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Beastly Boy

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84. Have yo ever been offended?

Sun Oct 8, 2023, 11:35 PM

Oct 2023

In your estimation, who is the better judge of whether the offence took place, the offender or the offended?

Mind you, I am not offended by your remarks, so you don't have to justify your actions to me. I am giving you what I hope is useful information that may explain why people may be offended by your remarks. It's information. It is not meant to be judgemental. Use it or dismiss it, it's your choice.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] cab67 Oct 2023 OP

It is certainly possible. It's also clearly possible to use anti-Israel rhetoric to mask tritsofme Oct 2023 #1

Fair enough. cab67 Oct 2023 #2

I don't think anyone here likes Netanyahu. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #7

He has been in power for 16 years and failed to stop it. If he were liberal... lostnfound Oct 2023 #15

Excellent point. calimary Oct 2023 #22

Bingo. soldierant Oct 2023 #86

Amen! burrowowl Oct 2023 #12

I agree with you. Criticizing government policies is not criticizing a whole religion. Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #3

There should be no religion involved MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #4

Very true Marthe48 Oct 2023 #5

I agree Rebl2 Oct 2023 #6

True, but there often is, both in the US and elsewhere. Ocelot II Oct 2023 #9

Good luck with that in that part of the world. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #10

But for Israel, it is inescapable. It is part of their identity as a people. wnylib Oct 2023 #24

Jewish people originally came from the middle east but where are they now ? JI7 Oct 2023 #88

Israel is literally a nation founded for one religion, so it isn't possible to remove religion from Celerity Oct 2023 #28

I'll go one step father. There should be no religion. Period. Sky Jewels Oct 2023 #42

Religion Rejects Doubt As Anathema - Reason Embraces Doubt As Essential MayReasonRule Oct 2023 #90

hey . may rampartc Oct 2023 #97

and Yahoo likes Putin. housecat Oct 2023 #61

K&R n/t Alice Kramden Oct 2023 #8

It gets confusing, eh? keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #11

Conundrums Matter czarjak Oct 2023 #63

Conundrums Matter czarjak Oct 2023 #64

Thank you, Bayard Oct 2023 #13

One of my best friends JustAnotherGen Oct 2023 #14

Agree JAG............ DENVERPOPS Oct 2023 #16

hamas is going to demand prisoner releases moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #17

You're endorsing atrocities. Can you hear yourself? Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #50

i dont feel one bit of remorse moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #55

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. - (Google it) Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #56

you dont negotiate with terrorists moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #58

I don't endorse violence by either side, but Israel has placed unsupportable pressure on the Martin68 Oct 2023 #20

This is, unfortunately true. wnylib Oct 2023 #25

Agree on both. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #72

Also, instead of targeting civilians in return, wnylib Oct 2023 #78

That makes sense. electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #83

Hamas lives among civilians in urbanized areas. Israel does bomb the places they live, but many Martin68 Oct 2023 #101

The FIRST missile??? HUAJIAO Oct 2023 #35

Yes, there have been missiles and other attacks by both sides since 1948. Martin68 Oct 2023 #102

What do you think about the terrosit attacks carried out by Hama against innocent Jewish civilians? totodeinhere Oct 2023 #18

I've said this elsewhere on DU today - cab67 Oct 2023 #30

OK thanks. n/t totodeinhere Oct 2023 #52

Those who can't accept valid criticism are doomed to keep repeating the same mistakes. Martin68 Oct 2023 #19

I got nothin'. I have never trusted the news about the middle east, going back to the 1960s. twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #21

"It's entirely possible to be critical of Israel without being antisemitic." ShazzieB Oct 2023 #23

I think you speak for most if us with your post. wnylib Oct 2023 #27

+1 Celerity Oct 2023 #29

Absolutely agree with you. As many here have said it's a conundrum...a vicious cycle. As Israel allegorical oracle Oct 2023 #92

President Carter's Take on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict citizen blues Oct 2023 #26

And therein lies the problem. cab67 Oct 2023 #32

I stand with President Carter. roamer65 Oct 2023 #80

The problem is Hamas Wahhabi extremists and Israeli Zionist extremists. roamer65 Oct 2023 #81

There it is!! MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #89

Stop pearl clutching gotham Oct 2023 #31

I was responding to actual accusations I've received. cab67 Oct 2023 #33

not her responsibility gotham Oct 2023 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author cab67 Oct 2023 #37

btw gotham Oct 2023 #36

I appreciate that. cab67 Oct 2023 #38

moreover - cab67 Oct 2023 #39

family can disagree gotham Oct 2023 #40

No it does not. Snackshack Oct 2023 #41

It's not religion vs religion. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #43

No arab ever gotham Oct 2023 #45

I agree that Hamas doesn't make a distinction - cab67 Oct 2023 #46

stranglehold? gotham Oct 2023 #44

Oh for fuck's sake! Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #47

Wow. NCIndie Oct 2023 #48

Uh-huh. Two profane words and you can't fathom the point. Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #49

LOL!!! You think it was the FUCKING profanity? NCIndie Oct 2023 #51

LOL! Quite the insight from just a month. Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #54

Thank you BTA JustAnotherGen Oct 2023 #57

I don't think anyone here is defending Hamas. cab67 Oct 2023 #67

Bullshit? cab67 Oct 2023 #59

and there it is... Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #60

You know ... cab67 Oct 2023 #65

Oh please. You are NOT the victim, so just STOP! Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #73

Perhaps we're both talking past each other. cab67 Oct 2023 #74

+1 leftstreet Oct 2023 #62

The person who made this comment completely missed my intent. cab67 Oct 2023 #68

"NO ONE has said ANYTHING" redgreenandblue Oct 2023 #98

Thanks for trying. Iggo Oct 2023 #53

And for succeeding? You're welcome! cab67 Oct 2023 #66

My biggest criticism of Israel is Bibi's leadership. kimbutgar Oct 2023 #69

Indeed, very tired of the resort to that treestar Oct 2023 #70

Great post malaise Oct 2023 #71

I've been trying to stay away from this thread, but my self-control ain't what it used to be. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #75

I've never challenged Israel's right to defend itself. cab67 Oct 2023 #76

Perhaps not intentionally, but Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #77

I take it as a misinterpretation. cab67 Oct 2023 #82

Have yo ever been offended? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #84

Understood and honestly appreciated. cab67 Oct 2023 #85

What CAN be said? Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #96

Anything can be said. And anything said can be objected to. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #99

Not conditional is a pretty broad term Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #100

I mean Israel may take any actions necessary and available to defend itself. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #103

I wish I could say what I really Texasgal Oct 2023 #79

This forum is leaning in the direction of leveling The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #87

Don't leave. Push back. Celerity Oct 2023 #93

Thanks for this Bettie Oct 2023 #91

I agree. People are people and why they vote for who they do is a mystery to me.. Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #94

Constructive criticism is a positive force for change randr Oct 2023 #95