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In reply to the discussion: If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didnt change votes, [View all]brooklynite
(94,520 posts)30. No, I'm content to try to address what ACTUALLY happened and not engage in fantasies...
Flipping votes already cast has been a go-to conspiracy theory without hard evidence or supporting accusations from anyone involved in the actual elections.
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If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didnt change votes, [View all]
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
OP
Since the FBI investigation uncovering the Russian 13 did not start until early 2016 and was not
Fred Sanders
Feb 2018
#28
Correct - which is why I jump in with a clarification every time this gets rehashed.
Ms. Toad
Feb 2018
#66
The are multiple KGB or FSB operations going on at once, many have been planned for decades
Eliot Rosewater
Feb 2018
#78
I understand your frustration ... but Voting Registration systems are 'connected'
mr_lebowski
Mar 2018
#128
there has been NO INVESTIGATION of this either, so it's not surprising nobody found anything. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#98
I wonder if they could have added registrations, and then somehow "voted" with those
Tess49
Feb 2018
#44
Exactly. The assertion that they hacked in the machines to do nothing is delusional.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#7
They didn't "hacked in the machines to do nothing"...THEY DIDN'T HACK THE MACHINES!
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#9
"That which can be asserted without evidence can be discounted without evidence"
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#114
i'm not saying they DID hack the machines, only that it is very likely, given what we know about
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#116
Computerized voting/tabulation is non-transparent. Our votes cannot be guaranteed to be
diva77
Mar 2018
#124
I don't believe they hacked voting machines. Someone locally might have, although I think vote
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#8
They DID hack 8 states. Im watching the reporting on it right now. My state was one of them.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#10
They "hacked" registration systems poking around, but I've not seen any evidence they changed votes.
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#11
You mean like they did in 2000!?!? Please with this bullshit line of thinking
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#73
Plenty, in 2000 Florida voters were purged and we didn't know till after the election
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#87
"news organizations" haven't dug into those states like they did in Florida. Again
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#91
I didn't know about the FL purge until nearly a year after the 2k election when it was confirmed
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#97
Yes, but that's not "hacking votes" as plenty of folks here bluntly assert...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#19
That's what I think. Blaming our loss on vote changing just sets us up to lose again. We do need
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#22
So you are content to figure that when the Russians got into the registration files.....
ollie10
Feb 2018
#25
No, I'm content to try to address what ACTUALLY happened and not engage in fantasies...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#30
What actually happened is that the Russians got into the registration files of several states
ollie10
Feb 2018
#45
+1, the "they didn't do anything that affected the election" line of thinkign is assinine
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#74
And, then, you would have had people turned away from polls. Where I live, the only people turned
Hoyt
Feb 2018
#21
But you can delete voter info, or make it so some Dems can only vote with povisional ballots when...
brush
Feb 2018
#48
My point was trump got just enough votes to swing those states. Seems pretty well calculated...
brush
Feb 2018
#68
It says in "at least" once case, leaving the possibility open that there were other cases
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#47
can't disagree. politicians are "team players," if they're anything. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#100
Maybe because they could fool us better by "merely" changing the registrations of some.
pnwmom
Feb 2018
#31
Recall right after the election, Trump sent his minions to key states to thwart any effort
Chakaconcarne
Feb 2018
#32
"If you believe Russia hacked our voting machines but didn't change votes ....
LenaBaby61
Feb 2018
#33
Look at the numbers out of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin...I don't know there will ever be
Demsrule86
Feb 2018
#65
Right, white working class voters in the rust belt NEVER vote Republican...
brooklynite
Feb 2018
#79
All those places across the country where the vote did not match the exit polls is a real clue.
Botany
Feb 2018
#49
hate to break it to you, but exit polls USED to be accurate; something changed in 2000. go figure.
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#101
Of COURSE that's what happened. And NOW...the fed has a list of reg. voters to give them...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2018
#60
Ever since HAVA ... Help America Vote Act* .... we have seen a red state shift in the vote even ...
Botany
Feb 2018
#80
I don't know about McConnell's win but Scott Walker's "win" in the recall race smelled really bad.
Botany
Feb 2018
#93
I agree, it doesn't make sense Russian hackers didn't do the one most effective thing - change votes
50 Shades Of Blue
Feb 2018
#76
+1, or even more effective is to purge voters like was done in Florida 2000. GOP is greasy
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#88
So after all that's come out in regards to what Russia did with DNC emails and social
uponit7771
Feb 2018
#89
This is why they have to fight the notion that the election was stolen...because they can't blame
Demsrule86
Feb 2018
#106
do you recall any forensic examination of machines, hard/software, or comprehensive, state-wide hand
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2018
#113
I dont believe it either. Who the hell thinks Russia or trump are trustworthy.
onecaliberal
Feb 2018
#120