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dutch777

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4. Either laughable PR by Hamas or admission of complete stupidity. With Bibi and the RWers in charge....really??!?!?!?

Sun Feb 25, 2024, 12:02 PM

Feb 25

Perhaps it is over the top but Israeli response was going to be an incursion and gut punch of major proportions to a substantive degree. And as much as I disagree with the amount of innocent Palestinian death and suffering, I won't forgive Hamas just because they say "Ooops! We miscalculated." I hope the Palestinians themselves feel the same way.

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Hamas 'could not have anticipated' Israel's response to October 7, official says [View all] Beastly Boy Feb 25 OP

WTF is this Hamas official's job if not to anticipate the response to Hamas' planned terrorist attack upon Israel? Freethinker65 Feb 25 #1

WTF is right. Hamas violently attacks Israel but had no idea Isreal would attack back even more... brush Feb 25 #38

I think Hamas was shocked by the success of the attack Johnny2X2X Feb 25 #2

I disagree. I think Hamas had help from Iran and others. yardwork Feb 25 #5

Israel Lowers Oct. 7 Death Toll Estimate From 1,400 to 1,200 Celerity Feb 25 #59

This is kind of the essence of asymmetrical warfare. Walleye Feb 25 #3

In the past it worked for Israel to out crazy the other crazies in the neighborhood. Igel Feb 25 #25

Either laughable PR by Hamas or admission of complete stupidity. With Bibi and the RWers in charge....really??!?!?!? dutch777 Feb 25 #4

Possible cover for Hamas leadership complicity in provoking exactly what they knew would happen. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #17

It's impossible that any informed, sane person would have expected anything else. yardwork Feb 25 #27

It's "We had no idea Israel was so evil! Can you believe they're more evil than we thought?" Sympthsical Feb 25 #18

What a bold faced lie! --- "because, ultimately, the resistance fights soldiers" keithbvadu2 Feb 25 #6

I Don't Think They Expected Quite What They Got, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #7

do you know why they didn't expect the force of Israel's agingdem Feb 25 #10

I think they fully anticipated the response. In fact, their leaders openly and explicitly welcomed it. Beastly Boy Feb 25 #13

You Make A Good Case, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #16

It was fertile ground, Sir. yardwork Feb 25 #31

the Hamas false outrage campaign began almost agingdem Feb 25 #24

Why hasn't Netanyahu realized this with his totally indiscriminate use of force? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #29

Hamas didn't think it through. That's for sure. jimfields33 Feb 25 #33

With their long history, it would be almost impossible for Hamas leadership to not know Uncle Joe Feb 25 #35

I don't know, but once it happened, Israel went all in. All countries would. jimfields33 Feb 25 #36

I have little doubt we would use these scorched earth tactics, we did it in Vietnam and Cambodia. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #41

You Must Know What Bullshit You Are Peddling, Sir, In Your 29 Above The Magistrate Feb 25 #40

That's a very simplistic approach to a 75 year old Groundhog Day Uncle Joe Feb 25 #43

War Is A Very Simple Thing, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #47

Do you believe that a person's environment can shape their character and perceptions of reality? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #49

Hamas stated goal is the genocide of the Jews, per their charter NickB79 Feb 25 #56

You don't make peace treaties with your friends. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #58

You make peace with those willing to seek it. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #79

I Am Well Aware Of the History Here, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #60

You should know that context changes everything Uncle Joe Feb 25 #61

Whatever The Magistrate Feb 25 #65

So you're defining the Palestinian People based on a possible pre-election poll? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #70

I Am Observing the Circumstances, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #71

Well that's good, but circumstances without context Uncle Joe Feb 25 #73

Hamas are lunatic, nihilistic terrorists. They don't "think through" Bucky Feb 25 #52

Look. Israel cannot lose sight of survival. jimfields33 Feb 25 #53

You got to keep shooting water at the wasp nest Bucky Feb 25 #57

The world can dispense with Hamas in a way it feels is more palatable TheKentuckian Feb 25 #50

