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graham4anything

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38. my response to some comments above is as always FORWARD,Hillary winning landslide with voters united
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:10 AM
Jun 2013

Add President Obama's supporters- 95% of President Obama's supporters heavily support President Obama
95% of President Obama's supporters heavily support Hillary Clinton for President in 2016
100% of Hillary's supporters heavily support Hillary for President in 2016

conclusion- there is NO way anyone else but Hillary will be the democratic nominee for President in 2016 by far.
There are NOT enough other voters out there to vote for anyone but Hillary and Hillary has so many supporters, that it goes
without saying Hillary will be the next President by a landslide, and like in 2008 and 2012

with the direct support of President Obama, Michelle Obama, Joe Biden and so many other DEMOCRATIC people behind her,
the voters SHALL COME OUT no matter how hard it will be in some states to vote

And IMHO, red states today will and shall vote for Hillary and she will also turn Texas blue

I was sure of this before this week

I am 100times more sure of this today, after the abysmal Voting rights acts bill the other day, it has woken everybody up,
and except for some wedge issues otherwise, people are looking at this and I have never been so sure of anything except that I knew President Obama would become President, I am sure Hillary will be our next President.

The only thing we don't know is, who is her VP.

As for the 2008 president race, all that is behind both Hillary and President Obama. Ancient backward past.
Both of them long ago settled that, by the single most ingenious political move since LBJ accepted the VP with JFK.

President Obama's offering of SOS to Hillary was HIS OWN DOING. Many on his staff were startled by it and it wasn't their idea
President Obama tossed his ego out the window (unlike other times in the past when ego caused startling embarrising fracture like in 1980 for instance among other things)

and then Hillary, also did the same and accepted the job, and in doing so, worked to move FORWARD

I was a Barack Obama supporter way back in 2004, and was obviously for him in 2008 primaries.

I myself cannot recall any other time in history(my history) that someone I was not for, EARNED my vote and my respect forever
as Hillary has done by putting aside the acrimony, by her not sulking like others in the past after they did not win the primary
(and especially I am thinking of Bill Bradley who now has up and disappeared from the scene for years, just recently coming back
to side with the President, but after his loss to Al Gore, (he would have made a great VP), he just left the arena.

Hillary put aside the 2008 race, and became the best SOS we have had.

And note-a few weeks ago, it was released that the 3 people who ran her campaign and did so badly (Penn especially) all 3
will NOT - repeat NOT be working with her this time. So they will have nothing to do with 2016 at all.
Of that we can all applaud.

Hopefully Hillary will have either officially or unofficially, Plouffe and Axelrod working with her during the general election season
and like they did with President Obama, get every single person out to the polls no matter the obstacle.

Every true President Obama and Hillary supporter knows this-the only thing that can stop the democratic party from winning in 2016
is fracture.
No true democratic supporter wants to lose in 2016.
The only people who would not want the democratic party to win in 2016, are the ones who will be campaigning against the democratic party and hoping the republican party gets into office.

I am sure, as President Obama says, we should all dwell on FORWARD and not replay any negativity from the 2008 race.

Because surely, together BOTH contestants from 2008 will be President.
And, in retrospect, Hillary will have the ability to be president without a lot of the crap President Obama has had to go through.
It all would have(in different ways of course) been similliar had HIllary won.
Instead of the overt and covert racism, it would have been sexism.
But in 2016, it will be such a landslide, and with the senate being very easily in 2016 able to win a landslide for the democratic party based on who is running then (the 1/3 seats running (as opposed to 2014 when chance has made it harder based on which of the 1/3 is running again), come 2017, the democratic party will have all 3 branches, and most likely

in 2017 or 2018, the US Supreme Court will have that game changing seat open and the democratic party will again have a court
that is 5 to 4 for, instead of 5 to 4 against.
(figuring the next two Obama appointments will be status equal appointments for a retiring Ginsberg(2015) and Breyer.)

The ones after shall be the game changers.

