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I've seen it with my own eyes!

And it's always people who were very conservative to begin with. No one has been "converted" or anything. It's just a steady drip-drip-drip reinforcing beliefs they already had, but magnifying them with the outrage meter turned up to 11. On Fox News, they repeat the same talking points over and over and over again, until it becomes deafening. It's no longer enough for them that Democrats have different political opinions. They are now telling their viewers that Democrats are evil, and are the enemy of America.

I really, truly think that most people, deep down, think there is a law out there somewhere that says that "news" programs are not allowed to blatantly lie. I've actually heard people say a version of "if it wasn't true, they wouldn't be allowed to say it." They have no idea that Fox News is an entertainment network masquerading as a news network. All those bobbleheads on Fox and Friends, along with Tucker and Hannity, are actors on a set. It's the same with people who blindly share memes on Facebook all day long that are, at worst, blatantly false, or at best a stretch of a grain of truth.

Sometimes it's so depressing, I feel like giving up. You can't reason with the true believers. I've gotten into comment flame wars with people who insist that the Republican Party is the party of civil rights, or who are convinced that Obama kept kids in cages. Or the latest one I've seen, that we could have built the wall with all that money that Obama sent to Iran.

However, there are some who CAN be reached, even if it's just planting a seed in their heads. I have one co-worker who would seem to be a typical MAGA voter. She's 68, Baptist, and was married to a Baptist preacher before he died last year. She is your typical Southern preacher's wife, but she absolutely despises Trump and thinks he's the biggest hypocrite who's ever lived. So there is a little hope here and there!

So what's the best way to respond to this?

We've all seen this on social media, I'm sure: an article, tweet, or post about Trump's cavalier dismissal of receiving information from foreign governments or agents, and someone inevitably replies "But Hillary's campaign got help from a foreigner - Christopher Steele!!1!1!!'"

What's the best way to deflate that line of thinking? By pointing out that Steele is British, so he doesn't represent a hostile foreign government? By saying that Steele was paid, first by Republicans and then by Democrats, and that's not the same as foreigners offering information in return for something later on? By saying that Steele was an intelligence agent who had investigated many things in the past, and he didn't have his own agenda?

I know that the hardcore Trumpers won't listen to reason, but we have to push back, lest that line enters the popular consciousness as just another "both sides do it" alternative fact.....

North Carolina Early Voting

Early voting in NC started on Wednesday, October 17, and continues through this Saturday, November 3. This year, there is no "marquee" race at the top of the ticket - we don't have a US Senate race or Governor's race this year.

As of yesterday evening, there have been 1,493,455 people who have voted early in NC! I think that is a great number considering that we don't have a marquee race. To compare, in the 2014 cycle there were 1,097,880 who voted early! So, with three days left we have already surpassed the 2014 total by almost 400,000 people.

Here's hoping for the blue tsunami!!

What is the Trump campaign even DOING?

Maybe my memory is fading, but it seems like in 2008 and 2012 the political ads were all over the TV all summer long. I have seen a few Hillary ads here in NC (mostly on cable channels so I assume they're national ads), but I don't think I have seen a single ad for Trump! Is he even doing them? I can't even imagine what a "positive" Trump ad would look like.

Does he think he can run a campaign-by-Twitter or by just appearing on Fox News where the only people who see him would have voted for him anyway? In this modern world of the endless campaign cycle, doesn't he have any political consultants? I just don't get it!

On the other hand, I kinda like turning on the TV and not being subjected to endless campaign ads. In 2014 there were endless Hagan/Tillis ads all over the place, but I don't think I've seen any Richard Burr ads either! Is it still too early for those?

This whole campaign cycle has been so weird. Seems like the Republicans are trying to go through the campaign season without even mentioning the name of their presidential candidate. Not that I blame them, but still - it's so strange!
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