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And he did oppose the corporations and big money overturning an environmental law in CA in 2010.

The rest he did was may have been useless, but bless his heart, he was in over his head. Here:

Schwarzenegger defends climate law, slams Texans

Schwarzenegger, speaking before several hundred people at the Commonwealth Club in Santa Clara, said the proponents of Prop. 23 are attempting to subvert the democratic process using scare tactics. He likened the campaign to a shell game hiding what he said was the real purpose: "self-serving greed."

"They are creating a shell argument that they are doing this to protect jobs," the governor said. "Does anybody really believe they are doing this out of the goodness of their black oil hearts - spending millions and millions of dollars to save jobs?"

Schwarzenegger said AB32, which he signed into law in 2006, will create jobs by allowing California to establish a "green economy" featuring solar energy, hydrogen power, bio-energy and a renewable electricity standard that will provide "the seed money for the world's energy revolution."


I find it interesting the video embedded the anti-Koch ad, calling for people to petition the EPA to support Obama's anti-pollution measures.

Sierra Club link about the Koch brothers vs the EPA on the video. More important than Arnold...


The EPA is considering historic new standards for air pollution, but billionaires like the Koch brothers are spending big money on D.C. lobbyists to block these reforms.

These new standards, supported by President Obama, would place limits on industrial carbon pollution from power plants. But the Koch brothers and their billionaire buddies are trying to block these vital new public health safeguards in order to keep dumping unlimited amounts of industrial carbon pollution into our air.


President Obama & the EPA need you to voice your support for new standards. Enacting these standards would help level the playing field for clean energy, and hold industrial polluters accountable. Show big polluters that their multi-million dollar lobbying campaign can't buy them the right to pollute our air.

The EPA is accepting public comments before deciding whether to close the loopholes that allow companies to pollute the air we breathe.

This is your chance to make your voice heard.

You can sign on to the statement below, or leave your own comment, by filling out the following form. The Sierra Club will deliver your message to the EPA.


Glad you enjoyed the rant. I thought maybe you though I was nuts. I admit to the possibilty, so...

According to Nora Ephron, I'm not nuts. Yet.

Insane people are always sure they're just fine. It's only the sane people who are willing to admit they're crazy.

David Koch is one of the delegates from NY state and will be at the convention. Masks coming off?


Even if he doesn't run for POTUS, as it's beneath him most likely in his POV, he's going to be on hand and not as an ordinary delegate, no doubt. He's going to be overseeing his puppets, Paul Ryan and Mittens.


He's run for POTUS before on the Libertarian Party ticket, which his family has been a part of and failed to get a direct win. The Libertarian Party is trying to get the GOP off the ballot in Washington state for some obscure reason, denying the GOP, or rather, the Tea Party voters.

But the Tea Party is their creation, too. There is nowhere for the GOP voter to turn that is not part of the Koch family echo box. They've founded and bankrolled the John Birch Society, who are the Patriot, Soveriegn Citizen and Infowars idols. Anti-establishment in name only.

Ron Paul also ran for POTUS on the Libertarian ticket, and his followers still think these people who are trying to destroy this country didn't pull that puppet's strings, for some reason. They have been deluded by conspiracy media as alternative to those awful 'statist, progressive, liberal, gun grabbing, baby killing Demon-Rats.'

Now Koch has all his underlings in one place, and with the money he's donated to the GOP to defeat Obama, he may call in his markers in the public eye at last. ALEC is in trouble, but why not show the real face of these front organizations, like the Cato Institute, Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperty?

The Koch brothers have been involved in the installation of puppets in several states, such as Scott Walker, Rick Scott and Paul Ryan, just to name a few. Koch corporations are opening offices next door to legislatures and lobbying to stop public infrastructure so that they can take it over as they are doing with bridges, roads and water resources.

