Bernie, you're killin' me.

[cynatnite]

Link to tweet

[aikoaiko]

1. Hat tip to Bernie.

[Hekate]

35. You betcha. That man is comedy gold

[elleng]

2. What ELSE did he say?

Anything informative?

[sheshe2]

26. Rinse, Recycle, Repeat

[Cha]

54. "In many ways, we really outsmarted Mt. Vesuvius." - Mayor of Pompeii

Link to tweet

[lapucelle]

76. ,,,,

Mahalo, my friend!!!

[Cha]

78. You're Welcome, lapucelle!

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

96. OMG!

[Cha]

97. Here's another Hilarious one.. from ehrnst!

Link to tweet

LOL .. and Sid..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10802622

she

[spooky3]

101. LOLOLOL to all of these! Thanks! Nt

[Cha]

107. That dinosaur one was

freaking funny! It really cracked me up for some reason. spooky

[sheshe2]

103. Thanks, Cha.

I needed a laugh.

[Cha]

106. Yeah.. I think we're

all just looking for a little levity.. some respite.. Thanks BS!

[lapucelle]

77. I guess a lot depends on the definition of "we".

[George II]

92. Remember that old line decades ago about the Lone Ranger and Tonto?

When surrounded by hostile Indians, the Lone Ranger says "looks like we are in trouble." Tonto replied "What do you mean we?"

[Cha]

38. "Bernie Sanders Defends Sarah Sanders: People Have a Right To Go to a Restaurant for Dinner"

snip//

On MSNBC on Wednesday, former democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders defended White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the currently dominant political topic of civility in politics.

“Look, as I’ve said before, yeah, I think people have the right to go into a restaurant and have dinner,” said Sanders (Bernie) about Saunders (Sarah) being kicked out of a restaurant with her family over political differences.

Host Kristen Welker was asking the Vermont senator about the lack of civility in general at first, and he said he’s “not a great fan of shouting down people or being rude to people,” but that people have a right to be angry.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-defends-sarah-sanders-people-have-a-right-to-go-to-a-restaurant-for-dinner/

lapucelle

Link to tweet

[elleng]

40. What he said there was perfectly reasonable.

I'm interested to know about the DC book store party about which Kos apparently posted,


✔
@AnnieLinskey
Bernie Sanders at a book party in DC says “in many ways we did win the election.”

but haven't seen anything here about that.

[Cha]

44. No it wasn't. I'm sure Stephanie Wilkinson is all broken up that BS

is defending SFS over her..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[George II]

104. I realize you said this yesterday, but there are posts about that book party now on DU.

[Tatiana]

3. TONE DEAF.

And this is why we need a progressive youth movement. Bernie is great in many ways, but this type of thinking (unless there is additional context that is missing) is why we LOSE.

[dogman]

10. Of course there is additional context.

The victories of Ben Jealous and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez espousing Medicare for all and K-12+ education. Policies that differ from Trump and inspire new voters.

[babylonsister]

12. Thanks for that! nt

[spooky3]

28. But Ben Jealous has little chance of beating a

Popular incumbent, Hogan.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/622972925/in-this-blue-blue-state-democrats-fight-to-beat-popular-republican-governor

And many “establishment” Dems have won their primaries. It’s wonderful that Ocasio-Cortez won, but she won in a very blue district that would be more inclined to support her policies than the typical district...against an opponent who couldn’t be bothered to show up for debates.

I don’t see any trend here other than I think many voters are getting angrier by the day.

[OilemFirchen]

32. Aw, c'mon.

Give OR their due props, however slight.

They'll probably turn on these candidates in a week or so anyway.

[BannonsLiver]

47. Oh man..spit take!

[dogman]

50. So it would be better if he said "oh shit, we're gonna lose?

You take your wins where you get them and move forward with a positive agenda. JMO

[spooky3]

58. You take your wins, but you don't misinterpret them.

[dogman]

62. He's a campaigner, not a pundit.

I should say, experienced campaigner and a winner generally speaking.

[Cha]

39. I'll take NOT having FUCKED trump over

that.. any day of the day week.

[Demsrule86]

88. I agree..and as I said earlier ...moving the party to the left by stripping it of all power and

influence and losing the courts for a generation in the process was so not worth it.

