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36. Absolutely!

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Would you buy a $22 American made shovel when an $8 China made one is available? [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 OP

Maybe if I made $22 per hour instead of $8 graywarrior Jan 2012 #1

+100 BiggJawn Jan 2012 #3

But you're wasting that hard earned money cyglet Jan 2012 #15

This was going to be my point, as well. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #60

Then I'd buy a $100 one! graywarrior Jan 2012 #65

yes - that's been my experience too n/t dana_b Jan 2012 #68

A year is way too generous arikara Jan 2012 #115

Moved into old house unionworks Jan 2012 #164

Exactly! RetroLounge Jan 2012 #32

thank you! newspeak Jan 2012 #54

I bought a $12 windshield ice/snow scraper and we've had nothing but graywarrior Jan 2012 #66

Well, yeah, ever since I bought a truck-sized snowblower winters have turned mild. RetroLounge Jan 2012 #106

Never fails, does it. graywarrior Jan 2012 #107

We need higher paying jobs... AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #48

the 8 dollar shovel greymattermom Jan 2012 #2

True enough. All the kitchen tools sold in 99 cent store are made in china. The handles fall off Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #6

Yep. cyglet Jan 2012 #10

+1. Many years ago I used a poorly made backpack Zorra Jan 2012 #41

And the cost of replacing it LynneSin Jan 2012 #127

Yup. Brickbat Jan 2012 #4

Sticking any label on any shovel ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #70

That's against the law. pintobean Jan 2012 #78

Because I research the brands I buy. Brickbat Jan 2012 #102

Who reviews shovels? And ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #151

Oh, I don't mean review by looking at online reviews and seeing what other people think about it. Brickbat Jan 2012 #153

Again, how can you be sure a label ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #154

I'd go to the flea market and get the American made shovel second hand for $5.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #5

Bingo. Buy used, especially tools. Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #88

Also works with cars, buy a used car but get one that is fully loaded... snooper2 Jan 2012 #138

I've bought a few $8 shovels, only one USA-made one... BiggJawn Jan 2012 #7

BINGO FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #8

$22/$8 is a 170% difference, not the 50-100% of most items. I'd pay $12-$16 for the US-made shovel. leveymg Jan 2012 #9

Walmart wouldn't want country of origin displayed prominently Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #11

I look for it every time n/t cyglet Jan 2012 #12

I'd rather buy one $10 hammer that will last forever than 10 $1 Chinese hammers. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #13

the top of the $1 hammer will detach from the plastic handle and fly off when in use Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #17

Usually - either that or it will sacrifice itself to prevent damage to the nail. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #21

LMAO! i_sometimes Jan 2012 #22

The cat didn't hurt the unit I hope! HopeHoops Jan 2012 #26

nope but i_sometimes Jan 2012 #28

Okay, you work on cars. Read the body of this post. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #30

Try Snapon, Mac pr equivalent ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #38

It probably is a Snapon - a shitload of Pa's tools are. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #81

Too funny i_sometimes Jan 2012 #47

Japan makes some pretty good steel now as well. Not AS good, but good. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #83

I hear ya, you want old school and very high demand check out i_sometimes Jan 2012 #92

Weird, but one of my best drill bit sets is Hitachi - and it's US Made! HopeHoops Jan 2012 #121

Funny about names and origins i_sometimes Jan 2012 #128

Yeah, I had a friend visit me in NH and he wanted to take back some real Boston beer. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #139

I hear ya, peanut butter is another one... i_sometimes Jan 2012 #140

We get peanut butter with one ingredient - peanuts. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #141

They're also a severe hazard to pintobean Jan 2012 #42

OK but for purposes of this argument, assume they are of the same quality treestar Jan 2012 #44

If you only need it for one or two uses, great. They don't make anything of same quality. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #80

It still floors me that it isn't all Mexico rather than China treestar Jan 2012 #85

Fortunately we have a lot of small businesses around here, including a hardware store. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #90

Agreed! High quality pays for itself Zalatix Jan 2012 #120

Now if they made a decent rake I'd be in....... Historic NY Jan 2012 #14

I suspect there would be significant quality difference. DCBob Jan 2012 #16

If I wanted to use it more than three times, yes. Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #18