This is one thing I will not let die, even if Thom never recovers fully from his recent surgery and mishap, keeping him off the air:


Here are his words, the transcipt posted here:

Thom Hartmann: Conservative Millennials, Boomers & Libertarians all being Conned

Multigenerational political influence by a very narrow special interest group is rare, but we're seeing it played out right now in front of us. A billionaire family - the Kochs - have gone from influencing my father's generation, to my generation, to my kids' generation - and very few Americans realize it. Daddy Koch - Fred - made his first millions palling around with Joe Stalin in the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s. As the fascists rose to power in Europe in the 1930s, he was an enthusiastic supporter of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, who invented the word "fascist," meaning essentially the takeover of democratic governments by big business interests. Mussolini went so far as to dissolve the Italian parliament, and replace elected politicians with representatives of each district's largest corporations. Fred Koch and Mussolini both particularly hated the trade unionists and their sometimes allies, the communists. So after Mussolini, along with his ally Hitler, lost World War II against America, Fred Koch brought the anti-communist pro-business-running-goverment - what some would call "facist" - torch to America big time, helping start the John Birch Society.

Two of their biggest efforts are pretty well known. After the Supreme Court ruled, in 1954, in the Brown versus Board of Education case, that segregation in schools was unconstitutional, the John Birch Society put up billboards all across America calling for the impeachment of the Chief Justice of the Court, Earl Warren. Daddy Fred Koch was very concerned about the integration of our schools - in fact, he wrote, "The colored man looms large in the Communist plan to take over America." With JFK's election, Fred Koch's John Birch Society went off again - this time against JFK. Using rhetoric not that different from the "secret Muslim" plots the Tea Party promotes about Obama, in a 1963 speech Fred said that " infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the President is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.”

When JFK was scheduled to come to Dallas that year, the JBS distributed flyers saying, "Wanted, for Treason" all around the town two days before his arrival. On the day JFK was assassinated, large ads ran in the Dallas newspapers attacking Kennedy as being soft on Castro, among other things. That was my dad's generation. Daddy Koch died, and his sons Charles and David took over the family business of promoting the business and billionaire takeover of our American government.

They're doing it with a two-pronged attack. For people over forty, they're funding the Tea Party through a variety of groups, most notably Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks. And for people under forty, they're funding Libertarian think tanks, like the Charles Koch Foundation (which was renamed as the Cato Institute), and the Reason Foundation, where David Koch is a trustee, which happily embraces a new generation of young people with the idea that "freedom" means the "freedom" to buy politicians and the "freedom" to pollute. For the young people, of course, the Libertarians throw in the "freedom" to smoke dope and hire a hooker, but those are just bones being cynically tossed to young potheads and young protoge's of Dick Morris.

But the Koch's have been inside the Libertarian movement from its beginning - 32 years ago this year, David Koch was the Libertarian Party's official candidate for Vice President of the United States. It's really pretty incredible, but it's all true. The main agenda of the Koch's John Birch Society was to enhance the power and control of our government by big business and billionaires, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Vietnam War. The main agenda of the Koch's Tea Party is to get millionaires elected to Congress and have them cut taxes and regulations for Koch Industries and other polluting corporations, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Iraq War.

And the main agenda of the Koch's Libertarians - again, funded and trained by the Koch Brothers - is to keep intact the power of big money over our government, cut taxes and regulations on billionaires and polluting industries, while fighting organized labor and people like me who are protesting the corporate takeover of the United States of America. Three generations of Americans, all duped by the same billionaire family. Three generations buying into the idea that "what's best for industry and billionaires is best for America" - and that government is our "enemy" rather than something that our nation's founders fought and died to create for all of "We The People" And, increasingly, it's not just the Koch family. The Walton family - whose combined wealth is greater than 40 percent of all Americans - funded a covert campaign to rename the estate tax as the "death tax" and lobbied so hard they got the estate tax eliminated entirely in 2010.

Senator Bernie Sanders pointed out yesterday that - so far - we know of 26 billionaires - worth over $146 billion - who have already "invested" or committed to invest over $561 million dollars in this election cycle - most of it to defeat Democrats who want to raise their taxes. The good news is that young people are waking up and realizing that the Libertarian hustle the billionaires are feeding them is just that - a hustle. Just like Tea Partiers are waking up to their having been had by billionaires who want to privatize their Social Security. Hopefully, soon, America will regain its sanity and we'll go back to viewing cranky billionaires the way my Dad's generation did - as Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower did - when Eisenhower referred to their ilk as "small in number and stupid" They're not stupid any more, and if we really value American traditions, we really must push back on this kind of power and influence in American politics. Go to move to amend.org.


