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In reply to the discussion: Obama Promises Disappear from Web [View all]cui bono
(19,926 posts)The rest of your post became a blah blah blah to me after that. In fact, I don't understand your first sentence at all, perhaps you mistyped?
People are people, just discuss the issue at hand and you won't have to point to the list, unless there's something on "the list" that negates a point someone is making, but even then, you need not mention "a list", you need only refute the point being made.
My experience is that too many people on this board defend Obama blindly and simply won't/can't accept that any criticism of him is valid at all, and so all they can do is respond with "the list" or with something positive Obama did. Problem is that has nothing to do with what was being criticized. Or the response is what you are saying above, that all they hear is criticism. Fact of the matter is, there is way too much to criticize about Obama, and unless you want to play a team sport where your team must always be defended no matter what, you must stand for principles and criticize when elected officials don't.
So, if there is a post criticizing the NSA operations, or the drone strikes, there's no point bringing out the list since that does nothing to add to a discussion of those programs. And responding by stating that some people just want to criticize isn't discussing either of those programs at all either. All you have to do is refute those things with discussion about those things. If you find yourself being called a "cheerleader" that's not good for discussion and shouldn't be done. I would hope that you aren't one, but there are a lot of people on here who are defending unconstitutional behavior and republican policies just because Obama is doing it, so I can understand why people feel there are "cheerleaders" on here. I certainly do. I mean I've had people tell me he never did things that had already been reported as having been done, then when a link was provided they STILL denied it happened. That's just not rational.