[Cha]

90. Not to mention the devastation to our

only inhabitable Planet.

[Demsrule86]

91. The damage to the environment is catastrophic and in some cases irreversible. The Greens should

change their name...they are not green in any way.

[Cha]

93. Ergo my sig line.. GET

GREEN VOTE BLUE!

[Demsrule86]

95. Awesome!

[Cha]

108. Hey, Demsrule..

[Cha]

41. Still tone deaf..

"Bernie Sanders Defends Sarah Sanders: People Have a Right To Go to a Restaurant for Dinner"

On MSNBC on Wednesday, former democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders defended White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the currently dominant political topic of civility in politics.

“Look, as I’ve said before, yeah, I think people have the right to go into a restaurant and have dinner,” said Sanders (Bernie) about Saunders (Sarah) being kicked out of a restaurant with her family over political differences.

Host Kristen Welker was asking the Vermont senator about the lack of civility in general at first, and he said he’s “not a great fan of shouting down people or being rude to people,” but that people have a right to be angry.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-defends-sarah-sanders-people-have-a-right-to-go-to-a-restaurant-for-dinner/

lapucelle

[dogman]

51. Yes you are.

Bernie wants to bring revolution through the ballot box, He has espoused non-violence since his days with CORE.

[Cha]

53. "Yes you are." All you have are personal attacks tying to defend

the indefensible. You lose.

[dogman]

55. "Tone deaf" isn't a personal attack?

I was just returning the compliment if that is how you meant it.

[Cha]

56. I wasn't addressing it to you.

[dogman]

57. Then back to the story.

What is there to defend? Bernie feels people should not be harassed publicly. I would be willing to wager that the majority of people feel that way. Hardly tone deaf, more like a normal response from some one that realizes they live in a glass house.

[Demsrule86]

89. That has not happened ...after losing the courts in this quest for 'revolution' , we will be lucky

to still have the right vote in a few years. Senator Sanders didn't win anything and the country lost enormously. It will be a tough fight to get back even to the center now.

[George II]

117. What does that have to do with Democrats NOT winning the election?

[nolabear]

4. ...

[honest.abe]

5. WTF is that supposed to mean??

We lost the most important and consequential election in my lifetime.

[RandySF]

6. This is what Susan Sarandon implied

When she said a Trump victory will bring the revolution.

[Adrahil]

64. And they are both wrong.

Please tell those kids in cages how they really won!

[bettyellen]

7. This post has nothing to do with the last primary....

[RandySF]

8. Bernie to voters: No need to show up

We won the election.

[BannonsLiver]

48. The word delusional comes to mind.

[sheshe2]

9. The book is a titled How Bernie Won?

OMFG.



Let 2016 go Bernie, you lost. This is unbelievable 2018 and he lives in 2016.

[betsuni]

52. I assumed that was a joke. It is real.

What an odd title. No "us" "we" "our" just ... Bernie won? Seems awfully, you know.

[Demsrule86]

81. What did he win?

[sheshe2]

98. OMG. Read this!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BLXrVX-5L._SX328_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

The brilliant manager of Bernie Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign shows how Bernie took on the entire establishment and changed modern American politics for good.

When Jeff Weaver hopped in a car with Bernie Sanders in the summer of 1986, he had no idea the Vermont backroads would lead them all the way to the 2016 presidential campaign.

In How Bernie Won, Weaver shows how Bernie sparked a movement that would sweep America and inspire millions. He vowed not to run a negative campaign. He would focus on policies, not personalities. He would not be beholden to big money. He would actually make America work for ordinary people. Weaver also shows how they overcame significant challenges: A media that thrived on negative campaigns. A party controlled by insiders. And a political system dependent on big money. Weaver explains how Bernie beat them all and, in doing so, went from having little national name recognition when he entered to the race to being one of the most respected and well-known people in the world by its end―because, Weaver argues, Bernie won the race.

He moved the discussion from the concerns of the 1% to those of the 99%. He forced the Democrats to remember their populist roots. And he showed that an outsider with real ideas and ways to get them done could compete and win against the establishment’s hand-picked candidate.

