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DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
54. Just the usual mistaken legacy...
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:10 PM
May 2014

...for calling them X and Y.

It was first noted that the X chromosome was special in 1890 by Hermann Henking in Leipzig. Henking was studying the testicles of Pyrrhocoris and noticed that one chromosome did not take part in meiosis. Chromosomes are so named because of their ability to take up staining. Although the X chromosome could be stained just as well as the others, Henking was unsure whether it was a different class of object and consequently named it X element, which later became X chromosome after it was established that it was indeed a chromosome.

The idea that the X chromosome was named after its similarity to the letter "X" is mistaken. All chromosomes normally appear as an amorphous blob under the microscope and only take on a well defined shape during mitosis. This shape is vaguely X-shaped for all chromosomes. It is entirely coincidental that the Y chromosome, during mitosis, has two very short branches which can look merged under the microscope and appear as the descender of a Y-shape.


It was first suggested that the X chromosome was involved in sex determination by Clarence Erwin McClung in 1901 after comparing his work on locusts with Henking's and others. McClung noted that only half the sperm received an X chromosome. He called this chromosome an accessory chromosome and insisted, correctly, that it was a proper chromosome, and theorized, incorrectly, that it was the male determining chromosome.

The Y chromosome was identified as a sex-determining chromosome by Nettie Stevens at Bryn Mawr College in 1905 during a study of the mealworm Tenebrio molitor. Edmund Beecher Wilson discovered the same mechanisms the same year in an independent manner. Stevens proposed that chromosomes always existed in pairs and that the Y chromosome was the pair of the X chromosome discovered in 1890 by Hermann Henking. She realized that the previous idea of Clarence Erwin McClung, that the X chromosome determines sex, was wrong and that sex determination is, in fact, due to the presence or absence of the Y chromosome. Stevens named the chromosome "Y" simply to follow on from Henking's "X" alphabetically.[4][5]

The idea that the Y chromosome was named after its similarity to the letter "Y" is mistaken. All chromosomes normally appear as an amorphous blob under the microscope and only take on a well-defined shape during mitosis. This shape is vaguely X-shaped for all chromosomes. It is entirely coincidental that the Y chromosome, during mitosis, has two very short branches which can look merged under the microscope and appear as the descender of a Y-shape.
Let me tell you about Women [View all] uppityperson May 2014 OP
A very astute observation. MineralMan May 2014 #1
Thank you. I tried to do one without the qualifier but could not come up with anything that would uppityperson May 2014 #2
Qualifiers are usually good. MineralMan May 2014 #4
I don't know - I never seen no chromosome. nt el_bryanto May 2014 #3
You need one of those electron microscope thingies. MineralMan May 2014 #6
Spendy, I like that word. Is it yours? Whisp May 2014 #10
I believe the patent on that word belongs to the State of Minnesota. n/t TygrBright May 2014 #12
Nope. That's a Minnesnowta word, you betcha. MineralMan May 2014 #38
Thanks, Margie. :) Whisp May 2014 #43
Nope, it's easy to tell 'em apart. riqster May 2014 #11
DUzy! hedda_foil May 2014 #21
LOL! MineralMan May 2014 #39
It's a junior-high-school joke, but a good one. riqster May 2014 #42
A junior high joke that's actually funny? Brigid May 2014 #50
Yep, kinda like unicorns, hard to find. riqster May 2014 #55
DUzy malaise May 2014 #47
In order to tell male from female chromosomes... AnneD May 2014 #14
Great minds and all that. riqster May 2014 #26
Thank you! zappaman May 2014 #5
Well, there's nuttin controversial 'bout that!! Sissyk May 2014 #7
Shocking theory you have there. Autumn May 2014 #8
Lies from the pit of Hell! riqster May 2014 #13
We won't even talk about... AnneD May 2014 #15
Why do you hate America? cyberswede May 2014 #9
That's all I needed to know. Gemini Cat May 2014 #16
The genotypical sexual expression of humans differs from members of the hymenoptera order MohRokTah May 2014 #17
We WASPS are members of sulphurdunn May 2014 #33
Let me tell you about "the" women Politicalboi May 2014 #18
Was thinking the same! Helen Borg May 2014 #19
Glad I wasn't the only one Politicalboi May 2014 #20
Not a bit of it, me too. riqster May 2014 #28
Hey, I started to say, 'No thanks, Clive!' Thanks all above for posting first. freshwest May 2014 #30
His would have started, "Let me tell you about the Woman". riqster May 2014 #31
Got a point there. Singular not plural; but he means ALL, which is plural. Tired of being told what freshwest May 2014 #34
Yah hey, he meant plural I think. Like "the cattle", or "the chicken". riqster May 2014 #41
Trying to divide Democrats, I see. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #22
You're shittin' us, right? AAO May 2014 #23
. MohRokTah May 2014 #24
then X and Y are lies. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #27
lol!! Sissyk May 2014 #40
Spooky! I think I remember that now. AAO May 2014 #29
Because the chromosomes look that way. Wimmenz haz 8. Menz haz 7. freshwest May 2014 #35
I'm a man, and pretty much a pain in the ass. riqster May 2014 #57
Just the usual mistaken legacy... DreamGypsy May 2014 #54
If it wasn't for women the population would have died out thousands of years ago LynneSin May 2014 #25
I heard it said like this: riqster May 2014 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #37
I'm talking human species only LynneSin May 2014 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #46
Man it's a rough crowd tonight LynneSin May 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #49
Next time you feel like getting nit-picking call the Wham!bulance LynneSin May 2014 #51
Very true! freshwest May 2014 #44
I got yer chromosomes right here buddy! panader0 May 2014 #36
Let me tell you about everybody Taitertots May 2014 #52
It would take too long to explain the thought process - even if I could - that led me to think of scarletwoman May 2014 #53
Could you imagine the horror AAO May 2014 #56
"Sapiens"... the Latin word for "wise" Flying Squirrel May 2014 #58
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