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Scootaloo

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35. So every time the govermnet changes, that invalidates previous agreements?

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 09:07 PM

Mar 2014

While I support that in principle when talking about transitions from autocratic to democratic governments, I can't hold to it when the change is between two democratic governments, or from democratic to autocratic. For that matter, international law has consistently held that in either case, new governments are bound to the agreements of old ones... which is why several Latin American countries still owe money for the massive loans their now-deposed dictators took out decades ago, which is why the current governmet of Egypt holds to several Ottoman-era treaties, etc.

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If you think Putin is bad on GLBT Rights...Check out the New Ukraine Parliament! [View all] KoKo Mar 2014 OP

Kick for an interesting read...different from our MS Cable Media. KoKo Mar 2014 #1

and they're both wrong. doesn't make russia any better. do try not to use GLBTs as pawns... dionysus Mar 2014 #2

! "do try not to use GLBTs as pawns" sibelian Mar 2014 #3

No one here said Russia is any better YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #9

it's been implied a lot, or posited that we are "just as bad", all the time here. dionysus Mar 2014 #12

I meant "no one in this thread" YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #14

oh, okay. in that context you're right. dionysus Mar 2014 #15

The Putin Propaganda copy and paste crowd Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #4

he's dreamy.. and ultra liberally n stuff... stickin it to the meal ol PTB of the west! dionysus Mar 2014 #6

how is pointing out that there are creeps and bigots on both sides in the cali Mar 2014 #8

I agree about the need for the right wingers in Ukraine Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #16

If you recognize that Putin is square in the middle in terms of Eastern Orthodox politics... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #34

Oh, is that the meme now? YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #10

Yeah, that article is just chock full of Putin Putin Putin. progressoid Mar 2014 #17

Really? Lolol. That's your defense? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #19

Defense? progressoid Mar 2014 #22

The article is about the reactionary right's seizure of power in the wake of the revolution Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26

There has been a steady stream of exaggerations about malevolence of Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #27

Pardon me if I'm reading you wrong, but... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30

gays are allowed to adopt in ukraine JI7 Mar 2014 #5

UPDATE: The Banning of Gay Adoption was in 2011 by Ukraine... KoKo Mar 2014 #13

You'll have to be more specific. On what day did this new government in Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #18

I just searched on the Guardian and found no article saying adoption laws were changed Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #21

I searched POSTER #5 's statement about NEW Ukraine Parliament COUP banning Gay Adoption... KoKo Mar 2014 #37

2011 was when Yanukovych was president. pampango Mar 2014 #44

Not if they're in a same-sex relationship, actually Scootaloo Mar 2014 #29

So both Russia and Ukraine are bad when it comes to LGBT rights. Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #7

Agreed. YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #11

They didn't "Invade" Ukraine... They protected their Bases in Russian KoKo Mar 2014 #20

Ok...just looked at a map. Crimea is part of Ukraine. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #23

Yes...it is. Maybe do a Google or Wiki (although their stuff is often partisan or KoKo Mar 2014 #25

I'd like a link about your claim about the adoption rules. Thanks again. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #24

Poster #5 said that New Parliament introduced it..but they were Incorrect... KoKo Mar 2014 #38

It wasn't MY Claim but Poster #5...JI7 KoKo Mar 2014 #40

So you would support the US pouring 10K troops into Guantanamo and securing the area around it? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #28

Well, given that Cuba doesn't recognize any US right to Guantanamo... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #32

Same difference. The current Ukrainian government didn't sign that deal with Russia nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #33

So every time the govermnet changes, that invalidates previous agreements? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #35

No, but such agreements aren't a waiver of sovereignty. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #36

They have a 30 year lease on that base that absolutely no one was threatening. pampango Mar 2014 #45

Svoboda represents the 10% in Ukraine. Putin's party, the majority. joshcryer Mar 2014 #31

But in 2011 in the Ukraine .... KoKo Mar 2014 #39

This eye-opening piece was linked by frazzle: freshwest Mar 2014 #41

"Democracy Now" interviewed Professor Snyder & Nicolai Petro in Ukraine Discussion KoKo Mar 2014 #42

...1 KoKo Mar 2014 #43