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Big Blue Marble

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42. Due to split factions and multiple candidates on the Palestinian Authority's ballot in 2007.

Sun Dec 17, 2023, 03:03 AM

Dec 2023

Hamas won with 40% only in Gaza, not the West Bank which is governed by the PA.

In Gaza, the majority of the population have never voted for any party. Any one under
voting age at the time and all who were born in the last 16 years have never had an opportunity
to vote. Do the math, a small minority of current people living in Gaza voted for Hamas.

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Half of us think Israel is bad. Half of us think Hamas and Palestinians [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 OP

Most of us don't think in such simplistic terms: "A is bad!" or "B is bad!" RockRaven Dec 2023 #1

This !!!👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Dec 2023 #4

What??? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #12

I have not seen any defense of Hamas FHRRK Dec 2023 #53

Then there is the general Palestinian people to consider. I look at it as, both sides are right and both sides are wrong 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #57

Hamas is evil. applegrove Dec 2023 #5

What is your point? RockRaven Dec 2023 #7

It would be great if you just spoke straight forward?. Just saying:( Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #9

Nope. The OP equated Hamas and Palestinians. That is propaganda. applegrove Dec 2023 #10

Okay, I now see what you were saying. Thank you. nt RockRaven Dec 2023 #14

We're good. applegrove Dec 2023 #15

+1000 Celerity Dec 2023 #54

Wow how rude. But it IS a simple! A matter you Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #6

"self-admittedly don't really understand" TwilightZone Dec 2023 #18

Wellllll, I'm not sure that they are as different from each other as many would like to believe elias7 Dec 2023 #35

The Bible is not the arbitrator of who has a right to claim lands in modern times. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #40

Right, I don't get. I'm only Jewish with family in a Israel. Could you be any more insulting? elias7 Dec 2023 #47

"The land was taken from the Palestinians" brooklynite Dec 2023 #91

Its easy enough to logically flip that Eko Dec 2023 #43

You decided to classify everyone in this community edisdead Dec 2023 #63

Ok should have added that there's a portion who loves everyone Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #68

Why are you conflating Palestinians and Hamas? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #89

Got that right! stopdiggin Dec 2023 #20

My opinion is that Hamas is the real bad guy and they're playing both Israel and Palestine for chumps. Initech Dec 2023 #2

This is what I have been thinking lpbk2713 Dec 2023 #22

I doubt half put Hamas and Palestinians in the same applegrove Dec 2023 #3

Didn't Palestinians vote for Hamas to lead them? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #8

Given the age demographics of Gaza, most Palestinians in Gaza as of Oct 7 RockRaven Dec 2023 #11

Ok then. Per you. All will be great after next election Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #16

Of course it won't, because widespread killing creates implacable enemies. RockRaven Dec 2023 #17

Nowhere do i say that what Palestinians voted for Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #30

They voted in 2008 or 2007. Therre has not been a Democracy there since. applegrove Dec 2023 #13

Not sure agree on dates but point taken. We have to Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #23

Dates could be off. Got them off the top of my head. applegrove Dec 2023 #33

Pls change the headline of your OP then, to be fair. Palestinian does not equal Hamas terrorists... brush Dec 2023 #78

Due to split factions and multiple candidates on the Palestinian Authority's ballot in 2007. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #42

please do an OP on this Celerity Dec 2023 #56

Wasn't the last election over a decade ago? I doubt results would be the same today. brush Dec 2023 #77

17 years ago obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #90

Except for the ones who think Disaffected Dec 2023 #19

Barack refused to pick sides. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #24

Case in point then? Disaffected Dec 2023 #27

That both sides kill?. And he knows we cant solve this Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #31

More a counterpoint to your OP. nt Disaffected Dec 2023 #60

As there were/are innocent non-combatants killed/being killed on both sides, impartiality is a wise course. brush Dec 2023 #79

Hamas is super evil. Israel is corrupt and above the law LeftInTX Dec 2023 #21

Exactly! I find it impossible to support either side in good conscience. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #67

Absolutely. brush Dec 2023 #80

Neither side is blameless - but by no stretch does that make for equivalency -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #25

But what is one supposed to do? BLAME is too Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #32

I don't oppose a call for cease fire stopdiggin Dec 2023 #61

Tough crowd ready to pounce tonight. No war in Ukraine, Russia! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #76

sounds good... but lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #26

It's not a binary choice. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #28

that pretty much covers it - (or at least makes a darned good start) -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #65

I don't think Israel or Palestinians are bad...I think bibi and the leaders of Hamas are bad JT45242 Dec 2023 #29

Took a month or two but perhaps DU got there? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #37

"I think bibi and the leaders of Hamas are bad" EX500rider Dec 2023 #50

No...not what I meant. JT45242 Dec 2023 #82

This right here. brush Dec 2023 #81

This isn't binary and far more complicated. Xolodno Dec 2023 #34

Exactly! Way too complex. Hundreds of years Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #38

Where did you get the info the DU is split 50/50? Kaleva Dec 2023 #36

What? Have no idea how DU is split. 1/2 and 1/2 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #39

I don't concern myself with matters I can do nothing about Kaleva Dec 2023 #41

No, I think it's a sloppy term for often more complex takes on this awful situation. electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #86

Have at it! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #95

Its a general term. Half and half. Not scientific at all! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #69

Sometimes, two things can be right at the same time. Eko Dec 2023 #44

No to Ukraine, Russia? JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #45

Was wondering about that too. betsuni Dec 2023 #46

Stunning JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #59

What??? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #74

Yikes thats absurd. NO WAR NO KILLING in Ukraine ! Russia! Geez Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #75

I think that some people believe that all of the dead Palestinian women and children are Hamas rapists and murderers. Chainfire Dec 2023 #48

And some of us think war is just hell for everyone! ananda Dec 2023 #49

No to Ukraine!? WTAF!? NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #51

No killing in the Ukraine. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #70

There wouldn't be killing in Ukraine.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #72

Some wars are worth fighting Calculating Dec 2023 #52

Please correct the spelling of "Israel". DavidDvorkin Dec 2023 #55

Done...thanks Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #71

Wrong, No one thinks Hamas is good, and No one thinks Isreal is bad. Asking for a ceasefire Pisces Dec 2023 #58

After i saw the interview clips Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #87

Yeah no edisdead Dec 2023 #62

Bumper sticker slogans don't mean much. BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #64

Ok course some do !!!! NO WAR. NO KILLING! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #73

Cool. You've said that. Now what? BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #94

I think humans stick with the familiar misanthrope Dec 2023 #66

Which half of us? Top? Bottom? Left? Right? Inside? Outside? Kennah Dec 2023 #83

No war ever? Sounds good. What's your plan? Kennah Dec 2023 #84

I would hope all of us think Hamas is bad. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #85

Why are you equating Palestinians with Hamas? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #88

Would be great to focus on the gist and not nuanced wordsmithing? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Dec 2023 #92