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In reply to the discussion: Warren, Clinton, Sanders, etc. Who would you vote for? [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)This is a legit liberal who has demonstrated the ability to win a statewide general election in a swing state and a real track record.
I'd go with Bernie next. I like Bernie more but 20 years and Vermont vs. Ohio is tough to overcome.
I like Warren but consider her to have too many spots where I'm not sure of where she stands.
I also tend think the shitty political environment makes her seem leftist when she really is just a moderate that believes in a fair shake for everyone. More a throwback to the pre - Reagan era, middle of the road than flaming liberal.
In any event, any of those three would need one of the others or someone even more frightening to the establishment and robber barons to keep them alive and kicking. Ticket balance my ass, we'd need a big insurance policy.
Clinton and that set? Suicidal long term but noticeably less immediately stupidly dangerous than a theocratic Tea idiot, more of a slower boil for our frog in the pot. Perhaps more truly dangerous to any future though as I have little doubt we'd see a continuation of the deliberalization of the party and assimilating more personality driven folks to the corporate/imperialism/security state bulls hit fold leaving us with ever less ability to change the tune from 'Fiddle while Rome Burns'.
All three further handicap the Senate and give the corporate owned machine Democrats to sneak a turd into the punch bowl, which brings us back to the newly vastly understated obstacle to really getting at problems, the Senate.
Not this one in particular but as an institution in general though somewhat disguised by the advent of the nutter House over the last several years but over time it has proven to the check on people power.
When the Republicans control it, matters are worse but it is seldom
I believe on the flip side of that coin, if we could get the rights folks in their much of the other nonsense would get weeded out under advise and consent, oversight powers, and sheer ability to gum up the works in addition to legislative function.