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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts) Sun Dec 17, 2023, 12:42 AM Dec 2023

Half of us think Israel is bad. Half of us think Hamas and Palestinians [View all]

Last edited Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)

are bad.

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NO WAR, NO KILLING, NOWHERE (& NO WAR in Ukraine, Russia!)

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Half of us think Israel is bad. Half of us think Hamas and Palestinians [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 OP

Most of us don't think in such simplistic terms: "A is bad!" or "B is bad!" RockRaven Dec 2023 #1

This !!!👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 uponit7771 Dec 2023 #4

What??? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #12

I have not seen any defense of Hamas FHRRK Dec 2023 #53

Then there is the general Palestinian people to consider. I look at it as, both sides are right and both sides are wrong 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #57

Hamas is evil. applegrove Dec 2023 #5

What is your point? RockRaven Dec 2023 #7

It would be great if you just spoke straight forward?. Just saying:( Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #9

Nope. The OP equated Hamas and Palestinians. That is propaganda. applegrove Dec 2023 #10

Okay, I now see what you were saying. Thank you. nt RockRaven Dec 2023 #14

We're good. applegrove Dec 2023 #15

+1000 Celerity Dec 2023 #54

Wow how rude. But it IS a simple! A matter you Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #6

"self-admittedly don't really understand" TwilightZone Dec 2023 #18

Wellllll, I'm not sure that they are as different from each other as many would like to believe elias7 Dec 2023 #35

The Bible is not the arbitrator of who has a right to claim lands in modern times. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #40

Right, I don't get. I'm only Jewish with family in a Israel. Could you be any more insulting? elias7 Dec 2023 #47

"The land was taken from the Palestinians" brooklynite Dec 2023 #91

Its easy enough to logically flip that Eko Dec 2023 #43

You decided to classify everyone in this community edisdead Dec 2023 #63

Ok should have added that there's a portion who loves everyone Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #68

Why are you conflating Palestinians and Hamas? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #89

Got that right! stopdiggin Dec 2023 #20

My opinion is that Hamas is the real bad guy and they're playing both Israel and Palestine for chumps. Initech Dec 2023 #2

This is what I have been thinking lpbk2713 Dec 2023 #22

I doubt half put Hamas and Palestinians in the same applegrove Dec 2023 #3

Didn't Palestinians vote for Hamas to lead them? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #8

Given the age demographics of Gaza, most Palestinians in Gaza as of Oct 7 RockRaven Dec 2023 #11

Ok then. Per you. All will be great after next election Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #16

Of course it won't, because widespread killing creates implacable enemies. RockRaven Dec 2023 #17

Nowhere do i say that what Palestinians voted for Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #30

They voted in 2008 or 2007. Therre has not been a Democracy there since. applegrove Dec 2023 #13

Not sure agree on dates but point taken. We have to Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #23

Dates could be off. Got them off the top of my head. applegrove Dec 2023 #33

Pls change the headline of your OP then, to be fair. Palestinian does not equal Hamas terrorists... brush Dec 2023 #78

Due to split factions and multiple candidates on the Palestinian Authority's ballot in 2007. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #42

please do an OP on this Celerity Dec 2023 #56

Wasn't the last election over a decade ago? I doubt results would be the same today. brush Dec 2023 #77

17 years ago obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #90

Except for the ones who think Disaffected Dec 2023 #19

Barack refused to pick sides. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #24

Case in point then? Disaffected Dec 2023 #27

That both sides kill?. And he knows we cant solve this Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #31

More a counterpoint to your OP. nt Disaffected Dec 2023 #60

As there were/are innocent non-combatants killed/being killed on both sides, impartiality is a wise course. brush Dec 2023 #79

Hamas is super evil. Israel is corrupt and above the law LeftInTX Dec 2023 #21

Exactly! I find it impossible to support either side in good conscience. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #67

Absolutely. brush Dec 2023 #80

Neither side is blameless - but by no stretch does that make for equivalency -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #25

But what is one supposed to do? BLAME is too Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #32

I don't oppose a call for cease fire stopdiggin Dec 2023 #61

Tough crowd ready to pounce tonight. No war in Ukraine, Russia! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #76

sounds good... but lapfog_1 Dec 2023 #26

It's not a binary choice. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #28

that pretty much covers it - (or at least makes a darned good start) -(nt)- stopdiggin Dec 2023 #65

I don't think Israel or Palestinians are bad...I think bibi and the leaders of Hamas are bad JT45242 Dec 2023 #29

Took a month or two but perhaps DU got there? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #37

"I think bibi and the leaders of Hamas are bad" EX500rider Dec 2023 #50

No...not what I meant. JT45242 Dec 2023 #82

This right here. brush Dec 2023 #81

This isn't binary and far more complicated. Xolodno Dec 2023 #34

Exactly! Way too complex. Hundreds of years Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #38

Where did you get the info the DU is split 50/50? Kaleva Dec 2023 #36

What? Have no idea how DU is split. 1/2 and 1/2 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #39

I don't concern myself with matters I can do nothing about Kaleva Dec 2023 #41

No, I think it's a sloppy term for often more complex takes on this awful situation. electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #86

Have at it! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #95

Its a general term. Half and half. Not scientific at all! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #69

Sometimes, two things can be right at the same time. Eko Dec 2023 #44

No to Ukraine, Russia? JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #45

Was wondering about that too. betsuni Dec 2023 #46

Stunning JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #59

What??? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #74

Yikes thats absurd. NO WAR NO KILLING in Ukraine ! Russia! Geez Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #75

I think that some people believe that all of the dead Palestinian women and children are Hamas rapists and murderers. Chainfire Dec 2023 #48

And some of us think war is just hell for everyone! ananda Dec 2023 #49

No to Ukraine!? WTAF!? NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #51

No killing in the Ukraine. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #70

There wouldn't be killing in Ukraine.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #72

Some wars are worth fighting Calculating Dec 2023 #52

Please correct the spelling of "Israel". DavidDvorkin Dec 2023 #55

Done...thanks Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #71

Wrong, No one thinks Hamas is good, and No one thinks Isreal is bad. Asking for a ceasefire Pisces Dec 2023 #58

After i saw the interview clips Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #87

Yeah no edisdead Dec 2023 #62

Bumper sticker slogans don't mean much. BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #64

Ok course some do !!!! NO WAR. NO KILLING! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #73

Cool. You've said that. Now what? BannonsLiver Dec 2023 #94

I think humans stick with the familiar misanthrope Dec 2023 #66

Which half of us? Top? Bottom? Left? Right? Inside? Outside? Kennah Dec 2023 #83

No war ever? Sounds good. What's your plan? Kennah Dec 2023 #84

I would hope all of us think Hamas is bad. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #85

Why are you equating Palestinians with Hamas? obamanut2012 Dec 2023 #88

Would be great to focus on the gist and not nuanced wordsmithing? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2023 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Dec 2023 #92