well maybe one dsc Jun 2013 #1
George Washington too pscot Jun 2013 #3
And Harrison and Jackson. Less so Garfield, Tyler, and Pierce (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #18
dog save us all, if that is the case. Whisp Jun 2013 #2
"us" ? DURHAM D Jun 2013 #6
oh, I know what you mean. Whisp Jun 2013 #7
I have no clue what your freedom Fry reference is about. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #9
The rest will be trooping in soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #12
I think you have me confused with others with that NAFTA thing. Whisp Jun 2013 #15
Blaming Hillary for NAFTA has been your thing for years. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #17
now I'm sure you have me mixed up with someone else. Whisp Jun 2013 #19
keep dancing DURHAM D Jun 2013 #21
if it's that important to you, I will accept your accusation on NAFTA. Whisp Jun 2013 #23
right. you've never heard of "freedom fries". delrem Jun 2013 #32
And then DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #4
You tell 'em, Nate!!! nt MADem Jun 2013 #5
And Jebby Bush is giving her a medal.......... Historic NY Jun 2013 #8
Oh, that's going to go well around here. Beacool Jun 2013 #10
Yep. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #11
The bitters will be here soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #13
Good gods, I hope she's not the nominee. Apophis Jun 2013 #14
If she runs... she is. Not really a question. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #22
So it's going to be a Republican vs a Republican-lite for President. Apophis Jun 2013 #24
Don't be a child. gcomeau Jun 2013 #25
Yeah. Hyperbole. Apophis Jun 2013 #28
The eye rolling indicates... gcomeau Jun 2013 #31
exactly: it'll be a republican vs a republican. Simple. delrem Jun 2013 #33
OK, Corporatist Republican vs Corporatist Dem. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #36
Really, not Nixon in 1960? hughee99 Jun 2013 #16
Nixon was the incumbent VP in 1960 tritsofme Jun 2013 #29
As sorry, I need to pay attention. n/t hughee99 Jun 2013 #30
Heh! I was wondering when hillary4anything would chime in!! madinmaryland Jun 2013 #20
If she runs for the Democratic nomination, I will happily campaign against her. David__77 Jun 2013 #26
Are you talking from the perspective of an Obama supporter? stevenleser Jun 2013 #27
I'm not so sure of her loyalty as SoS. Whisp Jun 2013 #35
+1. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #57
Detestable??????? Beacool Jun 2013 #34
She did run a bad campaign. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #37
That's a matter of opinion. Beacool Jun 2013 #41
I'm not thrilled with what we ended up with either. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #43
The Clintons never make the same mistake twice. Beacool Jun 2013 #47
well, that's the problem for Hillary right there: what you said: Whisp Jun 2013 #48
Oh, you're so clever......... Beacool Jun 2013 #49
It was Hillary supporters who moved Fla's primary date up, HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #56
No, that's not so. Beacool Jun 2013 #58
Bullshit. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #60
Yeah, whatever. Beacool Jun 2013 #62
my response to some comments above is as always FORWARD,Hillary winning landslide with voters united graham4anything Jun 2013 #38
What are you on that's giving you these hallucinations? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #65
"Hillary is a monster" -Samantha Power, Obama's designate for UN Ambassador Fumesucker Jun 2013 #39
We move ahead by moving forward. 95% of the voters landslide victory.The other 5%, oh well. graham4anything Jun 2013 #40
Yeah, and she had to quit his campaign. Beacool Jun 2013 #50
It was a gaffe, defined as a politician inadvertently telling the truth n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #55
Truth???? Beacool Jun 2013 #59
Ugh. 3rd Way warmonger who trumpeted Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #42
Yes she did. Will never forget that. Though closeupready Jun 2013 #61
She won't get my vote, no matter what DU demands I do n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #44
Suit yourself. Beacool Jun 2013 #51
Who cares, it's 2013. marmar Jun 2013 #45
Cory Booker Oct. 2013 senate vs. a Koch brotherbacked ultra conservative graham4anything Jun 2013 #46
Credible BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #52
Same was said in 2007, how did that turn out? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #53
Hopefully we get an actual progressive candidate to run against her. PoliticalPothead Jun 2013 #54
She's not ready. Beacool Jun 2013 #64
your judgement on readiness needs some work Whisp Jun 2013 #68
Your judgment on anything Clinton needs even more work. Beacool Jun 2013 #71
Oh, you want to talk about pardons, do you? Marc Rich. Whisp Jun 2013 #73
Yeah, so? Beacool Jun 2013 #76
Except that this time there won't be another Obama coming out of the woodwork. Beacool Jun 2013 #63
How do you know? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #66
Obama had come out of the woodwork 4 years beforehand via a convention speech that 38 million stevenleser Jun 2013 #67
maybe so that there is no Obama this time around but Whisp Jun 2013 #69
No, she wasn't. Beacool Jun 2013 #70
Benghazi, Schmenghazi... it's the State Dept Sex Assault and Pedophilia scandal Whisp Jun 2013 #72
You bore me............ Beacool Jun 2013 #75
Hopefully majority of the voters would wake up and finally elect someone better than that. idwiyo Jun 2013 #74
I won't vote for her mick063 Jun 2013 #77
I vow that I will NOT tear down any candidate that runs against Hillary. graham4anything Jun 2013 #78
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