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Beastly Boy

(9,359 posts) Sun Feb 25, 2024, 11:52 AM Feb 25

Hamas 'could not have anticipated' Israel's response to October 7, official says [View all]

Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzouk claimed that Hamas did not anticipate Israel’s response to its October 7 massacre, according to a translation of an interview given to Egypt’s Alghad TV on Thursday by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

Asked by the interviewer, “When the [al-Qassam] brigades did what they did on October 7, did they have any expectations regarding the consequences of the attack?” Marzouk responded that nobody had anticipated Israel’s response.

“Nobody in the whole world expected them to be so barbaric,” Marzouk said. “And in Such violation of all international laws, treaties, and norms. Nobody expected the [Israeli response] to be so barbaric because, ultimately, the resistance fights soldiers. It is not fighting civilians with planes and tanks.”

The same Hamas official claimed in October that terror tunnels had been constructed to protect Hamas terrorists and that it was Israel's and the United Nation's responsibility to protect Palestinian civilian lives.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-788764

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All those years of planning a spontaneous peaceful sight-seeing tour into Israel, politely inviting over 200 Israelis into Gaza as honored guests and digging tunnels under schools and hospitals for the exclusive use of benevolent Hamas jihadis, and the consequences are totally unanticipated.

Irony is dead.

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Hamas 'could not have anticipated' Israel's response to October 7, official says [View all] Beastly Boy Feb 25 OP

WTF is this Hamas official's job if not to anticipate the response to Hamas' planned terrorist attack upon Israel? Freethinker65 Feb 25 #1

WTF is right. Hamas violently attacks Israel but had no idea Isreal would attack back even more... brush Feb 25 #38

I think Hamas was shocked by the success of the attack Johnny2X2X Feb 25 #2

I disagree. I think Hamas had help from Iran and others. yardwork Feb 25 #5

Israel Lowers Oct. 7 Death Toll Estimate From 1,400 to 1,200 Celerity Feb 25 #59

This is kind of the essence of asymmetrical warfare. Walleye Feb 25 #3

In the past it worked for Israel to out crazy the other crazies in the neighborhood. Igel Feb 25 #25

Either laughable PR by Hamas or admission of complete stupidity. With Bibi and the RWers in charge....really??!?!?!? dutch777 Feb 25 #4

Possible cover for Hamas leadership complicity in provoking exactly what they knew would happen. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #17

It's impossible that any informed, sane person would have expected anything else. yardwork Feb 25 #27

It's "We had no idea Israel was so evil! Can you believe they're more evil than we thought?" Sympthsical Feb 25 #18

What a bold faced lie! --- "because, ultimately, the resistance fights soldiers" keithbvadu2 Feb 25 #6

I Don't Think They Expected Quite What They Got, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #7

do you know why they didn't expect the force of Israel's agingdem Feb 25 #10

I think they fully anticipated the response. In fact, their leaders openly and explicitly welcomed it. Beastly Boy Feb 25 #13

You Make A Good Case, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #16

It was fertile ground, Sir. yardwork Feb 25 #31

the Hamas false outrage campaign began almost agingdem Feb 25 #24

Why hasn't Netanyahu realized this with his totally indiscriminate use of force? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #29

Hamas didn't think it through. That's for sure. jimfields33 Feb 25 #33

With their long history, it would be almost impossible for Hamas leadership to not know Uncle Joe Feb 25 #35

I don't know, but once it happened, Israel went all in. All countries would. jimfields33 Feb 25 #36

I have little doubt we would use these scorched earth tactics, we did it in Vietnam and Cambodia. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #41

You Must Know What Bullshit You Are Peddling, Sir, In Your 29 Above The Magistrate Feb 25 #40

That's a very simplistic approach to a 75 year old Groundhog Day Uncle Joe Feb 25 #43

War Is A Very Simple Thing, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #47

Do you believe that a person's environment can shape their character and perceptions of reality? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #49

Hamas stated goal is the genocide of the Jews, per their charter NickB79 Feb 25 #56

You don't make peace treaties with your friends. Uncle Joe Feb 25 #58

You make peace with those willing to seek it. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #79

I Am Well Aware Of the History Here, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #60

You should know that context changes everything Uncle Joe Feb 25 #61

Whatever The Magistrate Feb 25 #65

So you're defining the Palestinian People based on a possible pre-election poll? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #70

I Am Observing the Circumstances, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #71