I consider them to be one of the greatest threats to our government there is. You can see they want it eliminated. Okay, I'm obsessed. I'll get over it sooner or later. And I understand the comical aspect of these old cranks wanting all of this power. But R-R in office will be no joke.

Unwise, considering the 'poison pill' was to be released upon his death or arrest by associates.

I just wish it would rid us of this gang that's been ruining the Earth since JFK, MLK and RFK were murdered. Some people say that was the end of everything, and Nixon despite what people try to say good about him, was a destroyer.

EFerrari's old sig line said, 'America - giving liberals the third finger for ___ years.' Writing '___' because I forgot the number.

The cause of social justice and love for all life took a back seat these criminals, and they've been working on the demise of the New Deal and setting up a fascist theocracy ever since.

'Gotta give the devil his due,' they have been successful. It's been a nightmare.

DIRECT LINK to contribute to the Dean Dozen below:


Possibly. Grover 'drown the government in a bathtub' Nordquist says this:

All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.

~ Grover Nordquist


Paul Ryan has been funded by the Koch brothers all along:

Romney's Veep Pick: Paul Ryan, Koch Ally and 'Right-Wing Social Engineer'


Ryan is one Koch-fueled candidate


That is the ALEC model, legislation written for private interests drawing on the public purse to privatize all functions that affect humans and the environment on a spread sheet of profits and losses for business. If this team gets in, your input into government, your vote, your rights and freedoms will be gone. There will be no need for a democratic government. That is the goal, often stated. There will be no one to stand in the way of the dismantling of the USA and installing a fascist economic system demanding that you fall into line. Your civil and property rights will be meaningless.

Enjoy the Apocalypse

Haha, made you look. No, it's Apocalyptica:

'Und Now Vee Vill Punish You.'

That's a party.

That's telling ya.

Now that's better.

And now, for something mellow.

Hope you enjoyed it.

As of August 3rd, here's where the Feds are:

Federal Judge Allows Military Groups To Intervene In Voting Rights Lawsuit |

U.S. District Judge Peter C. Economus granted a motion on Monday allowing 15 military groups to intervene in the Obama campaign’s early voting lawsuit, which seeks to restore the ability of all Ohio voters to vote in-person during the three day period leading up to election day.

While Ohio has allowed early voting through this period since 2005, the state legislature restricted early voting this year exclusively to members of the military and their families. Mitt Romney’s campaign falsely smeared the lawsuit, claiming that Obama is trying to take away voting rights rather than restore them. The Obama campaign supported the military groups’ request to intervene.


It's really the same case, disenfranchising military along with those in the state. They are going to let this group take the credit or make the case, and I'm guessing they will give them all the help they can to strike down the law. What do you think is going on?

Well, Newt had his Moon colony; they claim Obama's been to Mars; but no one ever asks Mittens.

He really won't speak about himself anymore, it seems, after having slipped on his bullying and Gordon Gecko moments.

If you ask him about his taxes, he lies or claims you're being mean to him. If you talk about his money hidden overseas, he lies or says it just shows how smart he is. If you mention his wife and the horse incidents, you're just jealous.

But no one, out of good taste, dares to bring up his religion. And you'll note he doesn't talk to the lowly press, he's doing a Nixon, Reagan and Bush on them.

The only time I can Mittens answering a question will be when or if he debates with Obama. But the POTUS has already cut back on the space program somewhat. And I've never heard Mitt the Twit mention space.

And he can say that Kolob is not a real place, but a spiritual symbol for when he's gonna rule the world.. OOPS, he won't say that. Nasty first amendment, if you ask him, he'll say you're bullying him. I don't think he'll get caught that way, and it might not be nice, anyway.

Not that he's nice, either..
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