I am not sure what exactly Netanyahu was supposed to realize. Beastly Boy Feb 25 #63

Is that why the IDF shot their own hostages waving a white flag? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #66

Oh, Yeah, That Was A Direct Order Down From the Top: See A Hostage Waving A White Flag, Shoot Him The Magistrate Feb 25 #72

and the 2000 lb bombs dropped on high density area, the cutting off Uncle Joe Feb 25 #74

The main perpetrators of the indistinction between Palestinians and Hamas are Hamas NickB79 Feb 25 #82

If you seriously think IDF target their own hostages, or Beastly Boy Feb 25 #77

Just A Bit Of Errant Pedantry, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #69

What is an "open air prison"? yagotme Feb 26 #86

I agree. The propaganda didn't work as well as planned. yardwork Feb 25 #30

Good to see you Sir. I don't really have anything to add at this hour of the morning.... Hekate Feb 25 #34

Thank You, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 25 #48

We had that back in August -- miserable stuff. Fortunately, hubby got it after me... Hekate Feb 25 #54

I stopped reading at Hamas spokesman's use of term "barbaric". I mean really, WTF? RandomNumbers Feb 25 #8

Barbaric, Sadistic, Medieval Terrorist Gang Raping HAMAS PROJECTS! Cha Feb 25 #42

I'm not buying it dlk Feb 25 #9

They are trying to fool Gazans RandomNumbers Feb 25 #64

He is full of JustAnotherGen Feb 25 #11

Okay, that's a line of nonsense. limbicnuminousity Feb 25 #12

They used the hostages as bargaining chips and it didn't go their way. LeftInTX Feb 25 #14

Wait, wait, let me get my violin!! Coventina Feb 25 #15

How much does Hamas care about the lives of ordinary Gazans/Palestinians? keithbvadu2 Feb 25 #19

Retribution can be a bitch, as Hamas has found out. republianmushroom Feb 25 #20

I'm all for no next time. Time to nip it in the bud. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #21

Hamas officials have said this is just the start. There will be a next time. republianmushroom Feb 25 #22

I wasn't saying they did not have the intent. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #23

Well fuck you (Hamas) and the horse you rode in on. RandySF Feb 25 #26

Irony is dead REALLY. elleng Feb 25 #28

I think Netty has been looking for an excuse to do exactly what they are doing...nt Wounded Bear Feb 25 #32

No idea what he's thinking TexasDem69 Feb 25 #80

What total bullshit................................... Lovie777 Feb 25 #37

Fuck around and find out. Lunabell Feb 25 #39

Well Said, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 25 #45

Bull F Shit, Mousa Abu Marzouk ... your Stupid Sales Pitch Cha Feb 25 #44

Hamas only makes statements when they need to BootinUp Feb 25 #46

Exactly. TY Cha Feb 25 #62

Couldn't anticipate? Israel is doing the VERY thing Hamas wanted. Bucky Feb 25 #51

What longterm sentiment do you think Hamas engendered? TheKentuckian Feb 25 #55

Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #75

In the past, Israel has bent over backwards for hostages. LeftInTX Feb 26 #88

Are you fucking kidding me? edisdead Feb 25 #67

For a long time Turbineguy Feb 25 #68

That is the path to peace. There will be none as long TheKentuckian Feb 25 #81

The Palestinians have a 30 year head start down the rabbit hole Turbineguy Feb 26 #84

Quite a bit longer than that but yeah. TheKentuckian Feb 26 #89

Like Hamas pulled a silly prank and Israel overreacted? no_hypocrisy Feb 25 #76

Slaughtered, mutilated, tortured, burned alive, kidnapped.... agingdem Feb 25 #78

Well, they know now Mountainguy Feb 26 #83

At this point, I think Hamas and Israel are trying to one-up each other on who cares least for Palestinian lives n/t Silent3 Feb 26 #85

I believe Hamas is the winner there. yagotme Feb 26 #87