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Pacifist Patriot

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59. Indeed. A pardon is a judicial term while impeachment is a political one.

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:55 AM

Jan 2020

The one and only penalty for being convicted of impeachment is removal from office. The concept of a pardon does not apply in any way whatsoever to an impeachment.

But a conviction in an impeachment trial would render him extremely vulnerable to criminal prosecution. Pence could pardon him for all federal crimes, but the NY AG could certainly charge him with state crimes.

Yep, if the Senate does the right thing, ideally the NY AG would step in at that point.

Now if the Senate would just do the right thing. Sigh.

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Bill Maher has been saying this for 2 years.. pbmus Jan 2020 #1

Cohen and Deutsch pretty much say the same thing. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #3

Yeah, I said/posted this the night of the election Cosmocat Jan 2020 #55

Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2020 #2

no they will do much, much worse.. pangaia Jan 2020 #28

The Marshals may step in and change his mind for him..nt monmouth4 Jan 2020 #4

uhh.. I really don;t think so.... pangaia Jan 2020 #29

The moment the new President states "So help me God" on the monmouth4 Jan 2020 #37

Yes, actually, they will. paleotn Jan 2020 #38

Yes, they would StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #44

you are much more knowledgable than i am pangaia Jan 2020 #65

He may not be gone right away StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #66

My typo-- SUSHI ZO !! pangaia Jan 2020 #68

In the unlikely event he is convicted NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #5

+1 2naSalit Jan 2020 #10

I would volunteer shanti Jan 2020 #25

Pence would be commander in chief then, right? Wednesdays Jan 2020 #12

I doubt it -I think pence wants power as well NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #13

Why would he bother? Nasruddin Jan 2020 #16

The benefit is... dajoki Jan 2020 #19

The Irishman Nasruddin Jan 2020 #22

may i ask, why do you call him mr trump? pangaia Jan 2020 #30

Pence is a co-conspirator in the same damn crime! Thunderbeast Jan 2020 #31

Sure, they all need to go Nasruddin Jan 2020 #35

You can't pardon an impeached person, according to the Constitution jmowreader Jan 2020 #42

Yes, you can StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #46

This gets really confusing at times with the overlap in vocabulary. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #60

Indeed. A pardon is a judicial term while impeachment is a political one. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #59

Riddle me this. What if Pence refuses to take the oath claiming the Senate could not remove? Zolorp Jan 2020 #34

All hell would certainly break loose at that point gristy Jan 2020 #41

I don't feel pounce is that far gone screwy even if he is a sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #51

Dude, hes spent tgree years Cosmocat Jan 2020 #56

Ah, yes, but the mere thought of him snagging the office of sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #57

possibly Cosmocat Jan 2020 #58

Watch. Surprise, surprise. Enuff repubes vote to oust sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #69

He can leave on his own peacefully,,, lastlib Jan 2020 #70

starting at 1 minute mark handmade34 Jan 2020 #6

...well...I have always envisioned him being dragged from the premises in some form... FirstLight Jan 2020 #7

Rules are for SUCKERS! All dictators say it in one form or another.. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #8

Imagine if you were of the R Senators and you had a chance mahina Jan 2020 #9

agreed NJCher Jan 2020 #11

Maybe Nasruddin Jan 2020 #17

Don't you mean Bush and Cheney? beveeheart Jan 2020 #61

thnx NJCher Jan 2020 #64

Oh, yes, Mitt is counting! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #23

The entirety of Trump's defense: LudwigPastorius Jan 2020 #14

If Trump loses the 2020 election he will not leave. gab13by13 Jan 2020 #15

You are giving the con too much power Perseus Jan 2020 #20

The Secret Service A HERETIC I AM Jan 2020 #21

Thank you. I agree. leftieNanner Jan 2020 #24

Better bring 4 really strong guys. louis-t Jan 2020 #26

That's what electric pallet jacks are for jmowreader Jan 2020 #43

Dedication shmedication Nasruddin Jan 2020 #33

We will have to disagree. pangaia Jan 2020 #39

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"automatically be disposed of his title, he will no longer have power over the military ...' pangaia Jan 2020 #40

I bet he will leave if security grabs him by the back of the neck yuiyoshida Jan 2020 #27

At which point would Trump's security detail say: Aussie105 Jan 2020 #32

The second the Senate removes him, he doesn't have a security detail jmowreader Jan 2020 #45

He would still have a detail, but it wouldn't be a presidential detail StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #47

Quick question: does a removed president rate a security detail? jmowreader Jan 2020 #48

Yes StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #49

His response from his "legal team' shows what he will do if he loses the election................. turbinetree Jan 2020 #36

I'll call his bluffing idiotic ramblings NiteOwl1 Jan 2020 #50

"....the likes of which..." sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #52

... Good catch NiteOwl1 Jan 2020 #53

And you were fashionably elegant to use it! sprinkleeninow Jan 2020 #54

I wonder if this might flip a vote or two? AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #62

i was called crazy and shouted down a few months back here on DU for saying Javaman Jan 2020 #63

He won't have af1 anymore. notdarkyet Jan 2020 #67