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December 7, 2020

I guess Blue Lives Matter unless they are trying to enforce Covid restrictions

I can only imagine how many bullets would have been fired if a black man did this

Bar Owner Hailed by Fox News Allegedly Drives Into NY Deputy Trying to Arrest Him Over COVID Violations

The Staten Island "autonomous zone" bar owner previously praised by Fox News was taken into police custody on Sunday after violating COVID-19 restrictions again.

The co-owner of Mac's Public House, Danny Presti, was arrested for reopening the bar and then allegedly hitting a sheriff's deputy with his while fleeing the scene.
The New York City Sheriff's Office said deputies tried to take Presti into custody after observing customers entering the bar through an empty commercial space next door, according to NBC New York. The bar had recently been ordered closed and lost its liquor license over breaking COVID rules.
The Sheriff's Office said that, upon deputies identifying themselves, Presti fled the bar on foot, reached his car, drove into one of the officers and then continued driving with the injured deputy hanging onto the hood of the car.

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Mac's Public House was the site of a large protest earlier this week after the bar was shut down and Presti was arrested for ignoring orders from the sheriff's department to stop serving customers. Presti claimed the bar was an "Autonomous Zone." Supporters of the far-right Proud Boys group were among the hundreds in attendance.

The bar, which is within an area of southern Staten Island with rising COVID-19 cases, was on Wednesday praised by Fox News' talk show The Five, which compared its autonomous zone to the one that came about during summer protests in Seattle: "One [autonomous zone] was pro-business, one was anti-police, but they get treated completely different... [In Seattle], people got shot. Here, people just took a few shots. But all of the sudden, the guy's arrested for that? It's sick."
(How ironic, less than a week later, this guy runs over a cop)

][link:https://www.newsweek.com/bar-owner-hailed-fox-news-drives-ny-deputy-trying-arrest-him-over-covid-violations-1552702|
December 7, 2020

I'm not going to be lectured- She's going for the racists with that one -

Among all the robotic things she's said, she keeps repeating that. I'm not going to be lectured by someone that.........

Yeah- As a white woman - I'm not going to be lectured by a black .--------

December 6, 2020

Am I right, that this is the first time trump has talked about Covid 19 since the election?

He has not said anything about all the Americans who have died or have been infected since the election.
Rudy is the first person he has acknowledged with Covid 19 and wished well. Am I right?

December 6, 2020

trump alluded to black people taking land, in reality the law allows black land to be stolen

This is a lot of information. But its important

The Gullah-Geechee have owned land since the 1800s. One terrible law allows their land to be stolen

Several decades ago, my parents took a timeshare tour on Hilton Head Island in South Carolina. The island was in the early stages of being transformed into a resort destination. This metamorphosis was the brainchild of real estate developer Charles Fraser, who, in the 1950s, envisioned turning the sparsely populated, rural island into an ultra-extravagant paradise. Luxury resorts and modern retirement communities—almost all with “plantation” in their names—soon overtook the island. Trendy restaurants and upscale boutiques suddenly dotted the landscape, while private yachts constantly cruised the waterways.
Although the barrier island is very small—you could run around the whole thing in a 12-mile loop—developers somehow managed to squeeze 26 18-hole golf courses onto it. Today, Hilton Head Island is one of the top vacation destinations in the United States.
But it wasn’t always this way. Hilton Head is one of several formerly Black-owned islands, whose transformation came at a heavy, painful cost for decades—all thanks to a shady legal practice that one U.S. attorney describes as “the worst problem you’ve never heard of.” This loophole has robbed millions of acres from Black Americans in multiple Southern states over the past century. Worst of all, it’s still happening—and getting worse.

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The Gullah-Geechee people were also able to do something truly remarkable for Black Americans during that time period: They purchased their own land. Using what might be called “crowdfunding” today, the community at large contributed what they had, all so that its members could own the land beneath their feet. As a result, the Gullah-Geechee were the first African Americans in North America to own a large amount of land en masse.

Gullah-Geechee land was passed down to their descendants over generations. Unfortunately, this was done largely without legal documentation. There were several reasons for this, with one large factor being that Black Americans were not afforded access to legal resources. The few who did were not treated fairly by the all-white Southern court system.