From holding bags of “Bernie buttons” and picket-stick signs, to managing thousands of campaign workers, to looking ahead to 2020, Weaver chronicles the birth of a revolution that didn’t end in November 2016. It’s only just begun.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Bernie-Won-Revolution-Country/dp/1250144752

[lunamagica]

11. Each day since trump took office is worse than the day before. Millions of people are suffering

children are being torn away from their parents, yet Sanders says "In many ways we did win the election"

WHO is "WE"!?!?!?!?!

He NEEDS to explain NOW.

[RandySF]

13. I'm sure it helps to be a millionaire

[gyroscope]

14. Compared to Clinton and other democrats

Sanders is a pauper. He earned his money the hard way, not by giving multi-million dollar speeches to Wall Street, because he doesn't take their money.

[ucrdem]

17. Can you verify that?

Can anyone verify that or any other claim about his donors?

[gyroscope]

22. Google is your friend

Hillary Clinton exaggerated when she claimed Bernie Sanders “took about $200,000 from Wall Street firms” through the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. The DSCC did provide about $200,000 to support Sanders’ 2006 Senate race, but a relatively small percentage of the DSCC’s contributions came from “Wall Street.”

In fact, the DSCC’s largest single contributor that year was Friends of Hillary — which was Clinton’s Senate campaign.


https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/clintons-exaggerated-wall-street-claim/

This is not to bash Clinton, but to point out the hypocrisy of some of her followers who love to bash Sanders for his alleged "wealth" while Clinton is far more wealthier than he is.

[ucrdem]

25. My friend Google can't seem to locate his full tax returns.

It keeps returning stuff like this:

"Berrnie Sanders’s false claim that he has released his full federal tax returns"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/?utm_term=.2baa36314223

and this:

"Sanders Evades Tax Question"
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/sanders-evades-tax-question/

[Cha]

70. Thanks to you and your friend Google, ucr

"Berrnie Sanders’s false claim that he has released his full federal tax returns"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/?utm_term=.2baa36314223

and this:

"Sanders Evades Tax Question"
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/sanders-evades-tax-question/

[sheshe2]

31. Google is your friend

For second year, Sanders earns more than $1M

https://vtdigger.org/2018/06/22/second-year-sanders-earns-1m/

[Cha]

71. For second year, Sanders earns more than $1M

Thanks for googling that, she..

https://vtdigger.org/2018/06/22/second-year-sanders-earns-1m/

Good ol Google

[sheshe2]

29. Hey you.

For second year, Sanders earns more than $1M

https://vtdigger.org/2018/06/22/second-year-sanders-earns-1m/

Interesting stuff here.

[ucrdem]

65. $885,767 from "advances and royalties"

For one unremarkable memoir in one year. That's a lot of lettuce. How does he get royalties on a book that's barely a year old? And who the heck would buy it? I saw it when it came out and it was basically Bernie's side of the story straight from Twitter and not a lot of it. And now Weaver is getting in on the act with How Bernie Won. Well it wasn't by winning, that's for sure!

[sheshe2]

100. About the book

The brilliant manager of Bernie Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign shows how Bernie took on the entire establishment and changed modern American politics for good.

When Jeff Weaver hopped in a car with Bernie Sanders in the summer of 1986, he had no idea the Vermont backroads would lead them all the way to the 2016 presidential campaign.

In How Bernie Won, Weaver shows how Bernie sparked a movement that would sweep America and inspire millions. He vowed not to run a negative campaign. He would focus on policies, not personalities. He would not be beholden to big money. He would actually make America work for ordinary people. Weaver also shows how they overcame significant challenges: A media that thrived on negative campaigns. A party controlled by insiders. And a political system dependent on big money. Weaver explains how Bernie beat them all and, in doing so, went from having little national name recognition when he entered to the race to being one of the most respected and well-known people in the world by its end―because, Weaver argues, Bernie won the race.

He moved the discussion from the concerns of the 1% to those of the 99%. He forced the Democrats to remember their populist roots. And he showed that an outsider with real ideas and ways to get them done could compete and win against the establishment’s hand-picked candidate.

