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Ms. Toad

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37. Reread my post - everything you are asking for is in the excerpt,
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:04 AM
Oct 2014

already copied directly from the CDC website.

The top line: "Recommended actions for symptomatic people with fever or other Ebola symptoms* " The asterisk means go find the asterisk to see how they define symptoms. Look down four lines below you find that the asterisk gives a list of Ebola symptoms, one of which is fatigue. The use of the word "or" means any one of the list qualifies.

Just below the "Recommended actions" is a description of which categories of people the recommended action applies to - all of the risk categories except "no risk."

Just below that is the line you see the recommended actions for "These people {who have Ebola symptoms}" which include: "medical examination" followed by, "They will remain isolated in a hospital until doctors and public health officials are certain that Ebola is not a concern."

(The action for "These people {who have Ebola symptoms}" in the "no risk" category is that a medical examination might be needed for other diseases.)

Just for completeness, so you don't have to go back to the other post or click a link: http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/fs1027-monitoring-symptoms-controlling-movement.html:

Recommended actions for symptomatic people with fever or other Ebola symptoms*

High, some, and low risk categories

These people MUST have a medical examination to make sure they don’t have Ebola. They will remain isolated in a hospital until doctors and public health officials are certain that Ebola is not a concern.

*Symptoms of Ebola: Fever, severe headache, fatigue, muscle pain, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, unexplained bruising or bleeding.

No risk category

These people might need to have a medical examination for other diseases (not Ebola).



You are correct - fatigue can mean many things. The CDC agrees to you, as long as you haven't been around people or places where Ebola is known to be present.

What I have been saying, and the CDC is saying as of Monday, is that if you have been around people or places where Ebola is known to be present, fatigue (or any of the other Ebola symptoms) should be treated as Ebola until it is proven to be something else. Fatigue doesn't necessarily mean it IS Ebola, but when you combine exposure + fatigue (or anything else on the symptom list), the risk that it is Ebola rises to a high enough level that you need to stop mingling with other people, and potentially exposing them. Like I have been saying all along with respect to Vinson and Spencer - fatigue + exposure should have been a get yourself to quarantine message.
Because if all the frightened pants-wetters knew The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #1
Yup. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #2
Exactly. That's how the home of the brave rolls these days. arcane1 Oct 2014 #3
do you think they should even be monitored? WinkyDink Oct 2014 #4
sounds like the deal. sounds like what works. seems to be 100% effective. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #7
Not knowing who they are or why they are being monitored, it makes it difficult to have an informed uppityperson Oct 2014 #15
for real, get this. some poster said it was good that nurse locked up. protected her from rioters. seabeyond Oct 2014 #6
There it is. You win the thread! freshwest Oct 2014 #27
According to the state of Michigan ... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #5
but, there are some to demand locking up the doctor. i wonder if they will insist every person seabeyond Oct 2014 #8
This is craziness ... clearly they have .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #10
The cognitive dissonance jen63 Oct 2014 #12
Disheartening to say the least! n/t etherealtruth Oct 2014 #14
I'm trying to keep my jen63 Oct 2014 #18
Not "a" case, but two. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #16
What? etherealtruth Oct 2014 #20
Not insinuating, flat out stating it. You said we had not even had "a" case. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #22
Let me clarify ... we have not had a case of community aquired Ebola etherealtruth Oct 2014 #23
There is a huge difference between catching ebola in the community and by taking care of ebola pt in uppityperson Oct 2014 #26
There has been ebola, but no cases passed on from any returning HCW. It is true that one traveler uppityperson Oct 2014 #21
Except, except, except... Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #24
What you say as "far simpler..." is what they are doing. uppityperson Oct 2014 #25
Two of the health care workers failed to do it properly. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #28
I read a report earlier, am too tired to go look it up right now, saying they were not sure if what uppityperson Oct 2014 #29
You disagree with the CDC, then. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #35
Bears have fur, but not all animals with fur are bears. uppityperson Oct 2014 #36
Reread my post - everything you are asking for is in the excerpt, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #37
Excuse me, I missed the last 2 words my previous post, have edited them in uppityperson Oct 2014 #30
blew it... i tell you, all the way to virus free and contained. fuckin blew it. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #33
Glad you can predict the future, since 21 days have not yet passed. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #34
As has been noted elsewhere: The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #9
HIPAA? Brigid Oct 2014 #11
That has been my thought ... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #13
A wonderful thread, it confirms the science, it has silenced the folks that have rejected science Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #17
even if they were.... bmac19gg Oct 2014 #19
Because Corbett doesn't have a stake in the sales of duct tape and plastic sheeting? msanthrope Oct 2014 #31
Sorry. I'll try harder next time uppityperson Oct 2014 #32
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