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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2020, 10:40 AM Jun 2020

Can we talk for a moment about something? I'm referring to the bizarre spectacle that is Trump flags [View all]

The idea of a flag is an interesting concept.

First and foremost, they are best known as a symbol of a country. They also can relate to a state, a county, a city or some other governmental entity.

Flags aren't exclusive to countries and governments, however. If you go to a tailgate event at any given sporting event, you will frequently see flags flying containing the logo of the teams playing.

And flags need not represent positive ideals. The Nazis had flags, as do the KKK.

But even at their most repulsive, or their most benign, it seems like the common denominator behind flags is that they are meant to symbolize a group of people or idea that is larger than just the one individual flying the flag.

Except for one odd exception, and that of course is the Trump Flag.

There's no one uniform version of the Trump Flag, but most of them look something like this:



There's also one with some slightly more colorful--and blatantly ironic--language like this:



Trumpists love to display their Trump flags. Especially popular, for whatever reason, is during boat parades. But you'll see them in any number of settings, including behind these two illustrious members of society who felt it prudent to recreate the murder of George Floyd in front of peaceful protesters:



The existence of the Trump Flag is truly baffling, because it's a flag, but instead of representing a country, a group of people, a movement or an ideal, it's a flag dedicated to a person. A single person.

What sort of person deserves a flag with nothing more than his name on it? I mean, even in most despotic regimes, the flags flown didn't just read "Hitler" or "Stalin."

It speaks to a double phenomenon. First, a growing cult of personality in this country around the supposed President, which is something we have never, ever seen before. (I mean, I remember a lot of nonsense from the right in the 00s around the time of the Iraq War, nonsense about how criticizing the president was somehow "unpatriotic", but I never actually saw anyone flying Bush flags).

And second, it speaks to the narcissism and insatiable ego of the man who currently occupies the White House, a man so consumed with himself that he demands flags with his name be flown by his supporters. And that is certainly terrifying in its own right.

The closest thing we have to this are the MAGA hats, which have grown to become emblematic of a movement on their own. But even those tacky pieces of red headgear don't spell out Trump's own name on them. And had their popularity simply ended with the 2016 campaign itself, you might be tempted to say that they were nothing more than a campaign relic along the line of "I Like Ike" pins or the Obama "Hope" poster, historical pieces that tie into specific election memorabilia and little more. Of course, the MAGA hats have not subsided, and are the new brownshirt of our day.

But for the life of me, I do not remember anything so remotely crass, unprecedented and abnormal as the Trump Flag itself.

Thoughts?

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Definitely displays the fervor of his mindless minions Blue Owl Jun 2020 #1
I think it's just because everything that exists is a target for Trump's "branding." The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #2
I flip them a bird whenever and wherever I see them. Harker Jun 2020 #3
I saw one recently Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #4
That orange monstrosity wants to be a despotic king sdfernando Jun 2020 #5
Insightful, thought-provoking post. Laelth Jun 2020 #6
I have never seen anything like these murielm99 Jun 2020 #7
Jonestown Thirties Child Jun 2020 #12
Tough for me to contemplate, murielm99 Jun 2020 #23
Flags have used as identifiers for millennia. As warnings, information... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #8
Where is the outrage? young_at_heart Jun 2020 #9
You can buy several styles of "Biden 2020" flags on Amazon, as well as a Bernie one, etc. Steelrolled Jun 2020 #10
I love Joe. I loved Obama and Clinton too. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #11
I'm with you - I'm not a flag person Steelrolled Jun 2020 #14
I have not seen a Biden flag either and glad I have not. riversedge Jun 2020 #19
Any Trump flag or yard sign... mwooldri Jun 2020 #13
Somebody needs to put bleach in the engine oil of those chuds' coal-roller trucks... backscatter712 Jun 2020 #15
They certainly help identify the people who I want to stay clear of. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2020 #16
Cult flags SledDriver Jun 2020 #17
+1 n/t area51 Jun 2020 #27
I like the second one, but they forgot to put the word "Dump" at the top. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #18
Speaking of flags, I see a lot of pickups flying the Confederate Flag on one side of the bed but not mobeau69 Jun 2020 #20
My neighbor has one hauckeye Jun 2020 #21
It's a sign of what we're up against this year customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #22
Also a way to get around POA rules precluding yard signs. trof Jun 2020 #24
It's a personality cult. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #25
The bellweather for me will be the MAGA hat sitting on my right-wing in-laws hat rack. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #26
Little Donald put a lot of hard work into learning how to read his name muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #28
I myself, prefer that the fly their flags and wear their hats. Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #29
Loyal Trumpster proudly holding Trump Russian flag keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #30
When I was in the service (and perhaps still?) soldierant Jun 2020 #31
"RUMP -- for America's a-holes" struggle4progress Jun 2020 #32
My neighbor has an American flag with Trump in the blue section. NameAlreadyTaken Jun 2020 #33
I bet he also thinks people kneeling "dishonors" the flag... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #35
I'm sure he does, NameAlreadyTaken Jun 2020 #38
Well Done, Tommy! LOL@BLOTUS saying "NO MORE BULLSHIT".. that's Cha Jun 2020 #34
Are Biden flags ok? I want to know before I order one. ??? jmg257 Jun 2020 #36
When will he order The Wizard Jun 2020 #37
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