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Let me tell you about Women (Original Post) uppityperson May 2014 OP
A very astute observation. MineralMan May 2014 #1
Thank you. I tried to do one without the qualifier but could not come up with anything that would uppityperson May 2014 #2
Qualifiers are usually good. MineralMan May 2014 #4
I don't know - I never seen no chromosome. nt el_bryanto May 2014 #3
You need one of those electron microscope thingies. MineralMan May 2014 #6
Spendy, I like that word. Is it yours? Whisp May 2014 #10
I believe the patent on that word belongs to the State of Minnesota. n/t TygrBright May 2014 #12
Nope. That's a Minnesnowta word, you betcha. MineralMan May 2014 #38
Thanks, Margie. :) Whisp May 2014 #43
Nope, it's easy to tell 'em apart. riqster May 2014 #11
DUzy! hedda_foil May 2014 #21
LOL! MineralMan May 2014 #39
It's a junior-high-school joke, but a good one. riqster May 2014 #42
A junior high joke that's actually funny? Brigid May 2014 #50
Yep, kinda like unicorns, hard to find. riqster May 2014 #55
DUzy malaise May 2014 #47
In order to tell male from female chromosomes... AnneD May 2014 #14
Great minds and all that. riqster May 2014 #26
Thank you! zappaman May 2014 #5
Well, there's nuttin controversial 'bout that!! Sissyk May 2014 #7
Shocking theory you have there. Autumn May 2014 #8
Lies from the pit of Hell! riqster May 2014 #13
We won't even talk about... AnneD May 2014 #15
Why do you hate America? cyberswede May 2014 #9
That's all I needed to know. Gemini Cat May 2014 #16
The genotypical sexual expression of humans differs from members of the hymenoptera order MohRokTah May 2014 #17
We WASPS are members of sulphurdunn May 2014 #33
Let me tell you about "the" women Politicalboi May 2014 #18
Was thinking the same! Helen Borg May 2014 #19
Glad I wasn't the only one Politicalboi May 2014 #20
Not a bit of it, me too. riqster May 2014 #28
Hey, I started to say, 'No thanks, Clive!' Thanks all above for posting first. freshwest May 2014 #30
His would have started, "Let me tell you about the Woman". riqster May 2014 #31
Got a point there. Singular not plural; but he means ALL, which is plural. Tired of being told what freshwest May 2014 #34
Yah hey, he meant plural I think. Like "the cattle", or "the chicken". riqster May 2014 #41
Trying to divide Democrats, I see. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #22
You're shittin' us, right? AAO May 2014 #23
. MohRokTah May 2014 #24
then X and Y are lies. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #27
lol!! Sissyk May 2014 #40
Spooky! I think I remember that now. AAO May 2014 #29
Because the chromosomes look that way. Wimmenz haz 8. Menz haz 7. freshwest May 2014 #35
I'm a man, and pretty much a pain in the ass. riqster May 2014 #57
Just the usual mistaken legacy... DreamGypsy May 2014 #54
If it wasn't for women the population would have died out thousands of years ago LynneSin May 2014 #25
I heard it said like this: riqster May 2014 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #37
I'm talking human species only LynneSin May 2014 #45
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Man it's a rough crowd tonight LynneSin May 2014 #48
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Next time you feel like getting nit-picking call the Wham!bulance LynneSin May 2014 #51
Very true! freshwest May 2014 #44
I got yer chromosomes right here buddy! panader0 May 2014 #36
Let me tell you about everybody Taitertots May 2014 #52
It would take too long to explain the thought process - even if I could - that led me to think of scarletwoman May 2014 #53
Could you imagine the horror AAO May 2014 #56
"Sapiens"... the Latin word for "wise" Flying Squirrel May 2014 #58

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. Thank you. I tried to do one without the qualifier but could not come up with anything that would
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:38 PM
May 2014

hold up.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
11. Nope, it's easy to tell 'em apart.
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:54 PM
May 2014

Just ask them to pull down their "genes".




Thank you, I'll be here all week, tip your servers....

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
14. In order to tell male from female chromosomes...
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:07 PM
May 2014

you have to pull down their genes.

Beat me to it rigster...like minds, rolling through the same gutter and all.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
7. Well, there's nuttin controversial 'bout that!!
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:44 PM
May 2014

Why you want to be that way????

I'ma kick and recced anyway!

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
15. We won't even talk about...
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:21 PM
May 2014

All embroys starting out as females until they near the 7th week, per my genetics text.

Yes all fetuses start out is female, though they are already male or female at the DNA level. Actually all fetuses start out as tadpoles more or less. The changes occur if the fetus creates certain male hormones, which sometimes doesn't happen in a baby that is male DNA wise, and sometimes does happen in a fetus that is female DNA wise.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070422070156AA5zJBU

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
17. The genotypical sexual expression of humans differs from members of the hymenoptera order
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:54 PM
May 2014

Bees, wasps, hornets, and ants are all members of the hymenoptera order.

The genotypical sexual expression in the hymenoptera order is dependent upon the number of chromosones. Those with female sexual expression are diploid and those with male sexual expression are haploid. This means that females are born from fertilized eggs where one set of chromosones come from each parent while males are born from unfertilized eggs and have only the chromosones produced by the mother.