From holding bags of “Bernie buttons” and picket-stick signs, to managing thousands of campaign workers, to looking ahead to 2020, Weaver chronicles the birth of a revolution that didn’t end in November 2016. It’s only just begun.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Bernie-Won-Revolution-Country/dp/1250144752

[ucrdem]

109. White privilege on steroids.

They got theirs, there's a white guy in the oval office who finds them useful, they defeated Hillary and see it as a great victory, life is good. Sanders' book was the same self-regarding fantasy. I better stop there.

[sheshe2]

110. ;)

Yep

[lunamagica]

18. He earned his millions the hard way? How?

[DURHAM D]

20. lol

That is funny.

[bottomofthehill]

27. He can't take their money he is still in office

We will see what happens when he is no longer held to the Senate outside earnings limits.

[emulatorloo]

37. It is illegal for a sitting senator to take speaking fees

Good on Bernie for not breaking the law.

[Cha]

66. Just STOP spouting that TIRED old BULLSHIT that HELPED

get trump RIGGED in.

Hillary Fucking WARNED Us..

Link to tweet

[lunamagica]

15. No doubt. He and Sarandon can pontificate from their ivory towers. Nothing trump

does can harm them.

[sheshe2]

99. See this, luna.

https://www.amazon.com/How-Bernie-Won-Revolution-Country/dp/1250144752

Unfugging believable

[lunamagica]

118. Unfugging believable that they are so brazenly admitting it...but we knew it all along, didn't we,

Sheshe?

The signs were there all along, subtle as neon lights. The way they allowed his followers to try to sabotage the Democratic convention, to him taking forever to endorse her, his lackluster "campaigning" for Hillary...it was clear to anyone who honestly looked at the facts. Hillary's loss was their win. It didn't matter that Hillary's loss was America's loss. All that mattered was their win, no matter who suffers and pays for it.

[sheshe2]

119. You are right about this

The signs were there all along, subtle as neon lights.

We all saw it.

Now I feel an overwhelming sadness for the world we are leaving our young.

[BruceWane]

16. Translation

Translation - I am in complete denial of my significant role in the electoral loss that is almost certain to leave our country immersed in a New Dark Age.

[comradebillyboy]

59. Exactly!

[Cha]

79. Mahalo, Bruce..

[TomCADem]

19. Susan Sarandon: Thanks To Trump The populace is 'awake'

Susan also talks about the silver lining.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/16/susan-sarandon-donald-trump-populist/

Echoing her thoughts on the state of the U.S. prior to the election, Susan Sarandon made an appearance on MSNBC’s All in with Chris Hayes, and again found a silver lining in the chaos, saying that “what we have now is a populace that is awake.”

Sarandon made similar comments during a November appearance on CNN, saying, “The good news, if you want some good news, is that everybody’s so frustrated that at least we’re awake,” and continued the thought during her interview with Hayes.

“I absolutely feel that analyzing and spending time and energy talking about blaming people or who made mistakes or what should have happened is really wasting your time and energy, because what we have now is a populace that is awake,” she said. “This has been going on for a long time. So now he’s clumsy and so bad at putting things through, that everybody’s awake, and saying, ‘Oh my God, what’s happening to the EPA?'”

Sarandon, who voted for Jill Stein but was a vocal Bernie Sanders supporter, last visited Hayes in March 2016, when she claimed that “some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately” should he win the election.

[oasis]

21. Is that the comic bookstore owner, whathisname in the white shirt?

[Me.]

23. Am I Living In An Alternate Universe?

I missed his inauguration and hey, how was the inaugural parade? Now I find I haven't seen any shots/pics of him in the oval or meeting other leaders and holding state dinners. Is President BS responsible for the crisis at the border when I thought it was Comrade Trump, did he give a huge tax cut for the billionaires he claims to hate? Oh, and how did Jane re-do the WH?

I must be unconscious, I 've apparently missed a lot. And, is the FBI investigation about Jane?

[kstewart33]

24. Right now, what Bernie says is not the point.

Far more important tasks are at hand.

[kimbutgar]

30. Bernie is yesterday

We need a new visionary tbat is in the Democratic Party.

[Hoyt]

33. Well, his supporters got their tariffs, reneging on trade agreements, immigration control, and

for the really hardcore, a chance to watch it burn. The healthcare plan he criticized as totally inadequate is all but gone too. There are other things he and supporters pushed that were good, but will be forever before they are considered again.

It appears incrementalism would have worked better.