I would certainly try to OriginalGeek Jan 2012 #19

Cheap shoes are poor economy. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2012 #71

Yep, my shoes are repairable too OriginalGeek Jan 2012 #99

the 8 dollar one doesnt seem to make it thru the season. i have seen it with a LOT of other product seabeyond Jan 2012 #20

The 22 dollar one is probably better quality. roody Jan 2012 #23

The OP doesn't say that the $22 one is better quality vs lower quality $8 one. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #53

Must....not......think..... joeglow3 Jan 2012 #160

LOL. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #169

I would, like a shot! I have my mother's old kitchen tools from the 1950's, and they are light years MgtPA Jan 2012 #24

We'd benefit from a new "Look for the Union Label" ad campaign. Those were powerful ads in the 1970s qb Jan 2012 #25

Agreed. As a union worker's child I was trained from an early age to buy union, buy American Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #50

I miss those "look for the union label" ads and song newspeak Jan 2012 #55

If they are equivalent, No. And I would be a fool to do so cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #27

I would, and I have. MineralMan Jan 2012 #29

Depends on the quality MadHound Jan 2012 #31

Yep. Iggo Jan 2012 #33

Happily. I like good tools. Edweird Jan 2012 #34

Yes. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #35

Absolutely! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #36

Yes, I have done it. Quantess Jan 2012 #37

the part I don't understand is why does my Indian made Clark Shoes and my Chinese made Doc Martins Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #39

now, that's the question newspeak Jan 2012 #56

Yes. We do it every day. Betsy Ross Jan 2012 #40

I would but most Americans would not treestar Jan 2012 #43

As a matter of fact, Yes I will madokie Jan 2012 #45

Depends how expensive the shit I have to shovel is. undeterred Jan 2012 #46

without much hesitation hfojvt Jan 2012 #49

I am the opposite. quakerboy Jan 2012 #161

I sure would. Bought one of those $9 ones from Lowe's and the sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 #51

The truth is that I would not. Unless the location is more convenient, or it was an emergency... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #52

.... emilyg Jan 2012 #59

Exactly, they always complain about regulation & unions increasing the price... Historic NY Jan 2012 #123

It depends on how long you plan to use that shovel or how long to expect it to last SoCalDem Jan 2012 #57

Our last $8 shovel broke. No more $8 shovels. nt Ilsa Jan 2012 #58

So you've broken your shovel with Chinese imports? KamaAina Jan 2012 #137

I'll choose the American shovel because... Zalatix Jan 2012 #61

Absolutely theAntiRand Jan 2012 #62

Anyone who uses tools knows junk doesn't last. nt Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #63

Experience says: a well made tool is always cheaper than a crappy tool bhikkhu Jan 2012 #64

Yes, because it will last nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #67

If the shovels are identical, I would buy the less expensive one. Throd Jan 2012 #69

This is the BIG LIE. It is not about the price point. It's about the profit margin. JCMach1 Jan 2012 #72

Plastic crap! pipi_k Jan 2012 #73

I swear the plumbing stuff is the worst. It really is cheap crap. Vinca Jan 2012 #94

More like ten lifetimes. I have Mom's CI, and when I go, son will end up with them. tsuki Jan 2012 #168

All the time, but for over $30. bluedigger Jan 2012 #74

it would depend on the Quality and whether the American made on will last longer JI7 Jan 2012 #75

If it was better quality. Yes. n/t tabasco Jan 2012 #76

Riddle me this: Why does a replacment handle for a eight dollar shovel cost twelve dollars? Brother Buzz Jan 2012 #77

Exactly! eom tawadi Jan 2012 #79

Yes: Durability, reduced fuel/shipping costs, and manufacturing jobs to sustain the Middle Class. WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2012 #82

I try to look for Made in the USA if possible CatholicEdHead Jan 2012 #84

Yes. Because Moondog Jan 2012 #86

I know a LOT about this topic NightTemplar Jan 2012 #87

Surely, those shovels would be made of plastic, not metal. surrealAmerican Jan 2012 #97

Yes, China makes perfectly good shovels, but do US importers want them? Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #101