So in essence, males in the hymenoptera order are nothing more than sexual reproduction instruments of their mothers, allowing them to pass on only genetic material from their mother.

And now you have a bit of an understanding as to why the only fertile female in a hive filled with unfertile female workers is referred to as a "queen", while the males of the colony are nothing more than "drones".

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
18. Let me tell you about "the" women
Wed May 28, 2014, 04:57 PM
May 2014

They had it better back in the day when all they had to do was raise a family, and listen to their man. Then the government came along, and made them slaves, and made them think they could actually break that glass ceiling.

Your title reminded me of our pal Bundy.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Got a point there. Singular not plural; but he means ALL, which is plural. Tired of being told what
Wed May 28, 2014, 06:49 PM
May 2014
to feel and think by men in general.

My father said I could be whatever I put my mind to and not let bullies, define who I was.

Many males since had so many ideas about how women should feel.

Michelle says it all here:




riqster

(13,986 posts)
41. Yah hey, he meant plural I think. Like "the cattle", or "the chicken".
Wed May 28, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

It's a dark place, where he keeps his head.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
35. Because the chromosomes look that way. Wimmenz haz 8. Menz haz 7.
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:20 PM
May 2014
'Y' is missing a 'leg.' Don't hate Wimmenz for having 8:

Menz: X + Y = 7

Wimmenz: X + X = 8

Don't even start about:



It's ALL good down here on Mother Earth. Besides, Teh Menz are a lot of fun.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
57. I'm a man, and pretty much a pain in the ass.
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:29 PM
May 2014

But I do cook, and know from wines, beers, and booze. So teh feemalez toleratez mee.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
54. Just the usual mistaken legacy...
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:10 PM
May 2014

...for calling them X and Y.

It was first noted that the X chromosome was special in 1890 by Hermann Henking in Leipzig. Henking was studying the testicles of Pyrrhocoris and noticed that one chromosome did not take part in meiosis. Chromosomes are so named because of their ability to take up staining. Although the X chromosome could be stained just as well as the others, Henking was unsure whether it was a different class of object and consequently named it X element, which later became X chromosome after it was established that it was indeed a chromosome.

The idea that the X chromosome was named after its similarity to the letter "X" is mistaken. All chromosomes normally appear as an amorphous blob under the microscope and only take on a well defined shape during mitosis. This shape is vaguely X-shaped for all chromosomes. It is entirely coincidental that the Y chromosome, during mitosis, has two very short branches which can look merged under the microscope and appear as the descender of a Y-shape.


It was first suggested that the X chromosome was involved in sex determination by Clarence Erwin McClung in 1901 after comparing his work on locusts with Henking's and others. McClung noted that only half the sperm received an X chromosome. He called this chromosome an accessory chromosome and insisted, correctly, that it was a proper chromosome, and theorized, incorrectly, that it was the male determining chromosome.

The Y chromosome was identified as a sex-determining chromosome by Nettie Stevens at Bryn Mawr College in 1905 during a study of the mealworm Tenebrio molitor. Edmund Beecher Wilson discovered the same mechanisms the same year in an independent manner. Stevens proposed that chromosomes always existed in pairs and that the Y chromosome was the pair of the X chromosome discovered in 1890 by Hermann Henking. She realized that the previous idea of Clarence Erwin McClung, that the X chromosome determines sex, was wrong and that sex determination is, in fact, due to the presence or absence of the Y chromosome. Stevens named the chromosome "Y" simply to follow on from Henking's "X" alphabetically.[4][5]

The idea that the Y chromosome was named after its similarity to the letter "Y" is mistaken. All chromosomes normally appear as an amorphous blob under the microscope and only take on a well-defined shape during mitosis. This shape is vaguely X-shaped for all chromosomes. It is entirely coincidental that the Y chromosome, during mitosis, has two very short branches which can look merged under the microscope and appear as the descender of a Y-shape.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
25. If it wasn't for women the population would have died out thousands of years ago
Wed May 28, 2014, 05:30 PM
May 2014

Just saying!

Of course to be fair the same thing could be said if there were no men.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
32. I heard it said like this:
Wed May 28, 2014, 06:07 PM
May 2014

"If it weren't for women taking up with the wrong sort of men, the human race would have long ago died out", or something like it.

Hard to argue with, I would say, regardless of one's gender.

Response to LynneSin (Reply #25)

Response to LynneSin (Reply #45)

Response to LynneSin (Reply #48)

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
52. Let me tell you about everybody
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:32 PM
May 2014

We all need to love each other (especially our enemies), help each other (especially our enemies), and build a world that we want to share with each other. Then we will find that the people we thought were are enemies are really just as important as we are.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
53. It would take too long to explain the thought process - even if I could - that led me to think of
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:35 PM
May 2014

Jame Tiptree, Jr's (Alice Bradley Sheldon) novella, "Houston, Houston, Do You Read?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_Houston,_Do_You_Read%3F

To anyone who might have read this story - maybe you'll understand.

To those who have not read it - please just kindly ignore this post. It would take more time and patience than either you or I have to explain it.

To uppityperson - your OP is right on. My mind just slid sideways...

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
58. "Sapiens"... the Latin word for "wise"
Thu May 29, 2014, 12:36 AM
May 2014

Methinks we should change the species name to more accurately reflect reality.

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