[JCanete]

69. Many of us...and there are Clinton supporters in that mix here on this board , who did not like the

TPP. As to the nonsense about immigration control and us wanting these tariffs as implemented, utterly unfounded. Of course. This is not, I guarantee you, what most Sanders supporters wanted, given that most Sanders supporters voted for Clinton. But who gives a shit about facts right?

[Hoyt]

74. Most Sanders supporters voting for Clinton, didn't cost us the election -- just a few thousand did.

Not mention the damage done during the primaries. Thems the facts.

[cannabis_flower]

80. What cost us the election was...

not Bernie Sanders or people who didn't vote for Hillary or people who didn't vote. What cost us the election was Russion ratf*cking and Republican cheating.

[Hoyt]

83. I don't think so. No one voted for trump based upon Russian lies, unless they were leaning that way

already. I think we give too much "credit" to Russians. It was clear to anyone who looked what trump was like.

[JCanete]

116. hey, we agree on something here. ON the other hand, our media has been doing a powerful

job of misinforming the public for decades now.

[JCanete]

114. What damage. If Sanders supporters came out in the same ratio for Clinton that Clinton supporters

came out for Obama, then at least working with the fact we have, it appears that it wasn't those who most found Sander's message appealing who ended up not voting for Clinton. They came out. They came out in the same numbers that people have in the past after a hotly contested primary. Thems the facts. To try to turn this into "some sanders supporters cost us the election" while ignoring the far bigger truth, your statement is burgeoning on scapegoating.

As for who those voters were, who didnt' vote for Clinton, some were unquestionably from the far left, some very well might have been from the independent center, likely soured on Clinton for the massive amount of untrue rhetoric about the Clintons that has gotten play in right-wing media over the years. If he pulled those voters, and then they strayed back away the democratic party in the GE, well that should be no surprise and is not on Sanders.

[Demsrule86]

84. I disliked the TPP...and I supported Clinton...I also believe in fair trade, but Trumps mess will

hurt the country and combined with huge spending that is geared to the top 1% which does not stimulate the economy bring about a recession/depression. If Sen. Sanders thinks this is winning...I have no idea what to say.

[lunasun]

82. You have a good point there .

[betsuni]

34. Dammit, did I miss the revolution? Somebody wake me up next time.

[Bleacher Creature]

36. I couldn't be more over Bernie. We need a real Democrat in that seat.

What a repulsive thing to say.

[OhioBlue]

42. Can we please just put a hold on the circular firing squad?

I mean I know as Dems we like to kick our own asses but is today really the day to take some words found on Twitter that were taken out of context by Senator Sanders and get pissed off about?

Here is what I am pissed off about today:

The dismantling of unions that has gone on for decades and just got a super boost from asshole faction of the SC

Asshole faction of SC that justified Trumhole's Muslim ban. They can call it a travel ban and talk in bull shit circles but we all know it is meant as a Muslim ban and a gift to his racist base looking for scapegoats and those assholes on the SC know it too.

Kennedy the f-ing quitter. He was the small sliver of support hanging in the balance for reproductive rights. It won't stop with abortion. There will be States that outlaw forms of birth control too. The pill prevents a fertilized egg from implanting. There are already Right to life organizations that oppose the pill.

McConnell the lying, treasonous bastard. This smarmy creep sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.

Trump the lying, treasonous, Dictator wanna be bastard that gaslights us daily, strips protections away from DACA recipients, kidnaps children and holds them hostage for his stupid fucking wall that he told his followers Mexico would pay for - believe him. Assholes.

Republican cowards in the House and Senate.

Paul F-ing Ryan who preached balanced budget and just blew the deficit out of the water, still looking to add billions and billions of spending for the stupid f-in wall and ag subsidies because of Trumps ignorant trade policies. Oh - and he wants to take away Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and any other help for survival that anyone poor, elderly, disabled or of modest means may receive.

Trump supporters that have him anywhere between 37-47 percent approval. If they weren't so ignorant and hate filled, Congress wouldn't be afraid to stand up to Trump and his Russia loving cabal.

[fallout87]

43. In many ways huh?

Name one.

Name one way that we "won" the election.

[comradebillyboy]

61. There won't be an incumbent Democrat in the White House

so Bernie can run again in 2020.