Well that's good, but circumstances without context Uncle Joe Feb 25 #73

Hamas are lunatic, nihilistic terrorists. They don't "think through" Bucky Feb 25 #52

Look. Israel cannot lose sight of survival. jimfields33 Feb 25 #53

You got to keep shooting water at the wasp nest Bucky Feb 25 #57

The world can dispense with Hamas in a way it feels is more palatable TheKentuckian Feb 25 #50

I am not sure what exactly Netanyahu was supposed to realize. Beastly Boy Feb 25 #63

Is that why the IDF shot their own hostages waving a white flag? Uncle Joe Feb 25 #66

Oh, Yeah, That Was A Direct Order Down From the Top: See A Hostage Waving A White Flag, Shoot Him The Magistrate Feb 25 #72

and the 2000 lb bombs dropped on high density area, the cutting off Uncle Joe Feb 25 #74

The main perpetrators of the indistinction between Palestinians and Hamas are Hamas NickB79 Feb 25 #82

If you seriously think IDF target their own hostages, or Beastly Boy Feb 25 #77

Just A Bit Of Errant Pedantry, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #69

What is an "open air prison"? yagotme Feb 26 #86

I agree. The propaganda didn't work as well as planned. yardwork Feb 25 #30

Good to see you Sir. I don't really have anything to add at this hour of the morning.... Hekate Feb 25 #34

Thank You, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 25 #48

We had that back in August -- miserable stuff. Fortunately, hubby got it after me... Hekate Feb 25 #54

I stopped reading at Hamas spokesman's use of term "barbaric". I mean really, WTF? RandomNumbers Feb 25 #8

Barbaric, Sadistic, Medieval Terrorist Gang Raping HAMAS PROJECTS! Cha Feb 25 #42

I'm not buying it dlk Feb 25 #9

They are trying to fool Gazans RandomNumbers Feb 25 #64

He is full of JustAnotherGen Feb 25 #11

Okay, that's a line of nonsense. limbicnuminousity Feb 25 #12

They used the hostages as bargaining chips and it didn't go their way. LeftInTX Feb 25 #14

Wait, wait, let me get my violin!! Coventina Feb 25 #15

How much does Hamas care about the lives of ordinary Gazans/Palestinians? keithbvadu2 Feb 25 #19

Retribution can be a bitch, as Hamas has found out. republianmushroom Feb 25 #20

I'm all for no next time. Time to nip it in the bud. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #21

Hamas officials have said this is just the start. There will be a next time. republianmushroom Feb 25 #22

I wasn't saying they did not have the intent. TheKentuckian Feb 25 #23

Well fuck you (Hamas) and the horse you rode in on. RandySF Feb 25 #26

Irony is dead REALLY. elleng Feb 25 #28

I think Netty has been looking for an excuse to do exactly what they are doing...nt Wounded Bear Feb 25 #32

No idea what he's thinking TexasDem69 Feb 25 #80

What total bullshit................................... Lovie777 Feb 25 #37

Fuck around and find out. Lunabell Feb 25 #39

Well Said, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 25 #45

Bull F Shit, Mousa Abu Marzouk ... your Stupid Sales Pitch Cha Feb 25 #44

Hamas only makes statements when they need to BootinUp Feb 25 #46

Exactly. TY Cha Feb 25 #62

Couldn't anticipate? Israel is doing the VERY thing Hamas wanted. Bucky Feb 25 #51

What longterm sentiment do you think Hamas engendered? TheKentuckian Feb 25 #55

Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Feb 25 #75

In the past, Israel has bent over backwards for hostages. LeftInTX Feb 26 #88

Are you fucking kidding me? edisdead Feb 25 #67

For a long time Turbineguy Feb 25 #68

That is the path to peace. There will be none as long TheKentuckian Feb 25 #81

The Palestinians have a 30 year head start down the rabbit hole Turbineguy Feb 26 #84

Quite a bit longer than that but yeah. TheKentuckian Feb 26 #89

Like Hamas pulled a silly prank and Israel overreacted? no_hypocrisy Feb 25 #76

Slaughtered, mutilated, tortured, burned alive, kidnapped.... agingdem Feb 25 #78

Well, they know now Mountainguy Feb 26 #83

At this point, I think Hamas and Israel are trying to one-up each other on who cares least for Palestinian lives n/t Silent3 Feb 26 #85

I believe Hamas is the winner there. yagotme Feb 26 #87