General Discussion

JCanete

(5,272 posts)

114. What damage. If Sanders supporters came out in the same ratio for Clinton that Clinton supporters

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:54 PM

Jun 2018

came out for Obama, then at least working with the fact we have, it appears that it wasn't those who most found Sander's message appealing who ended up not voting for Clinton. They came out. They came out in the same numbers that people have in the past after a hotly contested primary. Thems the facts. To try to turn this into "some sanders supporters cost us the election" while ignoring the far bigger truth, your statement is burgeoning on scapegoating.

As for who those voters were, who didnt' vote for Clinton, some were unquestionably from the far left, some very well might have been from the independent center, likely soured on Clinton for the massive amount of untrue rhetoric about the Clintons that has gotten play in right-wing media over the years. If he pulled those voters, and then they strayed back away the democratic party in the GE, well that should be no surprise and is not on Sanders.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

119 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Bernie, you're killin' me. [View all] cynatnite Jun 2018 OP

Hat tip to Bernie. aikoaiko Jun 2018 #1

You betcha. That man is comedy gold Hekate Jun 2018 #35

What ELSE did he say? elleng Jun 2018 #2

Rinse, Recycle, Repeat sheshe2 Jun 2018 #26

"In many ways, we really outsmarted Mt. Vesuvius." - Mayor of Pompeii Cha Jun 2018 #54

,,,, lapucelle Jun 2018 #76

You're Welcome, lapucelle! Cha Jun 2018 #78

OMG! sheshe2 Jun 2018 #96

Here's another Hilarious one.. from ehrnst! Cha Jun 2018 #97

LOLOLOL to all of these! Thanks! Nt spooky3 Jun 2018 #101

That dinosaur one was Cha Jun 2018 #107

Thanks, Cha. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #103

Yeah.. I think we're Cha Jun 2018 #106

I guess a lot depends on the definition of "we". lapucelle Jun 2018 #77

Remember that old line decades ago about the Lone Ranger and Tonto? George II Jun 2018 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C Jun 2018 #102

"Bernie Sanders Defends Sarah Sanders: People Have a Right To Go to a Restaurant for Dinner" Cha Jun 2018 #38

What he said there was perfectly reasonable. elleng Jun 2018 #40

No it wasn't. I'm sure Stephanie Wilkinson is all broken up that BS Cha Jun 2018 #44

I realize you said this yesterday, but there are posts about that book party now on DU. George II Jun 2018 #104

TONE DEAF. Tatiana Jun 2018 #3

Of course there is additional context. dogman Jun 2018 #10

Thanks for that! nt babylonsister Jun 2018 #12

But Ben Jealous has little chance of beating a spooky3 Jun 2018 #28

Aw, c'mon. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #32

Oh man..spit take! BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #47

So it would be better if he said "oh shit, we're gonna lose? dogman Jun 2018 #50

You take your wins, but you don't misinterpret them. spooky3 Jun 2018 #58

He's a campaigner, not a pundit. dogman Jun 2018 #62

I'll take NOT having FUCKED trump over Cha Jun 2018 #39

I agree..and as I said earlier ...moving the party to the left by stripping it of all power and Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #88

Not to mention the devastation to our Cha Jun 2018 #90

The damage to the environment is catastrophic and in some cases irreversible. The Greens should Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #91

Ergo my sig line.. GET Cha Jun 2018 #93

Awesome! Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #95

Hey, Demsrule.. Cha Jun 2018 #108

Still tone deaf.. Cha Jun 2018 #41

Yes you are. dogman Jun 2018 #51

"Yes you are." All you have are personal attacks tying to defend Cha Jun 2018 #53

"Tone deaf" isn't a personal attack? dogman Jun 2018 #55

I wasn't addressing it to you. Cha Jun 2018 #56

Then back to the story. dogman Jun 2018 #57

That has not happened ...after losing the courts in this quest for 'revolution' , we will be lucky Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #89

What does that have to do with Democrats NOT winning the election? George II Jun 2018 #117

... nolabear Jun 2018 #4

WTF is that supposed to mean?? honest.abe Jun 2018 #5

This is what Susan Sarandon implied RandySF Jun 2018 #6

And they are both wrong. Adrahil Jun 2018 #64

This post has nothing to do with the last primary.... bettyellen Jun 2018 #7

Bernie to voters: No need to show up RandySF Jun 2018 #8

The word delusional comes to mind. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #48

The book is a titled How Bernie Won? sheshe2 Jun 2018 #9

I assumed that was a joke. It is real. betsuni Jun 2018 #52

What did he win? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #81

OMG. Read this! sheshe2 Jun 2018 #98

Each day since trump took office is worse than the day before. Millions of people are suffering lunamagica Jun 2018 #11