Land handed down to a property owner’s children without legal documentation is referred to as “heirs property.” Without a clear title or will, heirs don’t technically hold the land, but do inherit an interest—like owning stock in a company. This ownership system is common in the Gullah-Geechee corridor, but can also be found in other impoverished regions throughout the South, such as on certain Native American tribal lands and in Appalachia.
][link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/1/1960612/-The-Gullah-Geechee-have-owned-land-since-the-1800s-One-terrible-law-allows-their-land-to-be-stolen|

If this ain't about some bullshit

Native islanders won't have to move out as new Hilton Head townhouses rise. Here's why

A townhouse community proposed for the north end of Hilton Head Island on a piece of heirs' property will allow native islanders already living there to stay, according to documents submitted to the Town of Hilton Head Island.
The project, preliminarily named "Squire Pope Village," will have about 42 homes for purchase, according to the project's developer, James Moore with the Moore Realty Group, Inc.

Two acres will be set aside near Indian Pipe Lane for the eight mobile homes of the families who currently live there, according to those documents.
"What we’ve tried to do is accommodate the residents who are living here," Moore said during Monday's pre-application meeting. "There’s family heritage on the land."
The Greens are one of the native families living on the property. Shani Green said her family has been on the land since the early 1900s.

"We want to preserve our heritage and remain on the land that we were born and raised on," Green said. "That's all the Green family knows. So we wanted to stay on the property."

Heirs' property is land co-owned by many people and was likely purchased by freed slaves, according to the Center for Heirs' Property in Charleston. At some point, the land was either passed down without a written will or without being probated, according to the center.

Years ago, an out of state relative of one of the families who lives on the property decided to sell, Green said.

Through a quiet title action — a judicial process to determine who has interest in the property — 188 heirs were identified, according to Green and Maria Parker, a real estate attorney working with the Green family.


( I think this is where developers are taking advantage - The out state relative may not even know about the property. They have never lived there. They have no stake in the community. So a developer contacts them and says, hey you own land worth X amount of dollars would you like to sell it? )
[link:https://www.islandpacket.com/news/business/real-estate-news/article206814779.html#storylink=cpy|

You can hear the greed dripping in this developer -
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Their Family Bought Land One Generation After Slavery.The Reels Brothers Spent Eight Years in Jail for Refusing to Leave It.
[link:https://features.propublica.org/black-land-loss/heirs-property-rights-why-black-families-lose-land-south/|
December 5, 2020

The 2nd on Netflix movie about gun control. - Were they trying to say something about the left ?

SPOILER ALERT!!

I watched this on Netflix last night and was really creeped out by it. I felt like this was subtle or not so subtle messaging about left leaning folks that want gun control. I felt like it fed the notion of " Radicals on the Left, Deep State" bullcrap. Somebody talk me down.
Or was this just Hollywood imagination as usual? It is in the top ten watched on Netflix, however its not getting good reviews. The acting is awful too. My review though is that there is some propaganda here about people that want gun control.

Premise of the movie:
The 2nd follows secret-service agent, Vic Davis, on his way to pick up his estranged son, Sean, from his college campus when he finds himself in the middle of a high-stakes terrorist operation. Yikes. His son's friend Erin Walton (the daughter of a Supreme Court Justice) is the target, and this armed gang will stop at nothing to kidnap her and use her as leverage for a pending landmark legal case.
[link:https://www.purewow.com/entertainment/the-2nd-ryan-phillippe-netflix|

A Secret Service agent must save his son and the daughter of a Supreme Court justice from armed terrorists.

This movie has gotten a lot of bad reviews. Panned as a really bad Die Hard wannabe.

My problem with the movie is its all good and well until you realize that the terrorists were trying to force the hand of the Supreme Court to get rid of the 2nd amendment. They do not come right out and say that. However, when the mastermind of the plot - The Director of The CIA - talks about kids killed in school and how sometimes you have to sacrifice a few to save many, it becomes clear which way they want the court to decide. When its found that he's the mastermind of the plot, he says he's the tip of the spear" - My point again about - furthering that deep state crap.