[Demsrule86]

85. That is his version of winning?

[MFM008]

45. Sanders

[dalton99a]

46. Democrats have no business defending the abomination or giving it praise

I don't care what it is. Just don't

[greatauntoftriplets]

49. Oy.

[democratisphere]

60. Bernie is the singular reason drumpf resides in the WH.

Let's not make the same mistake twice!

[JCanete]

68. holy fuck...people won't let this absolutely unfounded line of bullshit lie. Why are you spouting

this when you have absolutely no evidence to support your claim?

[Adrahil]

63. What a maroon! NT

[JCanete]

67. And its the same thing Maher said when he interviewed him, the point being that

there was a hopefully, significant impact on politics made that will shape the future democratic frontrunners positions. I think we're seeing that. I think that when Sanders got into the race he expected far far less success than he achieved, so I doubt very much his driving goal out the gate was to actually win the primary. That was a very very very longshot given the discrepancy in name recognition and initial funding. So far out-achieving his initial intent to pull the party to the left is something worth touting.


AND...obviously that's what he means, though you can attempt to make it about how lost in the wilderness he is regarding the actual facts. That's a ridiculous way to interpret his words.

[Cha]

72. BS is wrong.. I'd give anything to NOT have trump Rigged in..

And, the fucking Disasters he's Wrecking on People, our Country and our Planet..

Hillary Warned US..

Link to tweet

I don't care what you say about "ridiculous".. the havoc that trump is unloading on the world is not worth BS patting himself on the back.

[JCanete]

73. Well look, I agree with you that if Sanders is talking about the overall results of not just his

primary showing and the path forward for democrats, but the actual whole of the GE results(which I see no evidence for putting at all at Sanders feet), then it takes some pretty rose colored glasses to make the point that the nation as a whole is on the right trajectory. I can appreciate a positive pep-talk, but that is a little hard for me to buy into at this moment. I didn't think that's what he was saying there though.

[Demsrule86]

86. Yeah...and losing the courts for a generation makes this so worthwhile...not

Stop for a minute if a Democrat had said such a thing given what has happened recently, you would be appalled...we are not in better shape for having lost 16. There is no silver lining ...we have years of a right wing court to deal with and as the mother of a gay child I fear for her safety...Recriminalizing homosexualaity has always been on the rights agenda. Also, kiss medicare for all goodbye. The court will find a reason that it is unconstitutional. Bernie's agenda which I heard about in every speech is DOA now-the courts will make sure of that...so how can he view this as 'winning'? I bitterly resent Sen. Sanders remarks. I have tried to be fair and open minded. but I have to say, I can't stand him at this moment, the indifference towards the suffering Trump has caused is just appalling and the idea that this nightmare is somehow politically advantageous for us is completely false.

[Demsrule86]

87. Pulling the party to te left was not worth losing the courts for a generation...it just wasn't.

The party may be left, but the country is center left at best...how is that going to work out. I see no winning here only a person doubling down on the mistakes made in 16.

[JCanete]

111. except that you cannot point to any evidencde that doing so lost us the election. Its frustrating

that the crux of your argument depends on a made-up consequence of Sanders running.

[Demsrule86]

112. We all have our opinions on this...but the idea that somehow this is a silver lining...I don't

thinks so...losing the courts is the worst possible thing that could happen...the worst. It will affect everything...no single payer, maybe no health care of any kind. Even if we get Congress and the presidency...everything we do will be struck down...Roe V Wade gone...tell my Gay daughter that there is any sort of good that came out of this shit show election.

[JCanete]

115. well overall it might be a silver lining, but i"m as cynical as you are here, but I"m not sure that

is what our democrats and representatives should be out there saying. "Abandon hope...all is lost." Have a nice ring to it to you?

[Demsrule86]

113. Sanders said that we really won in 16. I didn't make that up...his words. Sorry I don't think we

won anything worthwhile. With babies sitting cages as we speak , I am appalled that he would say that.

[NCTraveler]

75. This is how he has been such a legislative powerhouse. nt

[mac56]

94. Give it a rest.

You're making a fool of yourself.

[dubyadiprecession]

105. Bernie will do anything to stick up for his...

Daughter-in-law!