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politicaljunkie41910

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50. What are we becoming? An uptight nation that's afraid to have any physical contact with people.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 06:36 PM
Mar 2019

I came from a large family where we used to hug and kiss our Mom goodbye when we left for school as children. We even fought to get to the head of the line and kiss her first in those days. ) (My Dad left really early for work so we didn't have the same ritual.Somehow over the years it stopped. I guess as we became teens, we thought it was not cool or something to hug or kiss your Mom and Dad.

When I met my future husband, he was a very touchy, hand holding, huggy guy; moreso than I. During our dating it quickly became normal and I liked it. When I met his family for the first time, they were all a touchy, huggy family, and I liked it. No one every departed an event without telling everyone they loved them. Someone asked my husband about it one time, and his response was, "I want my Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, whomever ....to know that I love them while they are alive and can hear it from me." From the first time our families met, my husband hugged everyone, and always kissed everyone goodbye and told everyone, "I Love You". It became our family's normal.

Every group of friends and relatives we have, hugs and kisses when we arrive and when we depart, and it all began with my husband. We hug and kiss our friends hello and goodbye. It is so natural for everyone now and they like it as well. We tell each other we love you still, and they have passed it on to their own families and friends. Our reputation precedes us because whenever someone new gets introduced to our friends and family, or my husband and his friend's car club, and they say "Hello", someone always says "they don't accept handshakes here, you better give them a hug"; and everyone always laughs because they are so used to it. You can tell over the years that they have become a lot more affectionate with their own families, and it's brought us a lot closer as a group and friends.

The same goes for "huggy" women; please don't expect that all men are comfortable with it. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #1
I don't like that either, but I usually don't think there's a sexual component. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #2
A person can be uncomfortable about touch from someone else without it being sexual. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #4
Agree MoonRiver Mar 2019 #5
Agree. Backslappers and handshakers at bars (natural or booze-induced) piss me off to no end. Volaris Mar 2019 #23
A handshake isn't forced touching Polybius Mar 2019 #104
...and an ackward problem arises. demosincebirth Mar 2019 #187
As a hand-shaker, I wanna disagree with you Polybius Mar 2019 #207
So true. I've never liked being touched ...by anybody that I'm not Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #29
I agree that it is normal human interaction. Beartracks Mar 2019 #88
Lighten up Frances! hueymahl Mar 2019 #114
Ha! It's easy to think that the issue is clear-cut, until you start listening to other people's WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #115
What are we becoming? An uptight nation that's afraid to have any physical contact with people. politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2019 #50
Thank you!!!! nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #56
People who are more sparing with their physical touch aren't uptight. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #57
Are there people who can't shake hands? treestar Mar 2019 #97
Could be. If I was introduced to someone who held up their hands and said, "I don't shake hands, WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #105
I don't hug anybody treestar Mar 2019 #167
I get many colds. Many. Bad ones. dawg day Mar 2019 #176
I have people say that treestar Mar 2019 #196
Yup. demosincebirth Mar 2019 #186
Anthropologists and psychologists are probably excited/mortified by this change in Human behavior. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #75
Chimps, all the other primates... jberryhill Mar 2019 #76
That's the simplest starting point to remember and frame one's response to touch from. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #83
But many people have a personal history which modifies that jberryhill Mar 2019 #84
Again, that's why I pointed out examples of good and bad. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #92
I've seen articles on how to establish control by being the first one to treestar Mar 2019 #168
Agree. Everything can be overdone. Cleaning up manners is Hortensis Mar 2019 #77
