes, it may be possible the person actually isn't homeless and is playing a scam. But you know what? It's a dollar. A dollar of mine that probably would go towards buying a candy bar that would go to my waistline. If the person is in fact scamming me, that's on their conscience, not mine. I won't miss that dollar, and if the person is in fact in need of help and would use that dollar wisely, I'd much rather give them that dollar than snidely pass judgment on them.

Now there's efforts afoot in numerous states to prohibit people on food stamps from buying certain items of food such as steak or seafood. Because God forbid they or the family eat the same food as the rest of us.

Some of these people, I swear, I think they think you aren't actually poor unless you are wearing a potato sack and eating nothing but bread and water. And if you are wearing a potato sack and eating only bread and water, they'd still knock you for being "lazy". It's a total lose-lose.

What makes some people feel the need to be so callous to pass such judgment, and to assume that if you're poor, you're either a fraud or lazy and unmotivated?

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Well said. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #1
Welfare queens and their Cadillacs has long been a right wing lie, now they are claiming they go liberal N proud Apr 2015 #2
I don't think their anger is directed specifically at poor persons getting cruses. Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #26
You had me worried for a half second. Brilliant. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #42
!!! Voice for Peace Apr 2015 #55
The real Welfare queens in Cadillacs, Califa Apr 2015 #43
Bingo! merrily Apr 2015 #49
By Welfare Office... NancyDL Apr 2015 #67
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A jump to conclusion may be this mother may be trying to provide her children food and we know Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #3
Believe you me, wendylaroux Apr 2015 #4
There's a definite disconnect in certain people's heads. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #5
THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I. Attacks on the poor receiving public assistance have increased appalachiablue Apr 2015 #6
Another thing to keep in mind on the "fancy car" angle. jeff47 Apr 2015 #7
Reminds me of this article. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #8
nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes taught_me_patience Apr 2015 #20
You know what's more expensive? A loan on a "cheap" car after jeff47 Apr 2015 #29
It all depends on the individual make and car. maddiemom Apr 2015 #36
Very, very true. I owned a Lexus for 19 years; it took us through thick and thin, never Nay Apr 2015 #65
I once went by a welfare office where a co-workers said they were all in late model cars happyslug Apr 2015 #56
If someone has a nice car and then loses their income IronLionZion Apr 2015 #91
I've been in category 3 Retrograde Apr 2015 #9
As far as I can determine, looking at their website snort Apr 2015 #10
The Facebook lady is a victim of a cruel misinformation campaign being waged by the Enthusiast Apr 2015 #11
Hell yes..... daleanime Apr 2015 #12
Because the world is full of self rightous assholes. blackspade Apr 2015 #13
For fear that one undeserving person might get aid, Republicans are willing to let millions starve. tclambert Apr 2015 #14
charity hibbing Apr 2015 #23
Exactly. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #30
Let me guess: you're NOT a Republican. maddiemom Apr 2015 #37
Double thumbs up to you! Agony Apr 2015 #61
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Some cities discourage panhandling IronLionZion Apr 2015 #90
The shaming is downright mean-spirited. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #15
And yet those 3 cents Thav Apr 2015 #33
I actually gasped when I read that renate Apr 2015 #41
There is no reason to read donations of children to the class. merrily Apr 2015 #51
That story brings tears to my eyes. What terrible terrible people. What would Jesus say? Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #44
Didn't Jesus say something about giving in secret... catrose Apr 2015 #89
The other, related one, is profession shaming. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #16
Around here cleaning jobs can pay $21.75/hr (SEIU) inanna Apr 2015 #60
or the do you want fries with that treestar Apr 2015 #71
You mean you don't want approved stores that sell plain clothes and cheap goods? nolabear Apr 2015 #17
The only assumption here seemed to be that the woman picking up the groceries was not poor at all. merrily Apr 2015 #18
But immediately jumping to that conclusion is just as wrong. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #19
Yes, immediately jumping to that conclusion is wrong, but it's not saying a thing about the poor. merrily Apr 2015 #25
It's one of those situations though where it's best to keep one's mouth shut. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #39
Yes. Leaping to conclusions is wrong and so is spreading them around. merrily Apr 2015 #47
Yeah it is gollygee Apr 2015 #46
My Reply 25 said jumping to the conclusion that someone is not poor (not in need) is wrong. merrily Apr 2015 #48
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Agree. ananda Apr 2015 #21
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I can sympathize because I am one... StarzGuy Apr 2015 #22
What did the FB poster say? ErikJ Apr 2015 #24
There is always shaming involved if you're poor Warpy Apr 2015 #27
Well said, Warpy. There by the grace of....etc Paper Roses Apr 2015 #40
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Our newspaper poll of the day KT2000 Apr 2015 #28
If someone is poor, and has a car as good or better than the one they drive, then it's possible that Amimnoch Apr 2015 #31
My (very wealthy) former mother-in-law insisted I go apply for food stamps tanyev Apr 2015 #32
As a complete aside.... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #34
Ditto- I wish they would tell us how poor people are the problem, not the Koch Bros, etal NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #52
If this isn't the last word on poverty and wealth distribution (Comment on Ambrose copied fromWiki), Joe Chi Minh Apr 2015 #35
I retired from the department of human service about ten years ago and Stellar Apr 2015 #38
here's another one - handicapped dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #45
K&R McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #50
The forces that own the piano, the chairs, and the rights to the song... Orsino Apr 2015 #53
I feel the same way. People are always making excuses for their own miserable lives. Voice for Peace Apr 2015 #54
I've met poor whites that are CONVINCED there is a type of welfare only available to blacks. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #57
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #58
And, if you give a dollar directly to a person who needs it greymattermom Apr 2015 #59
Myths that really frost me because I have to debunk them again and again Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2015 #62
There has been a deliberate campaign.... cynzke Apr 2015 #63
K & R GoneFishin Apr 2015 #64
From what I see on discussion boards, and, mind you, I know they're not the world... NancyDL Apr 2015 #66
Yep, you see it right here treestar Apr 2015 #70
"We need some ideas on how to bring people together." PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #74
Kicked&Recommended... butterfly77 Apr 2015 #68
Agree. The most pathetic thing about right wingers treestar Apr 2015 #69
kick Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #72
There was a lady who went to my church murielm99 Apr 2015 #73
Without a big down payment, a friend couldn't finance a used car unless lexington filly Apr 2015 #75
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Plenty of people feel jealous that others are getting more than they deserve IronLionZion Apr 2015 #83
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This started with the Reagan administration in the 1980s, specifically to make us resent the poor DesertDiamond Apr 2015 #85
Personally, I Don't Care About People "Abusing the System" On the Road Apr 2015 #86
I care about people abusing the system Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #88
I saw this also posted on my Facebook page today and it makes a lot more sense to me. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2015 #87
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