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What is in E cigarette liquids? Johnny2X2X Sep 2019 #1

But the deaths we've seen recently Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #4

Dont muddy up the narrative with facts superpatriotman Sep 2019 #5

yeah n/t They_Live Sep 2019 #62

The damn pot prohibition in the US is lame and stupid, and was a Nixon ploy. Fuck, people are stupid RKP5637 Sep 2019 #12

The kind that the vast majority of people use? There's very little mystery there my friend ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #7

Yes, but those with nicotine that are marketed to teens are disturbing, aren't they? Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #27

Marketed to teens, or just marketed? coti Sep 2019 #51

The vaping companies aren't supposed to sell pleasant flavors. Mariana Sep 2019 #99

Nicotine is not as physically addictive as you might think... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #54

Nicotine is addictive, but the claims some people like to make about how it's 'more so than heroin' mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #64

It is close to being as addictive as heroin JonLP24 Sep 2019 #93

When Smoked. -NT- jayfish Sep 2019 #104

That's like saying fruity alcoholic drinks are marketed towards children. Revanchist Sep 2019 #55

Well. jayfish Sep 2019 #13

Propylene glycol is main ingredient. Nt BootinUp Sep 2019 #22

Vegetable glycerin is also used, or in combination with propylene glycol nt coti Sep 2019 #44

The ones sold by reputable e-cigarette companies SoCalNative Sep 2019 #32

Ummmm no... BooScout Sep 2019 #37

Those seem like two questions you could easily research for us. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #107

EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS ARTICLE ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #2

+1 Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #9

As usual, the US goes into a panic mode and does something irrational and stupid before all the RKP5637 Sep 2019 #14

Absolutely right. Harm. Reduction. coti Sep 2019 #28

Your lungs paleotn Sep 2019 #38

Neither did veins, but we poke needles in there all the time. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #52

You're kidding right? Right? paleotn Sep 2019 #68

You said drug absorption organs. That is not limited to smoking. AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #95

Of course they are... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #60

They evolved to uptake O2 from air. paleotn Sep 2019 #73

And through human ingenuity we have learned that they do much more... n/t Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #81

An interesting factoid ... one which has WHAT relevance, exactly? mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #65

Death rates for those who inhale... paleotn Sep 2019 #67

"Or the substances mixed with water used to transfer nicotine molecules to the alveoli. " mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #75

8 dead. Hundreds visiting an ICU. paleotn Sep 2019 #79

A problem with ZERO positive association with traditional nicotine vaping products of any kind ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #80

You do know that e-cigs have been available for over 10 years now, right? Doremus Sep 2019 #111

National Review crap rockfordfile Sep 2019 #112

And yet ... 100% factual. mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #115

From my cold, dead hands superpatriotman Sep 2019 #3

What's funny is in AZ I already buy unflavored e-juice, been doing so for years ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #58

I have never smoked or vaped, but can relate my wife's experience as a decades long smoker. LexVegas Sep 2019 #6

Gee, there wouldn't be Big Tobacco money behind this, or anything, would there? diva77 Sep 2019 #8

You're right, big tobacco has their hands in all the big vape companies mathematic Sep 2019 #10

That's Not What's Happening Here. jayfish Sep 2019 #18

No. Vaping is making tobacco obsolete- and that is a GOOD THING. coti Sep 2019 #30

nicotine itself is dangerous and causes increased heart attack risk. unblock Sep 2019 #86

Like caffeine? Cetacea Sep 2019 #116

Yep, exactly my thought!!! Big Tobacco money behind this ... and money to our ever so honest RKP5637 Sep 2019 #15

Behind the flavored e-juice bans you mean? Oh yeah, you're definitely onto something there. mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #61

"Trump wants it" is truly outstanding evidence that an idea is a really bad one nt coti Sep 2019 #63

I think there are certain risks on inhaling any sort of foriegn substance through the lungs. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2019 #11

My grandfather owned a tobacco farm.. HipChick Sep 2019 #17

BT spikes the chemical (carcinogen) content... jayfish Sep 2019 #21

And that anecdotally proves what? paleotn Sep 2019 #43

My Dad died of small cell lung cancer caused by smoking. colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #56

I'm so sorry. paleotn Sep 2019 #70

Thanks so much for writing. colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #82

I think flavored e cigarette bans impact those adults trying to quit JonLP24 Sep 2019 #94