I grew up in a family that was uptight janterry Mar 2019 #127
Thank you True Blue American Mar 2019 #130
I remember meeting True Blue American Mar 2019 #128
Goes for all genders. Consent matters. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #3
In India, the preferred greeting is "Namaste" at140 Mar 2019 #6
india is full of men that grope women they don't know JI7 Mar 2019 #16
Hey our president gropes women, so in a population at140 Mar 2019 #52
India has particular problems with tradition, patriarchy, sexism, and a severe shortage of women... Hekate Mar 2019 #80
What you said does not jive with my own experience at140 Mar 2019 #86
Beg your pardon. Some of the brightest and most educated people I know here in California are.... Hekate Mar 2019 #93
Gender imbalance..I have seen it first hand at140 Mar 2019 #110
Change happens, even to our beloved memories. Hekate Mar 2019 #117
Ever see Demolition Man? Baconator Mar 2019 #123
This isn't India treestar Mar 2019 #199
Every politician does it. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #7
No they don't CentralMass Mar 2019 #10
Yes they do. I did a google search today of Warren, Harris, Gillibrand and Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #12
That's because they're all extroverts? Volaris Mar 2019 #28
I don't consider bernie an extrovert. But I have seen him put his hands on the Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #31
I don't want to let this devolve into me posting negative things about Joe Biden. I like the guy CentralMass Mar 2019 #38
Do you find pictures of these other candidates Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #41
Whispering intimately in the ear???? Seriously? Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #44
If you haven't run across pictures/videos like this of Biden, Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #49
Who do these candidates think they are hugging, touching and putting their arms around other people? democratisphere Mar 2019 #60
Huge difference between a mutual hug, and a one sided at140 Mar 2019 #66
But Joe did know Flores. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #78
How well did Joe know her? at140 Mar 2019 #82
Well enough until treestar Mar 2019 #100
Neither of your photos are the same as described. karynnj Mar 2019 #73
Hugging is not the same as nuzzling your nose into a woman's neck or hair. pnwmom Mar 2019 #85
The proper response would have been for HER SoCalDem Mar 2019 #191
Exactly treestar Mar 2019 #99
They are practically supposed treestar Mar 2019 #98
Every politician comes up behind a stranger, sniffs her hair and then plants a Squinch Mar 2019 #149
You think we don't know this? wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #8
You would apparently be surprised how many people don't.......or at least behave as if they don't. WillowTree Mar 2019 #37
Apparently not. Have a gander at "Latest Threads." Squinch Mar 2019 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Mar 2019 #9
Well said jb. President Obama many times could be seen hugging people during his campaign of both still_one Mar 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Mar 2019 #20
I really enjoy and get a kick out of how you phrase things still_one Mar 2019 #26
Well, that's not to say there aren't a lot of traumatized law students jberryhill Mar 2019 #69
LOL still_one Mar 2019 #102
If you're going to try to make this topic about Biden, it belongs in Democratic Primaries, not GD. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Mar 2019 #19
"okay anonymous internet guy" TwilightZone Mar 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Mar 2019 #40
FWIW I thought yr username was a spin off of a Fats Domino record emulatorloo Mar 2019 #55
Ah, yes, the family anthem jberryhill Mar 2019 #63
... emulatorloo Mar 2019 #64
I didn't get into a tizzy. Are you referring to my pointing out that this sort of discussion highplainsdem Mar 2019 #43
There really hasn't been a lot of research into this in particular jberryhill Mar 2019 #54
Thanks for sharing your experiences in this thread. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #154
Right wingers have been using photos to make this point about him treestar Mar 2019 #170
I've got no issues with any of that except this: shanny Mar 2019 #46
One Rosetta Stone for understanding Biden is this jberryhill Mar 2019 #61
thanks for the lesson shanny Mar 2019 #150
So well said & thanks for your input. I love Biden's Uncle Joe persona. His record is fine with me-- Hekate Mar 2019 #70
I think people's mileage varies on this one jberryhill Mar 2019 #72
I wish this was its own OP True Dough Mar 2019 #152
That's true for everyone with whom you don't have a close MineralMan Mar 2019 #11
It always creeps me out when a Mom or Dad tells their small child to SoCalDem Mar 2019 #192