It just felt like propaganda turned into a movie. The left want to take away the 2nd amendment, they want to take away your guns, the deep state. Radicals, they are coming for you.

Somebody talk me down. Am I reading too much into this? Was this just Hollywood being Hollywood.

December 2, 2020

How William Cooper and his book 'Behold a Pale Horse' planted seeds of QAnon conspiracy theory

I had never heard of this guy or this book before tonight. So, I decided to try the online dating thing again. One guy that messaged me, in his profile, it lists Behold a Pale Horse as the book he's currently reading. So out of curiosity, I googled it. Yeah, uhm, its a no. Maybe he's reading this book for research purposes, but I am not going to try to find out. He can keep all that conspiracy bullcrap to himself.


EAGAR, Ariz. — When authorities killed William Cooper in a burst of gunfire outside his hilltop home in eastern Arizona, he was an author and radio host who had attracted a rabid following among UFO buffs, prisoners and the militia movement
For them, his book, “Behold a Pale Horse,” and nightly shortwave radio show lifted the veil on how the world actually works.
Through his death in 2001, Cooper’s legacy was cemented. He was seen as a sage and legend. His book would become a defining text for conspiracy-minded people. What might have otherwise been seen as an amateurish hodgepodge of ideas earned gravitas once its author was gunned down.


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That Cooper would die in a shootout with authorities seemed fated. And, in his book, he suggested it was an honorable way to die
“I believe that any man without principles that he is ready and willing to die for at any given moment is already dead and is of no use or consequence whatsoever,” Cooper wrote in the creed that began his book.

The internet was not yet ubiquitous in the mid-1980s when Cooper started spilling what he said was clandestine information from top secret documents he read as a member of a naval intelligence unit.

Cooper used not only his book, but also in-person lectures, mail-order cassette tapes and a show on shortwave radio to share his understanding of a master plan to destroy the world.

Even though many have never heard of Cooper, his dark, conspiratorial thinking has endured and been amplified. He was a forerunner to the conspiracy theorists of today such as Alex Jones — with whom Cooper feuded.

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The book has also attracted followers of the conspiracy theory known as QAnon, which falsely casts Democrats as doing the bidding of globalists in order to shield their perversions, including devouring babies for their nourishing blood.

[link:https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/10/09/behold-pale-horse-how-william-cooper-planted-seeds-qanon-theory/5916328002/|
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[link:https://newrepublic.com/article/150922/pioneer-paranoia|
November 29, 2020

"We Didn't Have a Ground Game" A Democratic congresswoman on why she lost her seat

“We Didn’t Have a Ground Game”
A Democratic congresswoman on why she lost her seat

Shalala’s seat had been reliably Republican for years before she won it, but plenty of people assumed she was safe in 2020. Shalala herself felt a little differently. “I felt vulnerable, very vulnerable, because it was a presidential year, and Trump was going to do very well in my district,” she said. “There was going to be a huge Republican turnout. They turned out 85 percent of their voters, and Democrats turned out only 75 percent of their voters. And that made the difference.” On Tuesday’s episode of What Next, I spoke with Shalala about her loss and what Democrats can learn from it. Our conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Mary Harris: Your seat was supposed to be relatively safe.

Donna Shalala: Yeah, I know, but I didn’t trust the polls because I could feel that there was going to be a real challenge in my district. I saw the attack ads, but I also heard from people as I walk through Little Havana, for example. I was called communist once in the primary, but now it became a consistent theme.

What do you make of the fact that we’re a few weeks out from the election and we seem to have this split ticket situation where Joe Biden won, but down ballot, a number of representatives and people, even at the state level, did not gain ground when that was the argument for Joe Biden to be top of the ticket a few months back.

I think that if we had run against a reasonable Republican, we would have gotten beaten. Donald Trump so turned off people that were Republicans that they voted for Joe Biden. But they then straight-party voted after that. And the turnout by Republicans cut both ways. It helped Joe Biden with suburban women, for example, and others that were just turned off by Trump, but it didn’t help the down ballot.

“Joe Biden is going to need a two-year strategy or we’re going to lose the House of Representatives.”