We don't know what is in the liquids FunkyLeprechaun Sep 2019 #16

It's Not Unregulated And... jayfish Sep 2019 #19

Lol, this thread is killin me. +1 BootinUp Sep 2019 #23

++2 proud patriot Sep 2019 #47

Sure FunkyLeprechaun Sep 2019 #97

We don't know what's in black market liquids. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #24

Once again, yes we do SoCalNative Sep 2019 #33

It still gets me,... Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2019 #20

there's no constitutional amendment spelling out a right to vape maxsolomon Sep 2019 #25

You ever read the Constitution? Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #57

Thank you from a long time vaper! Catamount Sep 2019 #26

The demonization of a brilliant invention that is going to save MILLIONS of lives into the future coti Sep 2019 #29

i might agree with you if vaping were solely by prescription unblock Sep 2019 #87

what pisses me off is seeing the exact same bullcrap we saw a half century ago with tobacco denial unblock Sep 2019 #31

No, it is most definitely way, way safer than smoking. coti Sep 2019 #34

Much as jumping off a 3-story building is safer than jumping off a 30-story building unblock Sep 2019 #66

Yes, abstinence-only, understood nt coti Sep 2019 #74

Also, much as jumping off a three inch curb is safer than jumping off a 30-story building LanternWaste Sep 2019 #108

pushing the notion that vaping is as safe as jumping off a 3-inch curb is wrong and dangerous unblock Sep 2019 #110

"Some have suggested that vaping is 95% safer than cigarettes." Mariana Sep 2019 #113

So is the analogy that it's like jumping off a three-story building. You're stoking coti Sep 2019 #114

7 people have died, 560 something are ill bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #35

Consider that it usually takes years for cigarettes colorado_ufo Sep 2019 #46

This story reminds me of hearing about a nationwide recall on beef or chicken... Callmecrazy Sep 2019 #59

Of course something's up. Mariana Sep 2019 #48

Your lungs need only one thing paleotn Sep 2019 #36

Really? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #42

And how many inhalers do you use daily? paleotn Sep 2019 #45

I don't have a respiratory ailment. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #50

Lungs evolved to uptake O2 from air..... paleotn Sep 2019 #76

Sounds like the beginning of a great abstinence-only program to market to teenagers nt coti Sep 2019 #49

If they weren't, I would be dead obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #71

Uh Ohh... jayfish Sep 2019 #89

If you ban vaping nicotine...then ban cigarettes and booze. mudstump Sep 2019 #39

The tobacco and alcohol industry wants vaping gone. mudstump Sep 2019 #40

As a heavy smoker, I support a ban on vaping and tobacco. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #41

I've been vaping for almost ten years Sedona Sep 2019 #53

Same. 7 years for me. LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #90

it IS possible to neither smoke nor vape Skittles Sep 2019 #69

Big Tobacco is so all over this obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #72

The vaping industry doesn't have the deep pockets of tobacco liberal N proud Sep 2019 #77

The tobacco companies are behind this panic. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #78

A lot of dump's supporters are PISSED about this. ecstatic Sep 2019 #83

So wait, does it make logical sense that "tabacco" and "menthol" flavored ecigs are good? Liberal Veteran Sep 2019 #84

Yep, it's crazy. gulliver Sep 2019 #85

No we don't... bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #88

No One Is Advocating For Either Vaping Or Smoking. jayfish Sep 2019 #92

Take away my vape? Then I'll go back to cigarettes, simple. LuckyCharms Sep 2019 #91

"compared with traditional cigarettes it's a refreshing kale and spinach smoothie" NCLefty Sep 2019 #96

It's been a few weeks since we've had ourselves a good ol fashioned MORAL PANIC. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #98

SUMMER OF THE SHARK AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #100

AFRICANIZED BEES Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #102

I've seen two wonderful honey bee hives exterminated thanks to that eom Cetacea Sep 2019 #117

Kill folks the old fashioned Murican way, none of this newfangled digital crap Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #101

How about customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #103

How About Mind Your Own Business? -NT- jayfish Sep 2019 #105

I'm not advocating a ban customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #106

No on is advocating it as a necessity. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #109

Like food? Cetacea Sep 2019 #118

Food has nutritive value customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #119

Have people lost the ability to argue without being insulting? Cetacea Sep 2019 #120

Well, I must admit... DFW Sep 2019 #121

I find the smell of weed ofensive. Cetacea Sep 2019 #122