My parents never did that to us, their children. MineralMan Mar 2019 #193
A co-worker's husband recently committed suicide... Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #15
The woman you hugged was a friend; I'm sure she appreciated the gesture The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #21
Did you ask if it was welcome, first? Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #47
Oh, for crying out loud! nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #58
One of the communities I call my family Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #62
Generally a hug begins with open arms and is easily spurned. Chemisse Mar 2019 #146
It's not an issue of molesting or not. Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #172
Exactly it is not even treestar Mar 2019 #101
Even when it isn't meant to be sexual Codeine Mar 2019 #121
I never do it treestar Mar 2019 #165
Poor dear. It is all so hard for you when people say they don't want to be approached from Squinch Mar 2019 #141
I don't like being handled by strangers of either gender. Period. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #17
Even if you're any human who is touchy feely, do not put your hands on anyone else with ... marble falls Mar 2019 #18
As a woman, I disagree. I would hate to see spontaneous displays of compassion or affection or highplainsdem Mar 2019 #22
Obama and Michele were very affectionate and touchy with strangers..Nobody Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #25
Remember when Michelle hugged the Queen of England? How shocking it was supposed to be, highplainsdem Mar 2019 #27
she put her arm around her and the queen did the same after JI7 Mar 2019 #30
That is a great example iamateacher Mar 2019 #34
Would it have been perfect if she sniffed the Queen's hair and then placed a lingering kiss on the Squinch Mar 2019 #140
Obama and Michelle never approached relative strangers from behind, sniffed their hair, and then Squinch Mar 2019 #139
Whatever. You prefer to believe the account of someone whose account Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #178
I do believe the account of the woman. She is just one of a good number of women who have Squinch Mar 2019 #180
Flores & Biden were political teammates waiting to go onstage. Flores showed signs of stage fright, highplainsdem Mar 2019 #188
Oh, well, you have it all figured out. So glad you put that all in perspective. I guess we can Squinch Mar 2019 #189
I'm not a guy. I'm a woman. And I know not all physical contact from men, including men I don't highplainsdem Mar 2019 #190
Because the Obamas never "copped a feel" when rusty fender Mar 2019 #177
I gotta agree. It depends. I've had a man walk up to me, in my "space," .... Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #74
Yes. And do those people stand treestar Mar 2019 #103
Why does this always bring out these ridiculous comparisons? Do you see the woman who didn't want Squinch Mar 2019 #138
DU had no problem identifying the issue when it was W jberryhill Mar 2019 #142
I love Joe. But my primary concern with this is that it is an unforced error. It shows a problem Squinch Mar 2019 #144
That was a distinct social situation. treestar Mar 2019 #162
Right. Totally different. Squinch Mar 2019 #163
But now we have people on the thread treestar Mar 2019 #161
I can't stand crowds and hate being touched...however... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #179
And when they sniff your hair and plant lingering kisses on your head when you don't know them? Squinch Mar 2019 #181
I don't believe her account. She tried to bring in a friend to caroborate her account.. Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #194
I totally agree. A touch can mean so much in so many heartfelt ways. Chemisse Mar 2019 #147
The wounds of puritanism run deep. Triloon Mar 2019 #24
Thanks. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #59
Honoring others' boundaries is actually the opposite of puritanism. Squinch Mar 2019 #91
It has fuck-all to do with Puritanism. Codeine Mar 2019 #122
+1 True Dough Mar 2019 #151
Puritan True Blue American Mar 2019 #129
As a female, I agree BUT TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #32
Nearly two years in PA... Harker Mar 2019 #35
women who refer to others as honey sweetheart darling etc JI7 Mar 2019 #39
That's what I meant by "not entirely personal." Harker Mar 2019 #51
Guys that call me "bro" jberryhill Mar 2019 #68
Yes. Harker Mar 2019 #125
In Delaware treestar Mar 2019 #106
Not Just Delaware ProfessorGAC Mar 2019 #120
Better than "Jack" Harker Mar 2019 #126
I'm leaning towards Joe because I think he can win MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #36
Now that the bar has been lowered treestar Mar 2019 #108
Seriously. Agree MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #111
