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If Michael Flynn wants to withdraw his guilty plea, which he made in part to guarantee his spawn

AKA Michael Flynn Jr AKA the Republican Anwar al-Awlaki protection from prosecution...

Then shouldn't that part of the deal now be off the table as well?

The records also include FBI reports showing that Flynnís son Michael Jr. delivered information and data from the consulting firm to the firmís lawyers on several occasions as they were preparing foreign-agent filings that prosecutors say were untruthful. It is unclear from the documents whether Michael Flynn Jr. was familiar with the contents of the materials or was simply acting as a courier.

The younger Flynn was never charged, but Powell has argued that the decision by the retired general and Defense Intelligence Agency chief to plead guilty in 2017 was driven in part by concerns about his son being targeted by prosecutors.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/07/doj-michael-flynn-jail-six-months-095584

Needs to be said how conservatives are all for "law and order" until they are on the wrong end of it

Dinesh D'Souza
Michael Flynn
Roger Stone
Donald Trump
And more

They all love to preach about how we need "law and order", how they run on it... until they are on the business end of it.

Then law and order suddenly made a mistake or it was part of a conspiracy against them.

Honestly, this phrase, unless it's criticizing it or discussing this fact, it *should* be a dead horse trope.

Why isn't it?

Racist hit-and-run woman also has a history of getting breaks from Iowa's criminal justice system

She was charged with stabbing one boyfriend in the chest in 2017 and, months later, with threatening another with a butcher's knife. She allegedly told her ex-husband during a child custody dispute that she was going to kill him.

Despite accusations of violence and threats and her chronic drug use and mental health problems over the last three years, Nicole Marie Poole Franklin caught several breaks from Iowa's criminal justice system, court records show.

The 42-year-old unemployed white woman, who is also identified in some court and police documents at Nicole Marie Poole, was allowed to stay out of prison and avoid treatment before allegedly hitting a Latino girl and a black boy with her car on Dec. 9.

She was arrested and charged with a hate crime in connection with a disturbance later that same day at a West Des Moines gas station where witnesses told police she called an employee and customers racial epithets.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2019/12/27/iowa-hit-and-runs-hate-crime-suspect-got-breaks-after-earlier-arrests/2758877001/

If she was black, she'd be a "thug". If she was Muslim, she'd be a "terrorist". If she was Hispanic, she'd be "MS-13". But because she is who she is, she "deserved some breaks" instead. She wasn't alone when she drove that car into those kids, everyone who is OK with this racial double standard drove with her.

Remember that Fox News graphic that "compared" Steve Bannon to Baghdadi?

Looks like there's something based off of it, and conservatives won't be happy about it.

A long time ago, many years ago in fact, I was the "hit" in a hit and run

It hurt physically, sure, but what really left a scar was that I was considered that much of a "nothing" in someone else's eyes that they could just strike me with their car and keep going to do something that really mattered I guess.

But you know what I never did?

I never compared what happened to me to what Jesus went through.

So I just hope anyone reading this right here remembers this post right here when they accuse Democrats or the left of creating a "culture of victimhood" or relying on feelings instead of facts.

Come the first day of a post-Trump White House...

Republicans will be all "I never REALLY supported him" and "Come on, nobody REALLY believes that the President is chosen by God".

Isn't it exhausting to be like this? Isn't it taxing? To follow this madman down whatever dark path he desires?

Republicans, free yourselves of him now, today. You're going to pretend you never supported him the day when it is no longer convenient anyway, everyone knows that. Instead of simply following what's convenient, you should be the masters of what happens in your own lives and let that day be today.

"Ah, so *THAT* is what they mean by 'strong economy'!"

Since Russian trolls are omnipresent, do we do anything to counter-troll them?

A signature line like mine would be a start IMHO.

"Sergei Magnitsky's cause of death: Heart attack. No, fall on head. No, pancreatitis. No, abdominal rupture. No, Bill Browder did it. No, self-inflicted."

Why do we need to start counter-trolling them?

I see this in many places, I'm calling the whole internet out, all sides, all factions. When someone makes an unorthodox argument, says something that defies social conventions, or says something perceived to be shocking or deviant... they get called a Russian troll or an agent of Putin trying to divide us. This should have become a dead horse when I saw a defender of Michael Flynn saying it, saying that people supporting accountability for Flynn are just doing Putin's work, but no, this circumstantial ad hominem or ad fontem argument is still with us. So let's not call someone a Russian troll just because we don't like what the other person is saying.

Also, the need to counter-troll them does not ignore or exclude the reality that Russians are indeed manipulating our political system. And if they are engaging with us, then maybe we can engage back with them. It's funny, we're supposed to somehow convince Republicans who subscribe to conspiracy theories about Pizzagate and QAnon and believe Democrats are now "socialist" and "socialist" now means valuing human lives over confederate statues or not wanting to get shot in school to vote for us in 2020. If we CAN convince those people to vote for us, then I'm pretty sure we can convince some Russian trolls to become assets against Putin as well.

So instead of just saying Russian trolls are around every e-corner and the source of every opinion you don't like, what are you doing to counter their influence or even turn them into activists against Putin?

I'm starting to wonder *why* Russian trolls are treated as the Anti-Civility

Today I've learned that:
Russian trolls are making conservative Christians look like fools in the eyes of liberals
Russian trolls are sending uplifting tweets

This isn't about the Russian government, which I believe is an illegitimate terrorist regime, this is about those Russian trolls. When Russian trolls get exposed, they get scrubbed from the Internet and they appear somewhere else, and I'm starting to think it's kind of disappointing we can't engage them.

We treat them as the very anathema of civil dialogue and civil discourse, I'm not so sure they are though. Are they really that different from other actors?

I mean, we're supposed to hold hands with people who think liberalism is not legitimate... that it's a creation of the Je- George Soros. That it results from school indoctrination. We're supposed to somehow convince people who believe in QAnon/Pizzagate conspiracy theories to vote for Democrats. We're supposed to give warm fuzzy feelings to people who think America in 2019 is awful and think America in the 1950s... or the 1860s if you're a Roy Moore voter... was awesome. We're supposed to have "understanding" for people who tell immigrants "if you don't like it, you can leave" but shrug their shoulders when they encounter people who say the wrong side won the civil war.

In short: If we CAN actually convince those people on the other side of the aisle to give up their hate and vote for us, right, then what is stopping us from convincing Russian trolls to turn against the Putinist regime? And if we can't, aren't we just excusing the irrationality and "own the libs" mentality of today's right, blaming Russians, when really, it's just all them? Why are we doing that then? How would that benefit us?

Trump: Am I out of touch? Am I dividing the country?



Trump: Could I be dividing the country when I got my political career started on birther conspiracy theories, when I demonized Muslim Americans, when my guys said "lock her up!", when I said the media that put a check on my power was 'fake news', when I said there were fine people on "both sides" with one of those sides being Neo-Nazis, when I couldn't even denounce white nationalist terrorism, when I sided with Russia over my country's own intelligence agencies, when people repeating my rhetoric are shooting up synagogues and malls, or when my party lost the 2018 election and I blamed it on people changing their shirts and voting again?

Trump: ...

Trump: No, it's the investigations into me that are dividing the country.
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