— Rep. Donna Shalala
Republicans registered a huge number of voters, probably a quarter of a million voters. In the last 60 days, they registered 5,000 in my district alone. Even though people had poured millions into Florida, we just never got the kind of sophisticated ground game that they put together. So we learned a lot of the process. We simply have a lot of work to do.

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No, it was a completely different set of issues because the president had mismanaged COVID.Our economy, when I ran before, was in much better shape. It was a disaster now, because I represent a tourist area. I represent the cruise lines, the hotels on Miami Beach, the restaurants. It was a completely different race in terms of issues.

What did that mean when you went out and spoke to people? Did you feel like those issues were resonating with the voters?

I felt like the governor and the president’s mismanagement of COVID was biting. But I also felt the pressure on the economy because once people ran out of their unemployment and their savings, they just wanted the economy open at any cost.

[link:https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/donna-shalala-house-democrat-defeated-what-happened.html|



I don't live in her district. I live in SWFL. A beach town, lots of small businesses that depend on tourism, weekenders, vacationers. There was a lot of griping about opening the economy. I'm sure people voted with that in mind.
November 29, 2020

'Why the GOP is so rattled by the Rev. Warnock's faith-based Georgia Senate campaign'

Warnock’s campaign, unlike that of many Democrats in recent years, hasn’t shied away from religious appeals to voters and making the election about moral reality. This even applies to the issues that Democrats are most often averse to discuss through a religious frame. “I’m a pro-choice pastor, and I believe that a hospital room is way too small for a woman, her doctor, and the United States government,” Warnock tweeted recently. He’s also pledged to support the Equality Act, which would amend existing civil rights law — including the Civil Rights Act of 1964 championed by King — to explicitly include sexual orientation and gender identity as protected characteristics.

Warnock isn’t alone. Many progressives today are rooting their political appeals in their religious convictions at levels that haven’t been seen since King and the Civil Rights Movement. “The Squad” in the House of Representatives have all embraced religious appeals. Religion News Service even described them as “the new version of the God Squad.” Earlier this year, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gave a passionate defense of LGBTQ rights rooted in her faith during a congressional hearing: “I feel as though if Christ himself walked through these doors and said what he said thousands of years ago, that we should love our neighbor and our enemy, that we should welcome the stranger, fight for the least of us … he would be maligned as a radical and rejected from these doors.”
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While the interplay of religion and politics is often hard to calculate, we know that 71% of both Democrats and Independents identify with a religious tradition. Leaving God talk to the GOP has left religious people with only one voice in their ears, which even Hillary Clinton lamented after the 2016 election.

Republicans clearly recognize the strength of the religious appeal. That’s why they’re attacking Warnock’s faith. It’s a classic “attack the strength” political approach, mastered by operative Karl Rove, who is working for the GOP in the Georgia senate runoffs.

Warnock’s opponent Kelly Loeffler and the GOP have released a series of sermon snippets that attempt to paint the successor to King in the worst light possible. One was an attempt to portray Warnock as anti-military. But his point, “America, nobody can serve God and the military,” comes straight from the Gospel of Matthew. Another was portrayed as divisive even though the idea that “America needs to repent for its worship of whiteness” reflects the growing awareness in American churches of the need to confront White supremacy.

The attacks on a prominent Black pastor who champions social justice aren’t surprising. “Martin Luther King Jr, who was lauded and applauded right now, in his last years, was one of the most hated men in this country,” the Rev. Dr. Freddie Haynes, senior pastor of Friendship West Baptist Church in Dallas, told Politico.
[link:https://www.theatlantavoice.com/articles/op-ed-why-the-gop-is-so-rattled-by-rev-warnocks-faith-based-georgia-senate-campaign/|

November 27, 2020

It is God's will, God uses flawed people- The evangelical meltdown over Trump loss is contradicting

what they have said in the past about their reasons for supporting Trump. Great analysis at the end of the video clips re: God's omnipotence. You can't have it both ways. You said Trump's presidency was God's will. Did God not exercise his will in this election?
You said God uses flawed people to convey his message, that was the reasoning for getting behind trump. If that's the case, since you see Biden as flawed. So wouldn't the same hold true? God using another flawed person to convey his message?

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