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122. I agree, but my choice is for whoever can win.

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 06:19 PM

Aug 2020

Last edited Sat Aug 8, 2020, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)

As you said, due to racism, black women have been excluded from certain positions of power. And it sucks that we might watch it happen again. But here's the thing:

I'm not looking for temporary satisfaction. I need trump OUT. My life is on the line! My family and friends' lives are at stake! If America is still too racist and sexist to elect Biden with a black woman VP, then let Biden pick Whitmer or whoever the hell they are confident will win.

That's all that matters to me right now.

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I really like Gov. Whitmer, but ... We're looking at white privilege in real time [View all] StarfishSaver Aug 2020 OP

don't say that. Biden worked very closely with a black man for years SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #1

I think you've missed my point StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #4

no I haven't. you can't say a choice for Gov Whitmer over SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #72

I didn't say that StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #77

then what did you say SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #90

Read it again StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #95

i read it and wholeheartedly disagree SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #103

The point is mercuryblues Aug 2020 #141

feels like a weird side conversation SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #144

I like Gov. Whitmer the best...m FarPoint Aug 2020 #2

Me either! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #10

Except that this white female means mi will have their first black jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #3

Completely beside the point StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #5

If too many people are "missing your point" then maybe there is something wrong with your point? LisaL Aug 2020 #9

Not at all StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #19

I'm with you on this one. African American veep for me. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2020 #78

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't stop black women from running for Governor mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #6

Do you think the only reason we've never had a black female governor StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #12

No, but I don't think its right to imply they're being blocked from holding the office mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #18

Wow. StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #20

I replied to your edit ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #35

Giving her credit isn't white privilege StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #44

As long as your not implying that there's something wrong with giving her the credit she's earned .. mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #59

I have no problem with her getting credit for doing a great job as governor. She's earned it StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #64

Well that would have been a helpful/illustrative add to the OP ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #112

My OP said exactly that StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #118

Okay, well ... it was not clear to me that you were saying that the people who are bugging you mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #123

It's not "executive level experience" that's being touted. It's being a governor StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #133

are you kidding me? qazplm135 Aug 2020 #67

I'm really just responding to how I interpreted the OP's verbiage ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #99

No checkmark necessary StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #108

I sort of addressed this in another response to you below ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #114

With all due respect, I think my OP was VERY clear StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #119

I hear exactly what you are saying and u r right. Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #30

The words "white privilege" seem to trigger people to such a degree StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #34

Stacy Abrams had the governor's election stolen by Kemp. nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #71

I agree with you and I was asked an interesting question today... CincyDem Aug 2020 #7

Supreme court, AG, both sound good pandr32 Aug 2020 #11

There are several top positions pandr32 Aug 2020 #8

I think he will end up choosing Susan Rice ucrdem Aug 2020 #13

I hope not...this is what the GOP want...Benghazi well you know the rest. Sure she Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #23

Could be but I wonder if Benghazi still has any flavor left in it ucrdem Aug 2020 #27

It will Fox is already chomping at the bit. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #43

Rice, Harris, or Demings would be fine! DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #55

No objections here ucrdem Aug 2020 #86

I actually think Rice is a trap. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #89

I am not worried about Benghazi ucrdem Aug 2020 #91

She has a right wing Trumper son Bettie Aug 2020 #94

I'm sure Biden wouldn't pick her unless completely sure sonny is with the program StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #97

I have a very deep distrust of Bettie Aug 2020 #101

son was president of Stanford College Republicans per faux news . . . ucrdem Aug 2020 #152

I see him going after her full bore Bettie Aug 2020 #155

Kids have to find their way and he doesn't seem hostile ucrdem Aug 2020 #157

The issue is whether his loyalty to his mother is stronger than his attachment to Trump StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #160

That seems a reasonable assumption. ucrdem Aug 2020 #161

That was an in unnecessary little sideswipe at Harris StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #163

My point is that her son doesn't strike me as a serious problem. nt ucrdem Aug 2020 #165

It's understandable if many are disappointed that a personal favorite, Hortensis Aug 2020 #14

Agree completely mcar Aug 2020 #15

I'm not even going there. I just want him to win whoever he picks. blueinredohio Aug 2020 #16

Really, or no? What would John Lewis would say about this? Hortensis Aug 2020 #17

What does John Lewis have to do with this? StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #22

I sort of assumed you would know, StarfishSaver, Hortensis Aug 2020 #53

Since I didn't call for Biden "to subjugate all other considerations to race" StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #58

I think we're pretty safe in assuming Congressman Lewis Hortensis Aug 2020 #76

I didn't say Biden would "actively betrayed black people if he chose a white workmate" StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #81

Well, I was probably mislead by the term "white privilege" Hortensis Aug 2020 #106

White privilege isn't about abuse StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #109

John Lewis PunkinPi Aug 2020 #73

I looked for that one, so thank you. He urges the choice of Hortensis Aug 2020 #84

Lol, what? PunkinPi Aug 2020 #102

I think that racism is so deep and pervasive in this country, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #21

A black female VP would also give millions of black voters StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #26

A black guy was the first Democrat to win two popular vote majorities in a row since FDR! DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #79

How is it possible on DU that so many miss such an obvious point? brush Aug 2020 #24

White privilege is a thing until it isn't. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #42

No point in putting down other Democrats because you want things a certain way SpaceNeedle Aug 2020 #25

Whom did I "put down'? StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #28

I don't deny white privilege exists SpaceNeedle Aug 2020 #31

Oh, please StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #50

You are not supposed to bash democratic candidates. LisaL Aug 2020 #39

Whom did I "bash"? StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #46

What? How was anyone bashed. Re-read the post pls. brush Aug 2020 #129

He hasn't chosen her janterry Aug 2020 #29

I agree........ Takket Aug 2020 #32

I am not a woman of color but I would be so disappointed if Biden does not choose a CTyankee Aug 2020 #33