This +++ hunter Jan 2012 #104

Although theres more to it than that quakerboy Jan 2012 #162

Golly. A little reality. Probably not wanted here. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #111

+1 laundry_queen Jan 2012 #133

Yes. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #89

No Dem policy on Jobs BoulderBean Jan 2012 #91

Sure we can, we can vote in politicians who won't even let that crap in here. Zalatix Jan 2012 #118

Would you believe "free trade" with Korea is the solution? Romulox Jan 2012 #131

The Chinese manufacturer likely gets his wood from Canada and steel from Australia. Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #93

Well... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #95

This reminds me of a spade I bought Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #96

Yes. Heywood J Jan 2012 #98

If the CEO to worker earnings ratio weren't so skewed here RainDog Jan 2012 #100

Most definitely I would Tsiyu Jan 2012 #103

Quality Control Brooklyns_Finest Jan 2012 #105

i would if i did`t have my 50yr old usa made shovel madrchsod Jan 2012 #108

If I could afford it I would. nt gateley Jan 2012 #109

No. joshcryer Jan 2012 #110

That A Hawkowl Jan 2012 #117

Abject poverty. joshcryer Jan 2012 #119

YES I WOULD - Next question...nt ddeclue Jan 2012 #112

Actually I might. My father always bought Sears tools because they were good and lasted. When it jwirr Jan 2012 #113

Not only that, but no matter how old a tool was, if it broke they would replace it. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #122

Yes, I remember him trading in a really old tool and they stood behind it. It is really too bad that jwirr Jan 2012 #124

I buy American made bicycles over cheaper Asian ones, Ferret Annica Jan 2012 #114

Chinese bicycles are seriously flawed... Indian ones (which we don't get in America) JCMach1 Jan 2012 #116

Some of the best bikes are made in Taiwan. With Japanese grupos. Fact. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #129

Just know the Chinese bicycles we get in the UAE... utter rubbish... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #143

Where do you get american made bikes? quakerboy Jan 2012 #163

I do buy US made tools, and the shovel replaced a cheap one that had broken. Burma Jones Jan 2012 #125

I would. Because the cheap made $8 shovel from China tends to break LynneSin Jan 2012 #126

Oh, absolutely. I'd load that son-of-gun right into my Hyundai. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #130

Which would make sense - as most of them are American made too. nt dmallind Jan 2012 #149

Nonsense. Hyundais are primarily made in KOREA. Some are *assembled* in the cheap labor south Romulox Jan 2012 #158

hahahahaha!! dmallind Jan 2012 #159

the china one will break three times before the US made one does....nt Evasporque Jan 2012 #132

This thread shows how effective the neocon machine is. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #134

absolutely. I've learned a lot from reading the replies to the thread. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #146

I'll have to disagree with that, man. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #167

So just how does that disagree with my post? Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #170

Unfortunately, the Chinese factories ARE mostly incapable of making quality goods,. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #171

See. You prove my point. Jakes Progress Jan 2012 #172

Jake, you're missing MY point. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #174

If I knew at least 75% of Americans planned to make similar sacrifices ecstatic Jan 2012 #135

Love the avatar. Romulox Jan 2012 #142

Yes... snooper2 Jan 2012 #136

Yes!!! Rochester Jan 2012 #144

Assuming they're the same quality, I'll buy the cheaper one no matter what country it's from Ter Jan 2012 #145

Wow. . .are you getting fleeced. That $8 shovel from China costs Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #147

Would you buy a $1000 American made iPad when a $500 China made one is available? GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #148

Excellent question. hugo_from_TN Jan 2012 #156

There isn't $500 of labor in an Ipad, irrespective of where it's made. Bogus question. Romulox Jan 2012 #157

Parts and labour cost of Apple iWhatsises is about $20 or so on the high end Spider Jerusalem Jan 2012 #165

if we all bought the American shovel...the price would quickly go down to $10... Sancho Jan 2012 #150

Yes, I would! GermanDem Jan 2012 #152

Yeah, since I would but a 100% tariff on the Chinese shovel, it would have to retail TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #155

Yes I would if it's the multi-purpose army shovel. Have you seen that shovel?! vaberella Jan 2012 #166

I remember the folded spade from when my father was in the army. Looks like it's been upgraded Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #173