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colorado_ufo

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46. Consider that it usually takes years for cigarettes

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:08 PM

Sep 2019

to become deadly. These lung problems and deaths caused by vaping are coming very rapidly. Also, the flavorings are really attracting younger and younger people.

Lungs are delicate and they are precious. We need to learn to respect them or die. They are as critical to life as your heart, and I don't see anyone deliberately trying to do things to their heart in the name of recreation.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Cetacea Sep 2019 OP

What is in E cigarette liquids? Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #1

But the deaths we've seen recently Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #4

Dont muddy up the narrative with facts superpatriotman Sep 2019 #5

yeah n/t They_Live Sep 2019 #62

The damn pot prohibition in the US is lame and stupid, and was a Nixon ploy. Fuck, people are stupid RKP5637 Sep 2019 #12

The kind that the vast majority of people use? There's very little mystery there my friend ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #7

Yes, but those with nicotine that are marketed to teens are disturbing, aren't they? Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #27

Marketed to teens, or just marketed? coti Sep 2019 #51

The vaping companies aren't supposed to sell pleasant flavors. Mariana Sep 2019 #99

Nicotine is not as physically addictive as you might think... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #54

Nicotine is addictive, but the claims some people like to make about how it's 'more so than heroin' mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #64

It is close to being as addictive as heroin JonLP24 Sep 2019 #93

When Smoked. -NT- jayfish Sep 2019 #104

That's like saying fruity alcoholic drinks are marketed towards children. Revanchist Sep 2019 #55

Well. jayfish Sep 2019 #13

Propylene glycol is main ingredient. Nt BootinUp Sep 2019 #22

Vegetable glycerin is also used, or in combination with propylene glycol nt coti Sep 2019 #44

The ones sold by reputable e-cigarette companies SoCalNative Sep 2019 #32

Ummmm no... BooScout Sep 2019 #37

Those seem like two questions you could easily research for us. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #107

EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS ARTICLE ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #2

+1 Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #9

As usual, the US goes into a panic mode and does something irrational and stupid before all the RKP5637 Sep 2019 #14

Absolutely right. Harm. Reduction. coti Sep 2019 #28

Your lungs paleotn Sep 2019 #38

Neither did veins, but we poke needles in there all the time. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #52

You're kidding right? Right? paleotn Sep 2019 #68

You said drug absorption organs. That is not limited to smoking. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #95

Of course they are... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #60

They evolved to uptake O2 from air. paleotn Sep 2019 #73

And through human ingenuity we have learned that they do much more... n/t Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #81

An interesting factoid ... one which has WHAT relevance, exactly? mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #65

Death rates for those who inhale... paleotn Sep 2019 #67

"Or the substances mixed with water used to transfer nicotine molecules to the alveoli. " mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #75

8 dead. Hundreds visiting an ICU. paleotn Sep 2019 #79

A problem with ZERO positive association with traditional nicotine vaping products of any kind ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #80

You do know that e-cigs have been available for over 10 years now, right? Doremus Sep 2019 #111

National Review crap rockfordfile Sep 2019 #112

And yet ... 100% factual. mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #115

From my cold, dead hands superpatriotman Sep 2019 #3

What's funny is in AZ I already buy unflavored e-juice, been doing so for years ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #58

I have never smoked or vaped, but can relate my wife's experience as a decades long smoker. LexVegas Sep 2019 #6

Gee, there wouldn't be Big Tobacco money behind this, or anything, would there? diva77 Sep 2019 #8

You're right, big tobacco has their hands in all the big vape companies mathematic Sep 2019 #10

That's Not What's Happening Here. jayfish Sep 2019 #18

No. Vaping is making tobacco obsolete- and that is a GOOD THING. coti Sep 2019 #30

nicotine itself is dangerous and causes increased heart attack risk. unblock Sep 2019 #86

Like caffeine? Cetacea Sep 2019 #116

Yep, exactly my thought!!! Big Tobacco money behind this ... and money to our ever so honest RKP5637 Sep 2019 #15

Behind the flavored e-juice bans you mean? Oh yeah, you're definitely onto something there. mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #61

"Trump wants it" is truly outstanding evidence that an idea is a really bad one nt coti Sep 2019 #63

I think there are certain risks on inhaling any sort of foriegn substance through the lungs. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #11

My grandfather owned a tobacco farm.. HipChick Sep 2019 #17

BT spikes the chemical (carcinogen) content... jayfish Sep 2019 #21

And that anecdotally proves what? paleotn Sep 2019 #43

My Dad died of small cell lung cancer caused by smoking. colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #56

I'm so sorry. paleotn Sep 2019 #70

Thanks so much for writing. colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #82

I think flavored e cigarette bans impact those adults trying to quit JonLP24 Sep 2019 #94

We don't know what is in the liquids FunkyLeprechaun Sep 2019 #16

It's Not Unregulated And... jayfish Sep 2019 #19

Lol, this thread is killin me. +1 BootinUp Sep 2019 #23

++2 proud patriot Sep 2019 #47

Sure FunkyLeprechaun Sep 2019 #97

We don't know what's in black market liquids. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #24

Once again, yes we do SoCalNative Sep 2019 #33

It still gets me,... Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2019 #20

there's no constitutional amendment spelling out a right to vape maxsolomon Sep 2019 #25

You ever read the Constitution? Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #57

Thank you from a long time vaper! Catamount Sep 2019 #26

The demonization of a brilliant invention that is going to save MILLIONS of lives into the future coti Sep 2019 #29

i might agree with you if vaping were solely by prescription unblock Sep 2019 #87

what pisses me off is seeing the exact same bullcrap we saw a half century ago with tobacco denial unblock Sep 2019 #31

No, it is most definitely way, way safer than smoking. coti Sep 2019 #34

Much as jumping off a 3-story building is safer than jumping off a 30-story building unblock Sep 2019 #66

Yes, abstinence-only, understood nt coti Sep 2019 #74

Also, much as jumping off a three inch curb is safer than jumping off a 30-story building LanternWaste Sep 2019 #108

pushing the notion that vaping is as safe as jumping off a 3-inch curb is wrong and dangerous unblock Sep 2019 #110

"Some have suggested that vaping is 95% safer than cigarettes." Mariana Sep 2019 #113

So is the analogy that it's like jumping off a three-story building. You're stoking coti Sep 2019 #114

7 people have died, 560 something are ill bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #35

Consider that it usually takes years for cigarettes colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #46

This story reminds me of hearing about a nationwide recall on beef or chicken... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #59

Of course something's up. Mariana Sep 2019 #48

Your lungs need only one thing paleotn Sep 2019 #36

Really? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #42

And how many inhalers do you use daily? paleotn Sep 2019 #45

I don't have a respiratory ailment. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #50

Lungs evolved to uptake O2 from air..... paleotn Sep 2019 #76

Sounds like the beginning of a great abstinence-only program to market to teenagers nt coti Sep 2019 #49

If they weren't, I would be dead obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #71

Uh Ohh... jayfish Sep 2019 #89

If you ban vaping nicotine...then ban cigarettes and booze. mudstump Sep 2019 #39

The tobacco and alcohol industry wants vaping gone. mudstump Sep 2019 #40

As a heavy smoker, I support a ban on vaping and tobacco. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #41

I've been vaping for almost ten years Sedona Sep 2019 #53

Same. 7 years for me. LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #90

it IS possible to neither smoke nor vape Skittles Sep 2019 #69

Big Tobacco is so all over this obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #72

The vaping industry doesn't have the deep pockets of tobacco liberal N proud Sep 2019 #77

The tobacco companies are behind this panic. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #78

A lot of dump's supporters are PISSED about this. ecstatic Sep 2019 #83

So wait, does it make logical sense that "tabacco" and "menthol" flavored ecigs are good? Liberal Veteran Sep 2019 #84

Yep, it's crazy. gulliver Sep 2019 #85

No we don't... bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #88

No One Is Advocating For Either Vaping Or Smoking. jayfish Sep 2019 #92

Take away my vape? Then I'll go back to cigarettes, simple. LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #91

"compared with traditional cigarettes it's a refreshing kale and spinach smoothie" NCLefty Sep 2019 #96

It's been a few weeks since we've had ourselves a good ol fashioned MORAL PANIC. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #98

SUMMER OF THE SHARK AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #100

AFRICANIZED BEES Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #102

I've seen two wonderful honey bee hives exterminated thanks to that eom Cetacea Sep 2019 #117

Kill folks the old fashioned Murican way, none of this newfangled digital crap Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #101

How about customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #103

How About Mind Your Own Business? -NT- jayfish Sep 2019 #105

I'm not advocating a ban customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #106

No on is advocating it as a necessity. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #109

Like food? Cetacea Sep 2019 #118

Food has nutritive value customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #119

Have people lost the ability to argue without being insulting? Cetacea Sep 2019 #120

Well, I must admit... DFW Sep 2019 #121

I find the smell of weed ofensive. Cetacea Sep 2019 #122