The bar is not lowered unless we lower it, and touching others who do not want to be touched in Squinch Mar 2019 #136
We have lowered it treestar Mar 2019 #164
I didn't. Did you? I daresay no one posting here would say they have. Squinch Mar 2019 #166
Yup. I got a painful lesson in that after a Christmas party 20 years ago. The_jackalope Mar 2019 #42
I don't like to hug people for the most part...other than my wife and family and a few really good f Buckeyeblue Mar 2019 #45
Oh, for fuck's sake. Squinch Mar 2019 #107
You said it! True Blue American Mar 2019 #131
There is a generational difference nt BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #48
Joe is over exuberant MFM008 Mar 2019 #53
No, Joe is handsy. I love him, but he has always been handsy. Handsy is not a good thing to be. Squinch Mar 2019 #134
This should not even need to be said. Autumn Mar 2019 #65
Sadly, many women are too uncomfortable to speak up. liberalmuse Mar 2019 #67
That's a balanced take jberryhill Mar 2019 #71
Agreed. Even if there's no sexual intent. It's still creepy. catbyte Mar 2019 #79
Agree. lilactime Mar 2019 #81
Not just women. I don't want people touching me. tymorial Mar 2019 #87
Since it is obvious... quickesst Mar 2019 #89
Thank you for saying this DesertRat Mar 2019 #94
What about doctors Beringia Mar 2019 #95
Didnt they have a nurse come in? treestar Mar 2019 #109
No Beringia Mar 2019 #113
What about men? treestar Mar 2019 #96
Yea sure, "can I put my hands on your shoulders, lady?" demosincebirth Mar 2019 #112
Exactly. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #119
Why do you need to put your hands on a woman's shoulders where that might be a questionable Squinch Mar 2019 #133
I don't agree. You shouldn't live your life based on some people possibly misinterpreting cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #116
Exactly. nt LAS14 Mar 2019 #118
when passing through a crowd, how do you do it without touching people? indie9197 Mar 2019 #124
Poor dear. People are being so unfair to you. All these damn women who tired of being groped! Squinch Mar 2019 #132
I guess we all must walk around in our individual shells now. Vinca Mar 2019 #135
I don't know you and don't want your bodily fluids on my shoulder jberryhill Mar 2019 #143
NO! It is NOT! This woman who doesn't want to be approached from behind by a stranger, Squinch Mar 2019 #145
These people should step back and listen Codeine Mar 2019 #155
I've been here since 2012. You've been here a lot longer. I think we have both seen that EVERY Squinch Mar 2019 #156
Yep. Tipperary Mar 2019 #182
Or a little girl HockeyMom Mar 2019 #137
Yes. I was very careful with my daughters also, and they learned to respect their personal space. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #159
Anyone who is touched in an unwanted way needs to let the person know on the spot! Chemisse Mar 2019 #148
She was being introduced to make a speech. Should she have stopped all the proceedings and Squinch Mar 2019 #184
Do you recall when Ivanka pulled away from creepy Dad when he was feeling up her sides? Chemisse Mar 2019 #195
So his actions ARE her responsibility, then? Squinch Mar 2019 #200
Oh and I just read that they were in line for an appearance. Chemisse Mar 2019 #202
I don't mind. I appreciate appropriate hugs, touches. tavernier Mar 2019 #153
And if a relative stranger came up to you from behind, smelled your hair and then lingeringly Squinch Mar 2019 #157
I would but treestar Mar 2019 #169
Of course. She mistook a long kiss on her head. My objections have nothing to do with Squinch Mar 2019 #171
It was not in public, so let's get a third party witness treestar Mar 2019 #173
I DO know BS supporters exaggerate. I know it is their MO. But, again, this has nothing to Squinch Mar 2019 #174
They were in public, so there might be someone else treestar Mar 2019 #197
And he has been photographed doing this kind of thing to women he doesn't know in the past. Squinch Mar 2019 #201
Come on... I said appropriate. tavernier Mar 2019 #175
Or if someone on your staff complains about harassment don't deny it. we can do it Mar 2019 #158
Agree, but that is a somewhat different discussion. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #160
I'm a man who does not like being touched without permission. LS_Editor Mar 2019 #183
Look, we need to stop these attacks on DEMS!!!! doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #185
And there is no good way to talk yourself out if you get creeping. Initech Mar 2019 #198
i am a huggy lady and i dont feel threatened when a man hugs me samnsara Mar 2019 #203
I had to get used... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #204
I put my hand out for a handshake. MicaelS Mar 2019 #205
Certainly something to keep in mind aka-chmeee Mar 2019 #206
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