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PCIntern

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Sun Sep 13, 2020, 08:14 AM Sep 2020

Two female Trump voters in a row yesterday! [View all]

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I probably have a fair number of Trump voters in my practice, but most know better than to discuss politics with me if they’re right wing. I’m not exactly sure why, because I don’t telegraph too much to people, but this fortunately has been the case for many years.

But yesterday, my first patient of the day, a 45-year-old female of the Caucasian persuasion, a former model, very gentle and fragile, with a very bad series of marital histories, asked me for whom I was voting if I would not mind telling her. So I said quite explicitly that since Trump was destroying the country at every level and every fiber of his being, I was going to vote for Joe Biden. She nodded, and said that she did not particularly like Biden and she was going to vote for Trump AGAIN (emphasis mine). And then she quickly added, I hope I didn’t upset you. My reply to her was it’s not so much that I’m upset, but somewhat surprised that a woman who has been through what she’d been through and are so emotionally sensitive to other people’s’ needs would vote for him for President of the United States. Amazingly, she did not contradict me or assert anything other than with a nod. Of course I just let it go at that point since I didn’t bring it up in the first place.

Second patient, also Caucasian but 85 years old, quite with it, quite the well-read individual, Jewish, who started her life in a row home in West Philadelphia and became rather well to do from her marriage to a prominent physician, proceeded to tell me all the wonderful things that Trump had done for the country. Being that I Can be quite chameleon like, I hastened to add “enthusiastically” and for Israel too of course! She nodded her head and I commenced my dental work upon her.

Objectively, both of these women are attractive, lovely to talk to in all other respects, well educated, well comported, otherwise seemingly humanistic and other-oriented, and yet…

I have known both of them for a total of 72 years, and quite frankly had no idea at all whatsoever that they held these political views. It just goes to show you that there is a hidden mess of these voters out there even where you don’t expect it, and I will say one thing about both of them which is consistent with my theory of female Trump voters and that is that they were both abused in various ways during their marriages. For that you’re going to have to take my word but They were. It is very common for me to see this Connection, and although from a scientific standpoint it is certainly not proven, I have very strong feelings that identification with the aggressor is a very big part of his Fanbase. On this level, I see this is two personal tragedies, and in a crazy way,a loss for me personally.