You are correct. I like institutions to look like America. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #38

I think picking a woman of any color is a step forward. Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #65

And all lives matter. CTyankee Aug 2020 #75

I'm not saying that. I'm 100% pro BLM. And not diminishing it but saying all lives matter Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #82

All of which is true. It is also true that Joe would be groundbreaking and inspiring to choose an CTyankee Aug 2020 #92

The bottom line is that there are no objective qualifications for the vice presidency StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #100

Thank you StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #83

Color isn't as important as who Biden thinks best to be president. Kaleva Aug 2020 #36

Biden pledged to pick a woman, then assumption turned to a black woman Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #68

Exactly. He pledged to pick a woman, he didn't pledge that this woman has to be of a specific race. LisaL Aug 2020 #87

Thank you for your post! It's informative, interesting and well written. Kaleva Aug 2020 #96

Some points DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #115

Klobuchar dropped out because her record as prosecutor was very problematic JonLP24 Aug 2020 #143

Yea, she really had no shot at being selected. LisaL Aug 2020 #154

If it's not Demings, Rice, or Harris I am going to be profoundly disappointed. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #37

It's not your choice, and people going to be disspointed no matter what, since LisaL Aug 2020 #40

If we had a robust black turnout we would have won in 2016. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #41

No, it isn't our choice. PTWB Aug 2020 #52

Well, it's not over and done yet. I am sure he is hearing from many, many other Democratic CTyankee Aug 2020 #45

Kamala Harris and Susan Rice are plenty qualified. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #49

Yes, DSB, they are. And they are precious gifts to this country. CTyankee Aug 2020 #54

The question is not who is qualified...all of Biden's people are qualified...the question is Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #57

Not so sure Whitmer is the pick. Music Man Aug 2020 #47

ABC news reports that Whitmer flew to Delaware last Sunday to talk to Biden wishstar Aug 2020 #61

Yes, you're right! I wrote my post in a hurry. Music Man Aug 2020 #116

You're absolutely correct. PTWB Aug 2020 #48

And Joe worked successfully by the side of the first black man elected President. CTyankee Aug 2020 #88

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2020 #51

Yeah, It is pretty obvious Bettie Aug 2020 #56

Interesting StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #60

she's the Tim Kaine safe pick qazplm135 Aug 2020 #70

I'd prefer he pick Harris, Demings or Duckworth BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #62

Biden earned the nomination..It is his decision helpisontheway Aug 2020 #63

My OP has nothing to do with Biden StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #66

Picking Gov. Whitmer would be a mistake IMO. countingbluecars Aug 2020 #69

I love Whitmer but I'm hoping for Harris or Rice gollygee Aug 2020 #74

You encapsulated my point beautifully StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #85

I've seen some fragility here and there in the thread. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #105

Lol StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #111

I am 100% for Kamala Harris. boston bean Aug 2020 #80

I'm not "holding anything against" her or Biden. Just making a simple, but obviously uncomfortable StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #93

It would be a historic first to have any color female Vice President. boston bean Aug 2020 #98

But most white men and women did not support that black man JI7 Aug 2020 #104

White Democrats did. We aren't going for the Republican all white vote are we? boston bean Aug 2020 #107

And black women will be the biggest supporters of the democratic ticket JI7 Aug 2020 #117

The divisions exist. I think I said this a bunch of times. boston bean Aug 2020 #120

Yes, and we should have had that with Hillary JI7 Aug 2020 #121

I'm amused by the number of people who put the term white privilege tishaLA Aug 2020 #110

It really freaks people out. StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #113

so does the concept of white fragility Celerity Aug 2020 #124

Yep StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #128

I agree, but my choice is for whoever can win. ecstatic Aug 2020 #122

I agree. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #126

I am so scared right now RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #156

This! Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #169

Oh FFS. Really? SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #125

Yes, we are StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #127

We have a complete madman in the oval office SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #132

As I said, please feel free to not participate in this discussion if you have a problem with it StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #136

Translation: "Feel free to not participate if you disagree with MY correct opinion" brooklynite Aug 2020 #138

If you want to play "translator," you need to up your comprehension game StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #139

I read your OP, and you're welcome to express it... brooklynite Aug 2020 #140

I have read the entire thread SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #145

My OP answers your question StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #147

I am ever learning what my white priv is SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #162

I didn't say anything about tying a VP pick to white privilege StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #164

I am mot over reqcting SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #166

You are indeed overreacting StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #168

Gov Whitmer is the Governor of a battleground Rust Belt State... brooklynite Aug 2020 #130

How does that make her more qualified to be a VP running mate than any of the other women? StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #131

She helps beat Trump...which we must do in order to govern. Val Demmings is the only Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #134

Do you think there are many voters in Michigan who won't vote for Biden but will vote for him StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #137

I agree. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #135

There are/have been black congresswomen, black female senators, black female CEOs. SMC22307 Aug 2020 #142

Why do you think there have been no black female governors in American history? StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #146

Enlighten us. Especially since, like I said, there have been black female elected officlals... SMC22307 Aug 2020 #148

I'm asking you StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #149

LOL You got nuthin'... SMC22307 Aug 2020 #150

Well..... Yorkist Aug 2020 #158

Why do YOU think no black woman has ever been elected governor StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #159

Cori Bush was recently elected as the first black congresswoman in the state of Missouri JonLP24 Aug 2020 #151

Had many run before and lost or just not run? (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2020 #153

I agree with most of what you say but i'm not sure the meeting itself means much JI7 Aug 2020 #167