I'm sure it helps to be a millionaire RandySF Jun 2018 #13

Compared to Clinton and other democrats gyroscope Jun 2018 #14

Can you verify that? ucrdem Jun 2018 #17

Google is your friend gyroscope Jun 2018 #22

My friend Google can't seem to locate his full tax returns. ucrdem Jun 2018 #25

Thanks to you and your friend Google, ucr Cha Jun 2018 #70

Google is your friend sheshe2 Jun 2018 #31

For second year, Sanders earns more than $1M Cha Jun 2018 #71

Hey you. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #29

$885,767 from "advances and royalties" ucrdem Jun 2018 #65

About the book sheshe2 Jun 2018 #100

White privilege on steroids. ucrdem Jun 2018 #109

;) sheshe2 Jun 2018 #110

He earned his millions the hard way? How? lunamagica Jun 2018 #18

lol DURHAM D Jun 2018 #20

He can't take their money he is still in office bottomofthehill Jun 2018 #27

It is illegal for a sitting senator to take speaking fees emulatorloo Jun 2018 #37

Just STOP spouting that TIRED old BULLSHIT that HELPED Cha Jun 2018 #66

No doubt. He and Sarandon can pontificate from their ivory towers. Nothing trump lunamagica Jun 2018 #15

See this, luna. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #99

Unfugging believable that they are so brazenly admitting it...but we knew it all along, didn't we, lunamagica Jun 2018 #118

You are right about this sheshe2 Jun 2018 #119

Translation BruceWane Jun 2018 #16

Exactly! comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #59

Mahalo, Bruce.. Cha Jun 2018 #79

Susan Sarandon: Thanks To Trump The populace is 'awake' TomCADem Jun 2018 #19

Is that the comic bookstore owner, whathisname in the white shirt? oasis Jun 2018 #21

Am I Living In An Alternate Universe? Me. Jun 2018 #23

Right now, what Bernie says is not the point. kstewart33 Jun 2018 #24

Bernie is yesterday kimbutgar Jun 2018 #30

Well, his supporters got their tariffs, reneging on trade agreements, immigration control, and Hoyt Jun 2018 #33

Many of us...and there are Clinton supporters in that mix here on this board , who did not like the JCanete Jun 2018 #69

Most Sanders supporters voting for Clinton, didn't cost us the election -- just a few thousand did. Hoyt Jun 2018 #74

What cost us the election was... cannabis_flower Jun 2018 #80

I don't think so. No one voted for trump based upon Russian lies, unless they were leaning that way Hoyt Jun 2018 #83

hey, we agree on something here. ON the other hand, our media has been doing a powerful JCanete Jun 2018 #116

What damage. If Sanders supporters came out in the same ratio for Clinton that Clinton supporters JCanete Jun 2018 #114

I disliked the TPP...and I supported Clinton...I also believe in fair trade, but Trumps mess will Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #84

You have a good point there . lunasun Jun 2018 #82

Dammit, did I miss the revolution? Somebody wake me up next time. betsuni Jun 2018 #34

I couldn't be more over Bernie. We need a real Democrat in that seat. Bleacher Creature Jun 2018 #36

Can we please just put a hold on the circular firing squad? OhioBlue Jun 2018 #42

In many ways huh? fallout87 Jun 2018 #43

There won't be an incumbent Democrat in the White House comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #61

That is his version of winning? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #85

Sanders MFM008 Jun 2018 #45

Democrats have no business defending the abomination or giving it praise dalton99a Jun 2018 #46

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2018 #49

Bernie is the singular reason drumpf resides in the WH. democratisphere Jun 2018 #60

holy fuck...people won't let this absolutely unfounded line of bullshit lie. Why are you spouting JCanete Jun 2018 #68

What a maroon! NT Adrahil Jun 2018 #63

And its the same thing Maher said when he interviewed him, the point being that JCanete Jun 2018 #67

BS is wrong.. I'd give anything to NOT have trump Rigged in.. Cha Jun 2018 #72

Well look, I agree with you that if Sanders is talking about the overall results of not just his JCanete Jun 2018 #73

Yeah...and losing the courts for a generation makes this so worthwhile...not Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #86

Pulling the party to te left was not worth losing the courts for a generation...it just wasn't. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #87

except that you cannot point to any evidencde that doing so lost us the election. Its frustrating JCanete Jun 2018 #111

We all have our opinions on this...but the idea that somehow this is a silver lining...I don't Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #112

well overall it might be a silver lining, but i"m as cynical as you are here, but I"m not sure that JCanete Jun 2018 #115

Sanders said that we really won in 16. I didn't make that up...his words. Sorry I don't think we Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #113

This is how he has been such a legislative powerhouse. nt NCTraveler Jun 2018 #75

Give it a rest. mac56 Jun 2018 #94

Bernie will do anything to stick up for his... dubyadiprecession Jun 2018 #105