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A loss for all of us. NT enough Sep 2020 #1
I had 3 Trump clients in a row yesterday which wasn't a surprise because grantcart Sep 2020 #2
The LaRouchies were the same way: polite, professional, well-educated and purveyors ... marble falls Sep 2020 #21
in my experience with people like these women, there is deep rooted racism they hide even better beachbumbob Sep 2020 #3
My sentiment exactly! - n/t mazzarro Sep 2020 #33
The only time I have been surprise is when I didn't account for racism in people's beachbumbob Sep 2020 #39
I don't get it. Jrsygrl96 Sep 2020 #4
I'm still recovering Laha Sep 2020 #14
How did almost marrying a cruel person totally break you? PTWB Sep 2020 #43
You dont see how thats possible? In many ways? oldsoftie Sep 2020 #55
Is she trying to say that not marrying the cruel person broke her? PTWB Sep 2020 #58
I would think the interaction with that person treestar Sep 2020 #60
Interesting anecdotes. I always find these stories very interesting since they give us a smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #5
And they undoubtedly are avid Fox News watchers PatSeg Sep 2020 #22
You can count on that - and therein lies the problem!!!!!!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Sep 2020 #54
And Fox News was designed to be addictive PatSeg Sep 2020 #62
I think it's called resolution of dissonance. Walleye Sep 2020 #6
That is an interesting nugget. Provides another glimpse of something for which one answer alone dameatball Sep 2020 #12
Out of curiosity, what were the wonderful things the second woman sinkingfeeling Sep 2020 #7
Good question... PCIntern Sep 2020 #8
I have some relatives who are Trump supporters. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #17
Yes indeed - n/t mazzarro Sep 2020 #40
First things first - Vote Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #41
On occasion you will get one that is quite charitable treestar Sep 2020 #59
this explains their attitude sheilahi Sep 2020 #9
'Identification with the aggressor" dawg day Sep 2020 #10
What a good answer and disappointing response from her lostnfound Sep 2020 #15
Well, her response was very telling PatSeg Sep 2020 #27
I think thats why Squidly Sep 2020 #78
Exactly PatSeg Sep 2020 #79
OMG! Is she damaged. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #36
So it's just a game to her. She isn't being harmed personally by Trump. yardwork Sep 2020 #49
Aha! That could explain how many finally see the light when they are personally harmed. tanyev Sep 2020 #66
This is an odd connection, but now you've started me thinking ... FakeNoose Sep 2020 #11
I'm afraid you hit good point. What sort of political Stockholm Syndrome is going on with ... marble falls Sep 2020 #19
If you have chosen a partner who belittles and abuses you luvtheGWN Sep 2020 #65
What I find sad is that the bullies are never called out FakeNoose Sep 2020 #72
a broken nation. rudderless. bereft of education. hateful. spanone Sep 2020 #13
I am in agreement with you. BlueDawn Sep 2020 #16
Interesting. My brother and I who are liberal are the two who will own up to and smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #67
I wonder, too.... BlueDawn Sep 2020 #81
The "undecided" numbers were really bothering me because, more often than not ... marble falls Sep 2020 #18
Could be BUT..... BigOleDummy Sep 2020 #24
I hope not. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #32
I agree Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #35
I started traveling on business again just over a month ago and am blow away Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #20
Excuse me. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #28
I couldn't care less who's fault it is, I'm just telling you exactly what I see Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #52
I just don't understand the elderly supporting trump mnmoderatedem Sep 2020 #23
Elderly and comfortably well off couldn't care less about SS. nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #47
I don't get that either, unless they don't know about it. Bluepinky Sep 2020 #48
They honestly don't believe their payments will ever be affected. Mariana Sep 2020 #64
I take nothing for granted, there's just too many cult members. 634-5789 Sep 2020 #25
Thank you for sharing Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #26
Damn! I didn't interpret that correctly. aka-chmeee Sep 2020 #30
LOL PCIntern Sep 2020 #51
Interesting post, a couple of thoughts here. Bluepinky Sep 2020 #31
I doubt they got to this level of support without heavy doses of rightwing media LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #34
the common features I've seen of female Trump supporters are LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #37
Interesting about spousal abuse. ananda Sep 2020 #38
I think I'd always say I'm voting for whoever Buns_of_Fire Sep 2020 #42
"she did not particularly like Biden" Aussie105 Sep 2020 #44
All I see from this OP Proud liberal 80 Sep 2020 #45
PCIntern, you certainly know the right things to say to your patients! Personally I don't Illumination Sep 2020 #46
Hi. I certainly am not saying PCIntern Sep 2020 #50
Yet we still have those who think "ALL Trump voters are racists" oldsoftie Sep 2020 #53
Well, of course the patient feared upsetting you! drbtg1 Sep 2020 #56
I'll never understand how people can consistently vote against their own self-interest. Texin Sep 2020 #57
They aren't voting against their own self-interest. Mariana Sep 2020 #68
i think the link is fear. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #61
Interesting. I'm starting to think that this is to inflict pain Kind of Blue Sep 2020 #63
My guess is that both women married it and haven't shaken it off Warpy Sep 2020 #69
I don't know about 'shaking it off', but I rather suspect they married authoritarians Texin Sep 2020 #73
I don't know about 'shaking it off', but I rather suspect they married authoritarians Texin Sep 2020 #74
Underlying anger issues iamateacher Sep 2020 #70
After much thought musclecar6 Sep 2020 #71
I hope you were not TOO vigorous ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #75
Again, it is base personality at play. Some folks are attracted to authoritarian relationships. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #76
People like these women who insist on believing what they want to FM123 Sep 2020 #77
Narcissism is inculcated in white women. raging moderate Sep 2020 #80
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